StillatThis: I have often been known (if only by myself) for saying anything that you all call music is crap. If it is written after 1990, with very few exceptions, it sucks. The pinnacle of music was written before the 20th century and (in America) the 1920's and 1970's went pretty well with in inventions of swing/dixieland/jazz and the seventies had some really good musicians from America but the British made everything work. I still say Pink Floyd FOREVER!!! Anyway... after that its all crap no mater what you call it (exception: "The Cherry Poppin Daddies" in the 90's) yet it still amazes me how all of you cheer and buy and promote the garbage foisted off on you nowadays. So here is my solution... ... listen to the songs from the movie "Aladdin" performed in about 8 minutes. ............Oh yeah, its only four men and no instruments, one source of REAL musical SKILL never heard, well... anywhere else.
StillatThis: words out of a person charliexjustle who spent 17 years playing piano and saxophone every week so just because you don't understand music theory and clever arrangements, well... I kinda laugh now. Tell me, how many beats in 3/4 time??? Hhmmmm...
Really PaleBurnedAcid ??? My favorite is the album "Animals" just for the ~60 minute/one song/ beautiful flow of the four melodies... like an Opera... four movements repeated yet transformed. Then "The Wall", "Wish You Were Here", "Meddle", followed lastly by "Dark Side..." But I love their music!
StillatThis in reply to charliexhustle: I responded to you on my post. If you were joking then all's good. But please understand, if you want to discuss music arrangement and such with me you better be good because I know music theory in my sleep. Not old, its just that today's crap sucks and I'm guessing you don't know enough about it all to realize it
charliexhustle: 3/4 indicates 3 beats where each 1/4 note gets a beat. I'm also familiar with modes, the circle of fifths, modern pro-audio techniques. I play guitar, bass, and piano, as well as teach kids music theory, and composition.
I listen to stuff that is newer than the 90s because im not stuck in my youth, waiting to die because times will never be as good as when i was 20. I understand and enjoy what younger people are doing creatively.
Maybe you should turn off the radio and look into something that isnt katie perry before you pass judgement.
StillatThis: Thats because you are already dead musically if you think anything today has something to offer that wasn't already performed and recorded TEN times better in the past. Is any "new" music even possible anymore..??.. and do you REALLY think that Britney Spears or that Bruno guy is better than Mozart??? If so, enough said.
StillatThis: Another thought... if every generation of "old people" all say that the new music is crap and the kids of that day laugh at them (who also grow up [maybe] to old people)... yet 96% of all music is forgotten after 1900 and almost 70% written before 1900 is still around? Doubt me, remember the song, "You Ain't Worth The Salt In My Tears"??? Who wrote and sung it? I could give a billion more examples but,
Do you remember how the final movement of the "William Tell Overture" sounds? [if needed, the theme song to "The Lone Ranger"]...... I rest my case.
charliexhustle in reply to StillatThis: brittany spears and bruno mars are top 40 pop. If thats your sampling of new music, then i understand why you hate it.
Tell me these guys have no chops and i'll know you're smoking crack for real:
Can any chord progression be written today that has never been written before? Can any Melody line be written that has never been written before? ...if either 1 or 2 from above is true can it still produce a truly original arrangement? ...if both 1 and 2 are true can it still produce a truly original arrangement? ...if both 1 and 2 are false (most likely) can it still produce a truly original arrangement?
I'm pretty sure that we can agree that it would be almost impossible to create a truly original song. Fine... so we go a new direction, pitch, volume, chord changes, expanding on the "rock opera" concept of a minor symphony with current instruments...
and what did we get? Rap, Hip Hop, Blonde girls with no talent, the halftime show of a Superbowl, or some complete idiot running up on stage talking about "Be-Yonce- Say thats a big butt, ugly woman, and bad singer" or was it that even more useless Rhianna thing? Whatever
StillatThis in reply to StillatThis: Shut it off after 3 seconds... aarrrgghhh hate it!!! Do you remember that I am a piano and saxophone player? If not all good but its still true. Never got past 3 seconds... my turn.
StillatThis: Thats basically it although Mozart is not my point-of-reference. What I mean is, only the best can take the old and make it new again yet what we have had over 15 years basically goes immediately to the dump bin.,
StillatThis: This one comes from my favorite album of all time. Written by Tim Rice and Andrew Webber... BUT ONLY FROM the ORIGINAL version of the three recordings. Jesus was song by the lead singer from "Deep Purple" and Judas was song by "Murray Head" (One Night in Bangkok" if you remember it)... the original version performed by the London Symphony of "Jesus Christ Superstar"... Here is Judas crying in the 2nd song.
... listen to the songs from the movie "Aladdin" performed in about 8 minutes.
............Oh yeah, its only four men and no instruments, one source of REAL musical SKILL never heard, well... anywhere else.
Really PaleBurnedAcid ??? My favorite is the album "Animals" just for the ~60 minute/one song/ beautiful flow of the four melodies... like an Opera... four movements repeated yet transformed. Then "The Wall", "Wish You Were Here", "Meddle", followed lastly by "Dark Side..." But I love their music!
I listen to stuff that is newer than the 90s because im not stuck in my youth, waiting to die because times will never be as good as when i was 20. I understand and enjoy what younger people are doing creatively.
Maybe you should turn off the radio and look into something that isnt katie perry before you pass judgement.
Do you remember how the final movement of the "William Tell Overture" sounds?
[if needed, the theme song to "The Lone Ranger"]...... I rest my case.
Tell me these guys have no chops and i'll know you're smoking crack for real:
Can any chord progression be written today that has never been written before?
Can any Melody line be written that has never been written before?
...if either 1 or 2 from above is true can it still produce a truly original arrangement?
...if both 1 and 2 are true can it still produce a truly original arrangement?
...if both 1 and 2 are false (most likely) can it still produce a truly original arrangement?
I'm pretty sure that we can agree that it would be almost impossible to create a truly original song. Fine... so we go a new direction, pitch, volume, chord changes, expanding on the "rock opera" concept of a minor symphony with current instruments...
and what did we get? Rap, Hip Hop, Blonde girls with no talent, the halftime show of a Superbowl, or some complete idiot running up on stage talking about "Be-Yonce- Say thats a big butt, ugly woman, and bad singer" or was it that even more useless Rhianna thing? Whatever
only the best can take the old and make it new again yet what we have had over 15 years basically goes immediately to the dump bin.,
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