t viruz: Z,RIB,Del spiritual descernment I was going through John the first 3 chapters and saw a few things that God showed me which I wanna share with you Jhn 3:30
He must increase, but I must decrease.Thats one of the verses that spoke to me I remembered the 90/10 rule 10% of the ppl make 90% of the profits and visa versa God wants 10% tithes the 90 u can blow all u want but as well were John3:30 comes in 90% increase in Christ 10% in me.The fruits of the Spirit 90% increase 10% flesh even bettr no flesh but thats impossible cuse we are still dragging the rotten corpse.If we can just decrease that spiritual descernment will come naturally I just keep seeing that in my mind hmmmmm whats your guys take on it?If God shows you something in scripture I would like to learn.Z u are right bout when reading the Bible it seems to come back to one place or should I say One Man JESUS CHRIST from OT to NT I would put my head on the block and say that every book in the Bible points towards Him our Lord JESUS CHRIST.Oh and really ppl must be blind not to see that JESUS the WORD is God I mean look at (Jhn 2:24
But Jesus did not commit himself unto them, because he knew all men,Jhn 2:25
And needed not that any should testify of man: for he knew what was in man.)the all knowing God???knowing all men past present and still to come,even this verse (Jhn 3:13
And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven) I mean Jesus speaking past tense then as He speaks saying that He is in Heaven as he is stand there and then u must be blind not to see He is God but amen to the brethren that do see it let us not be like (Jhn 3:19
And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.)RIB theres the heart issue oh well just wanted to share that with u guys tell me u'r take on it.
God bless my prayers are with you just keep looking towards the North keep your compass fixated on Christ and lets not grieve the Holy Spirit TRINITY right there.
DeLighted1: thanks for the verses, total agreement tv. we really need to examine ourselves in the light of the Word. I pray we all find truth, healing and restoration.
God bless you tv, dearest bro; He's with you all the time
John 2:24 But Jesus did not commit himself unto them, because he knew all men, John 2:25 And needed not that any should testify of man: for he knew what was in man.
John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven
John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
Cenababy: If I may I can perhaps tell you why your room has been dead for two days! STOP banning and suspending people for having a different way about them 2) stop alienating people 3) stop being bigots 4) I have heard all the gossip and finally stop allowing mods to mod your room that are ego and suspending trigger freaks! Just a suggestion from one who has heard the gossip around wire!
ALL CHRISTIANS word and think differently, and when you start a freanzy about either talk and walk like us or else, this is exactly what you get! j/s :shrugs:
t viruz: hmmmm very intersting coming from someone who believes in gay marriages and not the Word of God we are to have one mind a Christ mind not opinion or do u think this one is right or wrong what about Jesus what does he think and unity will only come if we submitt unto the Holy Spirit in doctrine and Christ like mind so we can please the Father.Oh by the way gay is an abomination unto God.Lev 20:13
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.I wonder who grieves God on their beliefs.Z,R i'm with u all the way as long as we walk in the faith and King James Bible with a good Jesus Christ foundation i'm with u guys.
Precious Pea in reply to Cenababy: Priscilla18one: I have terminal breast cancer.
I am 47 years old. I have three children. I was told there are lots of Christians on Wireclub. I came here hoping to visit w someone who can teach me the basics of getting saved so i can go to heaven.
I went to the religion room and watched the chat. Several times today, i have explained my situation, asking if somebody will help me. I was ignored every time.
Again, i don't claim to know much about the Bible, but i do know that people who genuinely believe in Jesus love to share him with others - even more so when the person seeking is soon to be facing death.
Cenababy, as you go through your life, don't worry that you blew somebody off in favor of endless arguing in a chatroom and may have sent them into eternal damnation.
You may be the most glaring example of a hypocrite I have ever seen.
I WILL find a genuine Christian who genuinely cares about others. I WILL learn what I need to do to become a Christian. Its people like you who drove me away in the first place.
Caring about others, as i recall, is an important concept in Christianity. Even i know that.
The better-than-thou Cenababy seems to have missed that little detail.
mindlessselfindulge: I'll have to unadd you. I am not blind to not see these foolish religious things. I cannot be friends with someone who regards all people who sees things differently to be less than you and people of your faith.
Precious Pea in reply to mindlessselfindulge: Who are u talking to
I already have u blocked @mindlessfindulge... and there would have been a good reason for it too... hmmm... t viruz, myself and Z do NOT believe in any Religion, NOR do we follow one hmmm sooo...
you MUST be referring to Cenababy
What if I told you, Jesus came to abolish religion? What if I told you getting you to vote republican, really wasn’t his mission?
Because republican doesn’t automatically mean Christian, And just because you call some people blind, doesn’t automatically give you vision.
If religion is so great, why has it started so many wars? Why does it build huge churches, but fails to feed the poor?
Tells single moms God doesn’t love them if they’ve ever been divorced Yet God in the Old Testament actually calls the religious people whores
Religion preaches grace, but another thing they practice, Tend to ridicule Gods people, they did it to John the Baptist,
Cant fix their problems, so they try to mask it, Not realizing that’s just like sprayin perfume on a casket
Because the problem with religion is that it never gets to the core, It’s just behavior modification, like a long list of chores.
Let’s dress up the outside, make things look nice and neat, Its funny that’s what they do to mummies, while the corpse rots underneath,
Now I ain’t judging I’m just saying be careful of putting on a fake look, Because there’s a problem if people only know that you’re a Christian by that little section on your facebook
In every other aspect of life you know that logics unworthy Its like saying you play for the lakers just because you bought a jersey
But see I played this game too; no one seemed to be on to me, I was acting like church kid, while addicted to pornography.
I’d go to church on Sunday, but on saturday getting faded, Acting as if I was simply created to have sex and get wasted.
Spend my whole life putting on this façade of neatness, But now that I know Jesus, I boast in my weakness.
If grace is water, then the church should be an ocean, Cuz its not a museum for good people, it’s a hospital for the broken
I no longer have to hide my failures I don’t have to hide my sin, Because my salvation doesn’t depend on me, it depends on him.
because when I was Gods enemy and certainly not a fan, God looked down on me and said, “I want that man!”
Which is so different from religious people, and why Jesus called em fools Don’t you see hes so much better than just following some rules?
Now let me clarify, I love the church, I love the bible, and I believe in sin But my question, is if Jesus were here today, would your church let Him in?
Remember He was called a drunkard and a glutton by “religious men” The Son of God not supported self-righteousness, not now, not then.
Now back to the topic, one thing I think is vital to mention, How Jesus and religion are on opposite spectrums,
One is the work of God one is a man made invention, One is the cure and one is the infection.
Because Religion says do, Jesus says done. Religion says slave, Jesus says son,
Religion puts you in shackles but Jesus sets you free. Religion makes you blind, but Jesus lets you see.
This is what makes religion and Jesus two different clans, Religion is man searching for God, but Christianity is God searching for man.
Which is why salvation is freely mine, forgiveness is my own, Not based on my efforts, but Christ’s obedience alone.
Because he took the crown of thorns, and blood that dripped down his face He took what we all deserved, that’s why we call it grace.
While being murdered he yelled “father forgive them, they know not what they do”, Because when he was dangling on that cross, he was thinking of you
He paid for all your sin, and then buried it in the tomb, Which is why im kneeling at the cross now saying come on there’s room
So know I hate religion, in fact I literally resent it, Because when Jesus cried It is finished, I believe He meant it.
Cenababy: T=were you speaking to me? How do you know what I believe? I have not stated what I believe, and I also only go into religion room when the regulars aren't here! I have also never stated I am for gay marriage so, I know that wasn't directed at me, right!
I allow anyone in my room who wants to discuss, I don't simply kick people out because they don't say a sentence as I do, is the point......And all Christians should have a bond of unity. I am not one who goes into rooms and spews hate and damnation on anyone, I discuss and share!!! It is Christians who only blast in a room and spit hate on everyone that I have a problem with! My Walk and Delivery is mine, PER JESUS tyvm....anyone is welcome to there opinion!
Cenababy: Missing you go ahead, go find a christian that wan'ts to spew hate just as much as you do......that's fine by me, but not by God. People that want to judge and put their tippy toes in God's shoes, shall regret that. I am not God, far from it, a mere peon learning her way just as others, but I don't go iinto rooms, and not discuss *(per wires rules) and only make statement after statement about how horrid people are, tell them they are all going to hell, spew rude insults at them. that is your walk, not mine! I walk differently and so I shouldl...would you like to see what Jesus has to say about that?
The Weak and The Strong
Romans:
ACCEPT HIM whose faith is weak, without passing judgement on disputable matters! amen
One man's faith allows him to eat everything, but another man, whose faith is weak eats only vegetables. The man who eats everything must not look down on him who does not, and the man who does not eat everything must not condemn the man who does, for GOD has accepted him!
WOW, what a statement, I think most Christian's leave this behind. Again, I think it is all up to Jesus /God who shows mercy and who decides! We have to be very careful, why? Because we do not know each other's hearts!
"who are you to judge someone else's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand" AMEN AND AMEN!!!!!!
my above point exactly: who are we to judge and condemn, we/I, " AM NOT JESUS"...
"Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living". You then, why do you judge your brother? or why do you look down on your brother? For we will all stand before God's judgment seat.
Very interesting, and who judges us? JESUS See to me, it is what Jesus says and thinks, if he shows us mercy or loves us or not, HE IS the final authority, only he knows us truly.
"As surely as I live, says the Lord (Jesus) every knee will bow before me; every tongue will confess to God".
again pretty amazing statement coming from Jesus, what do you think this means? I know what it means for me....and people say nay!
Cenababy: and as I was not nasty with anyone, and T you can unfriend me if you wish.....when we die, we will face Jesus, and he will ask us, WHY were you unkind, why did you spew hate, and weave horrid webs OR WILL HE, does he know your heart Missing? You DO NOT know me or my heart, I have not thrown hate and slurs at you, but you ALWAYS throw them my way....well off on your path...wish you luck
Precious Pea in reply to Cenababy: Matthew 7:4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
Matthew 7:5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
Matthew 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
1Co 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
AND by the way... it was Priscilla that posted that... I just COPIED it from her PROFILE You didn't read the comment accurately all you've DONE is come on Viruz's page with your and spew your
Let me copy and paste it again Cause you didn't GET it the first time
Again, i don't claim to know much about the Bible, but i do know that people who genuinely believe in Jesus love to share him with others - even more so when the person seeking is soon to be facing death. Cenababy, as you go through your life, don't worry that you blew somebody off in favor of endless arguing in a chatroom and may have sent them into eternal damnation. You may be the most glaring example of a hypocrite I have ever seen. I WILL find a genuine Christian who genuinely cares about others. I WILL learn what I need to do to become a Christian. Its people like you who drove me away in the first place. Caring about others, as i recall, is an important concept in Christianity. Even i know that. The better-than-thou Cenababy seems to have missed that little detail.
The rooms been dead for 2 days because people with no faith come, they are either dead in their works and without faith or are perishing and in need of revival. We DON'T really care who comes or WHO doesn't. It depends WHO stays which is WHAT counts... THOSE who endure to the END will be saved.
Mark 13:13 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
It doesn't matter HOW many come.
That POST that Zombie wrote was NOT directed at you @Cena so I don't understand why you even think you have a say on the matter? but you come on V's page as though you have some authority about someone else's rooms?
What matters is WHO receives the Word and LISTENS to what the Spirit of the Lord is teaching.
Isa 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.
I dunno WHICH specific room you speak off @Cena but IT doesn't concern us what happens in other rooms... IT does not come down to numbers... We are quite happy fellowshipping with 2 SHEEP than 20 goats
Mat 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
Also, what IS your point? To make a point that YOUR room is the better room out of everyone's because you allow ALL opinions and views and compromise? AND you get more numbers than anyone else because you DO NOT ban or suspend anyone, because you allow the OPINIONS of man to rule your room?
What's with the gloating?
ALSO who are you TO tell us HOW to run a room? Are u the owner?
IF we need to BAN someone, then THAT is our business. We can account for everyone of our bans and suspensions IF someone gets suspended, THAT too is our business, within godly reasons and boundaries. Everything DONE decently and in order. They are ALWAYS welcome to come back and apologise
People get suspended for all sorts of reasons and warnings are always given. A suspension is only 4 hours, they can come back for round 2 LOL. Private rooms have that freedom to bounce and ban whomever they see deemed as abusive. It is UP to the discretion of the room owner and the hosts. NONE of your business REALLY, except that you CAME on “t viruz” page to start an argument and spew your hate with insults
I'd like to address POINT 1 and 4
1) STOP banning and suspending people for having a different way about them 4) I have heard all the gossip and finally stop allowing mods to mod your room that are ego and suspending trigger freaks!
Firstly WE do NOT go to your room, so why WOULD we want to MOD anyone that MODS in your room? Second, WHICH mods are you speaking about in particular that you seem to believe have been asked to mod from your room in our room? OOOH u mean EMMET? he came out of another room, not ours We do not even know who MODS or lurks in your room. EVEN if we did go to your room WE would NOT host anyone as a MOD that COMES out of your room either
Which brings me to this
What fellowship is there with compromise, snakes, lizzards, wolves and goats? NONE
Secondly, WHO have you banned and suspended that has come out of your room? Which ROOM do you speak about? There are MANY rooms in Wire that people get suspended and banned from.
WHY make a WAR about it?
I am sure the bans and the suspensions were well deserved and legitimate Considering how many rude people troll. AND they were NOT suspended because they begged to differ??? We do NOT senselessly bounce people OUT for no reason, LEAST of all for disagreeing. Trigger happy eh lol YEA we are when we get rid of someone that is devouring the sheep
Are you meaning a different room? We do NOT engage in STRIFE, discord, listen to tattle-talers, bickering, back-biting and divisive talk it's hearsay and an ABOMINATION to GOD.
Pro 11:13 A gossip betrays a confidence, but a trustworthy person keeps a secret. Pro 16:28 A perverse person stirs up conflict, and a gossip separates close friends. Pro 12:22 Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal trulyare his delight.
@Cena, if gossip IS the basis of your defense, then you are sadly not listening to the truth. GOSSIP is more important to you than obeying the Word. You are NO different to the one spreading it. Also, we cannot account for things which are NOT our issue that have COME out of other rooms Especially, IF those bans and suspensions have nothing to do with us
LIKE please, IF u are going to throw rocks at us... make sure you take the BIG fat MOTE out of your own eye and check that YOU are in the truth
IF we ban people it's because they were speaking profanely and were disruptive, not THAT we have to explain any of this to YOU. IF they were suspended... IT would have been because they were trolling and were a repeated offender, who already had a reputation. HOW we moderate a ROOM is our business. WE do not NEED to justify ANY of this to you.
But since you bring it up, LET me raise some things with you
2) Alienating people? Hmm wonder whom you mean Alienating from what? Any specifics or you JUST like making blanket statements?
3) BIGOTS... hmmm!! JESUS never tolerated SIN or LIES... why should we Are we NOT to follow AFTER Jesus's example? Are u calling Him a bigot too for NOT being tolerant of sin? JESUS was called many things. He called the Religious Pharasees WHITE WASHED TOMBS and BROOD of VIPERS!!!
4) EGO? WHO has an ego? OOOH the ONE who is gloating about how they NEVER bounce, ban or suspend anyone from their room. AND the opinions of MEN are more important than the truth
Here is my SUGGESTION...
1 Thessalonians 4:11 And that ye study to be quiet, and to do your own business, and to work with your own hands, as we commanded you;
1 Thessalonians 4:12 That ye may walk honestly toward them that are without, and that ye may have lack of nothing.
1 Thessalonians 4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. ..
PERHAPS you should TAKE the Words of JESUS and listen to his voice.
It would have been better for you to MIND your own business. JUST a suggestion from ONE who witnessed a lady turn up to one of OUR rooms yesterday, AFTER you BLEW her away, because the conversation YOU were having in the RELIGION room was MORE important, than praying with her.
She was desperate to talk with someone who would be willing to pray with her and show her HOW to give her LIFE to JESUS and get HER life RIGHT with GOD. You were more interested in arguing in the RELIGION room than giving her the time of DAY. That LADY's name was “Priscilla”, who asked for prayer and you ignored her.
Here is a copy of that conversation which Priscilla POSTED on her profile You can SEE it for yourself
Oh, i was waiting for you to pray with me. I thought we were going to pray?
No, I am quiet and concentrate when I pray..it is to him
I'm sorry. i misunderstood you. You don't want to pray with me?
oh, I will pray later, when I am being quiet
Ok, i am sorry to bother you
no bother
TAKE NOTE Some suggestions for you from her...
Priscilla18one: I have terminal breast cancer.
I am 47 years old. I have three children. I was told there are lots of Christians on Wireclub. I came here hoping to visit w someone who can teach me the basics of getting saved so i can go to heaven.
I went to the religion room and watched the chat. Several times today, i have explained my situation, asking if somebody will help me. I was ignored every time.
Again, i don't claim to know much about the Bible, but i do know that people who genuinely believe in Jesus love to share him with others - even more so when the person seeking is soon to be facing death.
CENABABY, as you go through your life, don't worry that you blew somebody off in favor of endless arguing in a chatroom and may have sent them into eternal damnation.
You may be the most glaring example of a hypocrite I have ever seen.
I WILL find a genuine Christian who genuinely cares about others. I WILL learn what I need to do to become a Christian. Its people like you who drove me away in the first place.
Caring about others, as i recall, is an important concept in Christianity. Even i know that.
The better-than-thou CENABABY seems to have missed that little detail.
Lastly
FRENZY? What FRENZY may I ask? A frenzy about what?
ALL CHRISTIANS?? Who are Christians? We don't point you to talk or walk like us... we POINT everyone to JESUS and what JESUS says on a matter... Do you have an issue with the way JESUS spoke and walked?
EXACTLY what do we get? Ooh you mean a quite room PRAISE the LORD
WHAT are you saying? OOOH, I hear what you are saying, You're JUST spewing your opinion, with no REAL evidence to back anything you've said
Disco Sheep: ok, well my room has been dead cause i have been busy else where, secondly, trolls and false teachers will get kicked and maybe banned, get used to it. secondly your room is dead cause u dont stand for the truth, thanks for the remarks and i have no idea who you are and to be honest i really dont care
Precious Pea in reply to Precious Pea: @Cenababy....
bigot 1. a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.
Just for the record JESUS did NOT tolerate anything that would put a millstone around someone's neck...
Mar 9:42 And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.
Jesus never promoted opinion, he SPOKE the truth, HE obeyed his FATHER, JESUS was NOT swayed by the opinions OF men.
Disco Sheep: Cenababy you really need to take the issue to tims room, send ye messages to one of his mods, not that he hasnt heard it before, your really just got ye wires crossed, we aint got anything to do with tims room nor do we agree with what he does and were mostly banned from his room anyways sooooo...... ye, intresting u noticed the errors and really getting enough crap as it is ...............thx.
Cenababy: and how do you know I haven't taken it to them? See, I made an innocent comment on T's profile as to why rooms here are dead, and people automatically jump on me, yes Tim's room has a hug problem, I was merely suggesting that people watch their tongues on here if they don't want an empty room.....Didn't bash anyone, and yet, look at all the responses I have gotten (albeit, mostly from Ribs), perfect example of how she acts in the Religion room, although, I must say I have her blocked in there, but JUST by the comments and the pm's I get when she is in there, WHOAAAA...A Christian is suppose to be understanding, walk meekly, humble themselves, (not that we do all the time, I admit, lol) but, they are not to go into other rooms and spew hate, spam sentence after sentence about how people are horrid and all going to hell, etc., this is not a graceful walk....It is interesting how I got jumped on, very interesting, and wonder why that is, when no one in your room including yourself, even knows me! I think we should all take a sit down and wonder why people act the way they do! I myself, will post all of this on my profile and see what others have to say, If I am called out, then I will kneel down! Have a good day!
Cenababy: and Missing, good grief, ALL OF THIS to just tell me something? and recapping my PM my PRIVATE PM for everyone to see, AND DID YOU COPY THE RELIGION ROOM AS WELL to see that I spoke to her in there, and DO YOU not realize that I have been here for quite a while, and her opening line, was of troll standards in the religion room, DO YOU KNOW MY INTENT or are you just being a back stabbing human being, MY COMMENT was to T VIRUZ, NOT YOU, hmmmm trolls (people who perhaps copy pm's to set people up)????? GET IT?
My, my now that was a personal attack, SHAME ON YOU!
Cenababy: ps DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MANY TROLLS WE HAVE DEALT WITH, SHE IS A BRAND NEW PERSON, NO IDENTITY, COMES "ON LINE" FOR WHAT THE FIRST TIME, COMES IN A ROOM WITH WHAT SHE SAID, AND PEOPLE ARE SUPPOSE TO JUST THINK, WHY COME ON LINE AND TALK THAT PERSONAL IN HERE, WHEN NO ONE KNOWS HER????? I SUGGESTED TO HER BEFORE THE PM TO FIND A "CHRISTIAN ROOM" BUT GUESS YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT!
Cenababy: AND I DON"T KNOW HER NOR HER PAGE, LOOK AT THE THEATRICS with your verses LOL...good show....good show...I will now leave you alone, and report you POSTING PRIVATE STUFF IN PUBLIC, good job...hope you win a lot to your corner!
1Ti 1:10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and ALL LIARS, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Disco Sheep: Cenababy V isn't a mod in anyroom nor does he run any rooms, I do...... if you got an issue, you could of messaged me about it, it sounds like u got my room and tims room mixed up but what ever. you need to apologise to T virus for accusing him of crimes he has not commited nor has he had anything to di with any decisions, the descissions are made me mr zom.... me....got a problem message me THANKYOU!
Ephesians 4:29 Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.
Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
Ephesians 4:31 Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:
Ephesians 4:32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.
Ephesians 5:1 Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;
Ephesians 5:2 And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.
He must increase, but I must decrease.Thats one of the verses that spoke to me I remembered the 90/10 rule 10% of the ppl make 90% of the profits and visa versa God wants 10% tithes the 90 u can blow all u want but as well were John3:30 comes in 90% increase in Christ 10% in me.The fruits of the Spirit 90% increase 10% flesh even bettr no flesh but thats impossible cuse we are still dragging the rotten corpse.If we can just decrease that spiritual descernment will come naturally I just keep seeing that in my mind hmmmmm whats your guys take on it?If God shows you something in scripture I would like to learn.Z u are right bout when reading the Bible it seems to come back to one place or should I say One Man JESUS CHRIST from OT to NT I would put my head on the block and say that every book in the Bible points towards Him our Lord JESUS CHRIST.Oh and really ppl must be blind not to see that JESUS the WORD is God I mean look at (Jhn 2:24
But Jesus did not commit himself unto them, because he knew all men,Jhn 2:25
And needed not that any should testify of man: for he knew what was in man.)the all knowing God???knowing all men past present and still to come,even this verse (Jhn 3:13
And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven) I mean Jesus speaking past tense then as He speaks saying that He is in Heaven as he is stand there and then u must be blind not to see He is God but amen to the brethren that do see it let us not be like (Jhn 3:19
And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.)RIB
God bless my prayers are with you just keep looking towards the North keep your compass fixated on Christ and lets not grieve the Holy Spirit
God bless you tv, dearest bro; He's with you all the time
John 3:30 He must increase but I must decrease.
John 2:24 But Jesus did not commit himself unto them, because he knew all men,
John 2:25 And needed not that any should testify of man: for he knew what was in man.
John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven
John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
ALL CHRISTIANS word and think differently, and when you start a freanzy about either talk and walk like us or else, this is exactly what you get! j/s :shrugs:
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.I wonder who grieves God on their beliefs.Z,R i'm with u all the way as long as we walk in the faith and King James Bible with a good Jesus Christ foundation i'm with u guys.
I am 47 years old. I have three children. I was told there are lots of Christians on Wireclub. I came here hoping to visit w someone who can teach me the basics of getting saved so i can go to heaven.
I went to the religion room and watched the chat. Several times today, i have explained my situation, asking if somebody will help me. I was ignored every time.
Again, i don't claim to know much about the Bible, but i do know that people who genuinely believe in Jesus love to share him with others - even more so when the person seeking is soon to be facing death.
Cenababy, as you go through your life, don't worry that you blew somebody off in favor of endless arguing in a chatroom and may have sent them into eternal damnation.
You may be the most glaring example of a hypocrite I have ever seen.
I WILL find a genuine Christian who genuinely cares about others. I WILL learn what I need to do to become a Christian. Its people like you who drove me away in the first place.
Caring about others, as i recall, is an important concept in Christianity. Even i know that.
The better-than-thou Cenababy seems to have missed that little detail.
I already have u blocked @mindlessfindulge... and there would have been a good reason for it too... hmmm... t viruz, myself and Z do NOT believe in any Religion, NOR do we follow one hmmm sooo...
you MUST be referring to Cenababy
What if I told you, Jesus came to abolish religion?
What if I told you getting you to vote republican, really wasn’t his mission?
Because republican doesn’t automatically mean Christian,
And just because you call some people blind, doesn’t automatically give you vision.
If religion is so great, why has it started so many wars?
Why does it build huge churches, but fails to feed the poor?
Tells single moms God doesn’t love them if they’ve ever been divorced
Yet God in the Old Testament actually calls the religious people whores
Religion preaches grace, but another thing they practice,
Tend to ridicule Gods people, they did it to John the Baptist,
Cant fix their problems, so they try to mask it,
Not realizing that’s just like sprayin perfume on a casket
Because the problem with religion is that it never gets to the core,
It’s just behavior modification, like a long list of chores.
Let’s dress up the outside, make things look nice and neat,
Its funny that’s what they do to mummies, while the corpse rots underneath,
Now I ain’t judging I’m just saying be careful of putting on a fake look,
Because there’s a problem if people only know that you’re a Christian by that little section on your facebook
In every other aspect of life you know that logics unworthy
Its like saying you play for the lakers just because you bought a jersey
But see I played this game too; no one seemed to be on to me,
I was acting like church kid, while addicted to pornography.
I’d go to church on Sunday, but on saturday getting faded,
Acting as if I was simply created to have sex and get wasted.
Spend my whole life putting on this façade of neatness,
But now that I know Jesus, I boast in my weakness.
If grace is water, then the church should be an ocean,
Cuz its not a museum for good people, it’s a hospital for the broken
I no longer have to hide my failures I don’t have to hide my sin,
Because my salvation doesn’t depend on me, it depends on him.
because when I was Gods enemy and certainly not a fan,
God looked down on me and said, “I want that man!”
Which is so different from religious people, and why Jesus called em fools
Don’t you see hes so much better than just following some rules?
Now let me clarify, I love the church, I love the bible, and I believe in sin
But my question, is if Jesus were here today, would your church let Him in?
Remember He was called a drunkard and a glutton by “religious men”
The Son of God not supported self-righteousness, not now, not then.
Now back to the topic, one thing I think is vital to mention,
How Jesus and religion are on opposite spectrums,
One is the work of God one is a man made invention,
One is the cure and one is the infection.
Because Religion says do, Jesus says done.
Religion says slave, Jesus says son,
Religion puts you in shackles but Jesus sets you free.
Religion makes you blind, but Jesus lets you see.
This is what makes religion and Jesus two different clans,
Religion is man searching for God, but Christianity is God searching for man.
Which is why salvation is freely mine, forgiveness is my own,
Not based on my efforts, but Christ’s obedience alone.
Because he took the crown of thorns, and blood that dripped down his face
He took what we all deserved, that’s why we call it grace.
While being murdered he yelled “father forgive them, they know not what they do”,
Because when he was dangling on that cross, he was thinking of you
He paid for all your sin, and then buried it in the tomb,
Which is why im kneeling at the cross now saying come on there’s room
So know I hate religion, in fact I literally resent it,
Because when Jesus cried It is finished, I believe He meant it.
AMEN
I allow anyone in my room who wants to discuss, I don't simply kick people out because they don't say a sentence as I do, is the point......And all Christians should have a bond of unity. I am not one who goes into rooms and spews hate and damnation on anyone, I discuss and share!!! It is Christians who only blast in a room and spit hate on everyone that I have a problem with! My Walk and Delivery is mine, PER JESUS tyvm....anyone is welcome to there opinion!
The Weak and The Strong
Romans:
ACCEPT HIM whose faith is weak, without passing judgement on disputable matters! amen
One man's faith allows him to eat everything, but another man, whose faith is weak eats only vegetables. The man who eats everything must not look down on him who does not, and the man who does not eat everything must not condemn the man who does, for GOD has accepted him!
WOW, what a statement, I think most Christian's leave this behind. Again, I think it is all up to Jesus /God who shows mercy and who decides! We have to be very careful, why? Because we do not know each other's hearts!
"who are you to judge someone else's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand"
AMEN AND AMEN!!!!!!
my above point exactly: who are we to judge and condemn, we/I, " AM NOT JESUS"...
"Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living". You then, why do you judge your brother? or why do you look down on your brother? For we will all stand before God's judgment seat.
Very interesting, and who judges us? JESUS See to me, it is what Jesus says and thinks, if he shows us mercy or loves us or not, HE IS the final authority, only he knows us truly.
"As surely as I live, says the Lord (Jesus) every knee will bow before me; every tongue will confess to God".
again pretty amazing statement coming from Jesus, what do you think this means? I know what it means for me....and people say nay!
Matthew 7:5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
Matthew 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
1Co 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
AND by the way... it was Priscilla that posted that... I just COPIED it from her PROFILE
Let me copy and paste it again
priscilla18one
Priscilla18one: I have terminal breast cancer.
Again, i don't claim to know much about the Bible, but i do know that people who genuinely believe in Jesus love to share him with others - even more so when the person seeking is soon to be facing death. Cenababy, as you go through your life, don't worry that you blew somebody off in favor of endless arguing in a chatroom and may have sent them into eternal damnation. You may be the most glaring example of a hypocrite I have ever seen. I WILL find a genuine Christian who genuinely cares about others. I WILL learn what I need to do to become a Christian. Its people like you who drove me away in the first place. Caring about others, as i recall, is an important concept in Christianity. Even i know that. The better-than-thou Cenababy seems to have missed that little detail.
The rooms been dead for 2 days because people with no faith come, they are either dead in their works and without faith or are perishing and in need of revival. We DON'T really care who comes or WHO doesn't. It depends WHO stays which is WHAT counts... THOSE who endure to the END will be saved.
Mark 13:13 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
It doesn't matter HOW many come.
That POST that Zombie wrote was NOT directed at you @Cena
What matters is WHO receives the Word and LISTENS to what the Spirit of the Lord is teaching.
Isa 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.
I dunno WHICH specific room you speak off @Cena
Mat 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
Also, what IS your point? To make a point that YOUR room is the better room out of everyone's because you allow ALL opinions and views and compromise?
What's with the gloating?
ALSO who are you TO tell us HOW to run a room?
IF we need to BAN someone, then THAT is our business. We can account for everyone of our bans and suspensions
People get suspended for all sorts of reasons and warnings are always given. A suspension is only 4 hours, they can come back for round 2 LOL. Private rooms have that freedom to bounce and ban whomever they see deemed as abusive. It is UP to the discretion of the room owner and the hosts. NONE of your business REALLY, except that you CAME on “t viruz” page to start an argument and spew your hate with insults
I'd like to address POINT 1 and 4
1) STOP banning and suspending people for having a different way about them
4) I have heard all the gossip and finally stop allowing mods to mod your room that are ego and suspending trigger freaks!
Firstly WE do NOT go to your room, so why WOULD we want to MOD anyone that MODS in your room?
Which brings me to this
What fellowship is there with compromise, snakes, lizzards, wolves and goats?
Secondly, WHO have you banned and suspended that has come out of your room?
WHY make a WAR about it?
I am sure the bans and the suspensions were well deserved and legitimate
Are you meaning a different room?
Pro 11:13 A gossip betrays a confidence, but a trustworthy person keeps a secret.
Pro 16:28 A perverse person stirs up conflict, and a gossip separates close friends.
Pro 12:22 Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal trulyare his delight.
@Cena, if gossip IS the basis of your defense, then you are sadly not listening to the truth. GOSSIP is more important to you than obeying the Word. You are NO different to the one spreading it. Also, we cannot account for things which are NOT our issue that have COME out of other rooms
LIKE please, IF u are going to throw rocks at us... make sure you take the BIG fat MOTE out of your own eye and check that YOU are in the truth
IF we ban people it's because they were speaking profanely and were disruptive, not THAT we have to explain any of this to YOU. IF they were suspended... IT would have been because they were trolling and were a repeated offender, who already had a reputation. HOW we moderate a ROOM is our business. WE do not NEED to justify ANY of this to you.
But since you bring it up, LET me raise some things with you
2) Alienating people? Hmm wonder whom you mean
3) BIGOTS... hmmm!! JESUS never tolerated SIN or LIES... why should we
4) EGO?
Here is my SUGGESTION...
1 Thessalonians 4:11 And that ye study to be quiet, and to do your own business, and to work with your own hands, as we commanded you;
1 Thessalonians 4:12 That ye may walk honestly toward them that are without, and that ye may have lack of nothing.
1 Thessalonians 4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. ..
PERHAPS you should TAKE the Words of JESUS and listen to his voice.
It would have been better for you to MIND your own business. JUST a suggestion from ONE who witnessed a lady turn up to one of OUR rooms yesterday, AFTER you BLEW her away, because the conversation YOU were having in the RELIGION room was MORE important, than praying with her.
She was desperate to talk with someone who would be willing to pray with her and show her HOW to give her LIFE to JESUS and get HER life RIGHT with GOD. You were more interested in arguing in the RELIGION room than giving her the time of DAY. That LADY's name was “Priscilla”, who asked for prayer and you ignored her.
Here is a copy of that conversation which Priscilla POSTED on her profile
priscilla18one
Do you pray Cena?
yes
Can you pray for me?
sure... I will
Thank you
Cena, are you still here?
Yes?
Are we not going to pray?
You pray to God
? ? I am confused.
About?
Oh, i was waiting for you to pray with me. I thought we were going to pray?
No, I am quiet and concentrate when I pray..it is to him
I'm sorry. i misunderstood you. You don't want to pray with me?
oh, I will pray later, when I am being quiet
Ok, i am sorry to bother you
no bother
TAKE NOTE Some suggestions for you from her...
Priscilla18one: I have terminal breast cancer.
I am 47 years old. I have three children. I was told there are lots of Christians on Wireclub. I came here hoping to visit w someone who can teach me the basics of getting saved so i can go to heaven.
I went to the religion room and watched the chat. Several times today, i have explained my situation, asking if somebody will help me. I was ignored every time.
Again, i don't claim to know much about the Bible, but i do know that people who genuinely believe in Jesus love to share him with others - even more so when the person seeking is soon to be facing death.
CENABABY, as you go through your life, don't worry that you blew somebody off in favor of endless arguing in a chatroom and may have sent them into eternal damnation.
You may be the most glaring example of a hypocrite I have ever seen.
I WILL find a genuine Christian who genuinely cares about others. I WILL learn what I need to do to become a Christian. Its people like you who drove me away in the first place.
Caring about others, as i recall, is an important concept in Christianity. Even i know that.
The better-than-thou CENABABY seems to have missed that little detail.
Lastly
FRENZY? What FRENZY may I ask?
ALL CHRISTIANS?? Who are Christians?
EXACTLY what do we get?
WHAT are you saying?
GOSSIP
bigot 1. a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.
Just for the record JESUS did NOT tolerate anything that would put a millstone around someone's neck...
Mar 9:42 And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.
Jesus never promoted opinion, he SPOKE the truth, HE obeyed his FATHER, JESUS was NOT swayed by the opinions OF men.
ye, intresting u noticed the errors and really getting enough crap as it is ...............thx.
My, my now that was a personal attack, SHAME ON YOU!
HYPOCRIT, YEAH WOW WHAT A CHRISTIAN CHEAP SHOT!
AND ya post is not innocent lol it's full of
Liars DON'T inherit the Kingdom of Heaven
priscilla18one
GO READ IT FOR YOURSELF instead of coming on here and spewing
John 17:13 And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves.
John 17:14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
John 17:15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.
John 17:16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
John 17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
IT was on her page
priscilla18one
GET your facts right
1Ti 1:10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and ALL LIARS, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
if you got an issue, you could of messaged me about it, it sounds like u got my room and tims room mixed up but what ever. you need to apologise to T virus for accusing him of crimes he has not commited nor has he had anything to di with any decisions, the descissions are made me mr zom.... me....got a problem message me THANKYOU!
Ephesians 4:29 Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.
Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
Ephesians 4:31 Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:
Ephesians 4:32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.
Ephesians 5:1 Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;
Ephesians 5:2 And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.