 Blog PostsFriends         | 2009 Swine Flu...2009 Swine Flu... is the finalized name for this novel virus / influenza A-H1N1.Global containment is no longer possible. There should be no fear or panic and hiding the real head count numbers for the sake of economic prosperity. Rather as much information as possible should be collected and published. Schools being hard hit is an interesting concept. What types of schools are they? In the end times they speak of false prophets and we all know of the false philosophies, beliefs and emotional manuipulation of young minds that occurs in schools. It would be fascinating to track the profiles of those infected with the disease. What do they think about GOD? How much false information and false hatred of GOD do they harbour? At one time God stopped natural disasters around Canada and the world. This was due to the Media's portrayal of groups victimness at the changing winds of nature. God lacked certainty that mother nature was simply following God's rules and should proceed uninterrupted according to set rules and plans. In essence God had to see the proof for himself. It's ironic that many in wireclub speak for God on quasi-correct historical texts that spoke for God in agrarian (sp?) societies and none of the wireclubbers can make the connection to today's reality and extrapulate those historical rules forward. You should not be scared of the 2009 Swine Flu facts. You should gleefully collect and analyze as many facts as possible for future generations' peace and prosperity.  richard_d_lee: I read this morning a new story about the 1918 Spanish Flu. They reiterated people who got the spring flavour of the flu faired much better in the killer fall/winter flu. Using "social distancing" they cut down on the spread of the winter flu. Using staggering work hours to cut down on rush hour congestion they also cut down on the spread of the winter flu. This was confirmed by doing studies of different cities that implimented the techniques versus those that didn't impliment the techniques. The stock market is poised for her "sell in May and go away" phase. When they are "away" they can brush up on the 1918 Spanish Flu to plan work in September. richard_d_lee: I've been to Dominican Republic as have many other Canadians and Europeans. It's health care system isn't up to snuff with tracking 2009 Swine Flu. In all likely hood Canadians brought the flu to them, rather than the reverse being true. For example a Canadian returning from Mexico sits next to a Canadian leaving for the Dominican Republic at the airport. ==== 18 mins ago SANTIAGO, Chile – Chile's Health Minister says a 32-year old woman who had just arrived who from the Dominican Republic is the South American nation's first swine flu case. Alvaro Erazo says the woman arrived early Saturday from the Dominican resort of Punta Cana, with a stopover in Panama. Erazo told a news conference on Sunday the woman is recovering well and receiving treatment. He says all the passengers who accompanied her on the Copa Airlines flight are being contacted to determine their condition. All will be asked to voluntarily remain confined to their homes for a few days. Chile so far has checked 163 suspected cases of the flu with only one case confirmed. The Dominican Republic so far has not confirmed any swine flu cases. richard_d_lee: Japans totals almost tripled in 90 minutes: ===== 38 mins ago KOBE, Japan (AFP) – Japan on Sunday confirmed a total of 80 cases of swine flu, most of them high school students and teachers, amid fears hundreds have been infected, a media report said. "The number of cases of domestic new flu infections in Japan hit 80 on Sunday after a total of 72 high school and college students as well as teachers and others in Osaka and Hyogo prefectures were confirmed to have been infected with the new strain of influenza A," Kyodo news agency reported. The number of cases has risen quickly in the western cities of Osaka and Kobe after the first eight domestic infections in the island-nation were confirmed Saturday among students who had not travelled overseas. Local authorities said more than 1,000 schools and kindergartens in the affected areas would temporarily suspend classes from Monday, while movie theatres were also asked to close and some companies told workers to stay home. Several hundred people in Japan may already be infected with the (A)H1N1 strain, Masato Tashiro, chief of the National Institute of Infectious Diseases' influenza virus research laboratory, was quoted as saying. richard_d_lee: Age of Flu Victims Has Big Implications Scientists Say Relative Youth of Ill People Is Evidence of Pandemic Potential By David Brown Washington Post Staff Writer Sunday, May 17, 2009 The swine-origin influenza A (H1N1) virus that burst into public consciousness a month ago is starting to behave like a mixture of its infamous, pandemic-causing predecessors. It seems to have a predilection for young adults, as did its notorious ancestor, the 1918 Spanish influenza. Many of the young victims who have become deathly ill turned out to have other medical problems -- a phenomenon first clearly seen with the 1957 Asian flu. H1N1 is spreading easily in North America but sputtering in Europe, just as Hong Kong flu did in 1968. And as in the mini-pandemic of Russian flu in 1977, some people appear to have a degree of immunity. Exactly how swine flu fits into the pantheon of flu pandemics will not be known for a while. It will take months -- and many more victims -- for its full personality and behavior to emerge. But one thing is clear: This is a lot more than just seasonal flu out of season. After a brief moment when news of the outbreak in Mexico made swine flu look like a horseman of the apocalypse, public health officials have spent much effort reassuring people that most of the time, the virus causes a mild illness that can be ridden out at home. Yet, officials at the World Health Organization, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and elsewhere do not want the public to get blase. ==== Someone could setup a 10 billion dollar island populated with 10,000 children whose multi-millionaire parents pay 1 million dollar per child for safe keeping from 2009 Swine Flu. Think of it as a 2 year "super boarding school". ====== richard_d_lee: The big question which the CDC and WHO advise against today is, do you WANT to get the mild version of the 2009 Swine Flu today in the hopes of weathering a POSSIBLE more severe version in the coming winter?
richard_d_lee: The CDC confirmed my estimate of 100,000 Americans infected with the spring version of the 2009 Swine Flu. Story below comes from: http://www.naturalnews.com/026288.html ==== (NaturalNews) H1N1 influenza (swine flu) has spread beyond the ability of the CDC to track it, leading one of its health authorities (Daniel Jernigan) to admit that 100,000 Americans are likely already infected by the swine flu. The CDC has only "confirmed" 4,714 cases of the flu so far, but by its own admission, the CDC's testing lab is so hopelessly overloaded that it has all but abandoned trying to identify every case of swine flu. All it can do now is estimate the likely number of infections through statistical modeling. That modeling essentially says that swine flu is already at a pandemic stage, and it will eventually infect anywhere from one-third to one-half of the world population, depending on whose figures you believe. So if swine flu is infecting so many people, why aren't more people dying? Some people are dying from it, of course. The latest is an assistant principal of a NYC school, who just passed away yesterday (http://www.nypost.com/seven/0516200...). richard_d_lee: Another article says the CDC says the number of 2009 Swine Flu infections in the USA is 50,0000. They estimate another 50,000 have the regular flu. The CDC lifted their non-essential travel warning against Mexico. Should we lower the pandemic level to zero for now in the Northern Hemisphere and raise it to 6 in October if need be? Can the WHO maintain two pandemic levels and keep the Southern Hemisphere at 5? richard_d_lee: Flu's usually come in 3 or 4 waves.... this is just the first wave.... in 6 months the second wave will start. after 2 years we'll know how "scary" it "was". During this first wave we have the luxury of carefully scrutinizing individual case data for social / demographics, classes, race, genetics, etc. In the next wave there will be too many cases to keep up. Last week they said people with underlying medical conditions were the ones that were dying. This week family members of those cases are saying the media / medical community were lying about underlying conditions. It's funny today people are speculating on if others speculated too much on the severity. Fact of the matter is, it is too early to speculate on this new flu itself, and crazy to speculate on the earliier speculations. richard_d_lee: I'll start this post with the adage "don't be alarmed". Todays free paper called "metronews.ca" describes the sudden death of an 18 y/o teenager who was fine, then found a couple hours later in a bathroom dying. CPR was performed until the ambulance arrived but he died. I would immediately check for 2009 Swine Flu virus because this story sounds just like 1918 Spanish Flu where people were perfectly fine in the morning and then dead by night fall. I some Swine Flu is found they can still say it was underlying medical conditions if they want to. If no Swine Flu is found, it is a nice dry run to do the same thing with every mystery death. Remember the virus quickly dissappears and you have to check right away. It's interesting the death is Rocky Mountain House, Alberta, Canada which is one of the special names on my evil location watch list. I'll end this post with the adage "don't be alarmed". richard_d_lee: story from CBC TV aired January 11, 2006 at 9pm found at: http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/nextpandemic/1918.html ==== “It was like a pressure cooker on the home front,” says John M. Barry, author of The Great Influenza: The Epic Story of the Deadliest Plague in History. “The lid was being kept on during the war, but as soon as the war ended than all those pressures were just released.” The flu was most deadly for people in the prime of the lives, aged 20 to 40 (an unusual pattern of morbidity for influenza, which typically stalks the elderly and young children). Pregnant women had the highest rates of mortality. The 1918 strain also struck quickly and inexplicably. Some people went to bed healthy and simply never woke up. “ There are reports of people who went out to work in the morning and were dead before they came home that afternoon,” says Barry. “Some of the more horrific symptoms included bleeding from your nose and mouth, and from your ears and even your eyes. In some cases, the floor would be covered in blood. It was an incredibly gruesome situation.” At the pandemic’s peak, medical facilities across North America were swamped. Doctors, nurses and other healthcare workers were already overtaxed treating casualties from the war. Many were still working overseas caring for the wounded when the pandemic took hold. No one knows for certain how many became victims of the virus themselves. Death services, such as mortuaries and cemeteries were also overwhelmed. The bodies of victims lay in homes for days at a time, sometimes more than a week. “It was a horrific circumstance,” says Barry. “In some cases, where they had funerals, they were renting coffins. They would have a service with somebody in the coffin; the body would go to the cemetery without a coffin, and then that same coffin would be reused for another service 15 or 20 minutes later.” (continued in next post...) richard_d_lee: (... continued from above) Communities react People in closed communities were most vulnerable. For example, the flu spread rapidly through U.S. army camps filled with men who had not deployed overseas. It was reported that 500 prisoners at San Quentin Penitentiary in California were affected. In some communities, it was a criminal offence to shake hands. Gatherings of more than six people were banned. Schools, theatres and other public buildings were closed. In the U.S., railways demanded passengers have a document certifying they were free of the flu. “The Red Cross reported that people were starving to death – not from lack of food, but because people were too frightened to go near the sick to bring them food,” says author John M. Barry. “In most cases, you know, the communities began to fall apart.” ==== This stoy explains the "sign" today of the pregnant woman. Also many fathers were clutching their 18 month old daughters today, another "sign". Lou Dobbs suggested the medical community is now lying to us about the severity of the 2009 Swine Flu. Of course we've witnessed coverups over 9/11, Iraq and FIAT currency. It's hard to say if they would cover this one up or not. Castro accused Mexico of covering up the initial Swine Flu outbreak in order to accomodate Obama's visit in middle of April. No one has the power to find out the truth...*shrugs* richard_d_lee: There is a debate whether or not the WHO can call the 2009 Swine Flu a "pandemic" by raising it to level 6. The definition of the word is: ==== pan·dem·ic (pn-dmk) KEY ADJECTIVE: Widespread; general. Medicine Epidemic over a wide geographic area and affecting a large proportion of the population: pandemic influenza. ==== Although the Spanish Flu of 1918 was classified as a pandemic it was ALSO classified as a "Plague". On technical terms the WHO can safely call it Pandemic as soon as Japan has enough cases (1000?) or South America (entering flu season soon) has enough cases. When they call it a "Pandemic" they can simultaneously say it isn't a "Plague". In either case, the lost time in schools, businesses and drain on the health care system makes it a serious issue no matter how you look at it. At the end of June (or whenever enough raw data is available) we need a debate on whether everyone should be given the current version of the Swine Flu in controlled settings. For example, identified high risk groups can be given it in hospital settings with respirators, etc. richard_d_lee: 44 y/o St. Louis man dies after 14 days (or so) in hospital. Portion of the story below. Yesterday I was wondering that if you used the medical technology and information exchange speed of 1918, how severe would this Swine Flu of 2009 be? For example out of 5,000 infections the US reports 500 hospitalizations. How many of these people would have died in 1918? ====== By Blythe Bernhard and Phil Sutin ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH 05/20/2009 Anyone exposed to swine flu from a 44-year-old St. Louis County man who died Tuesday is no longer at risk of contracting the illness, county health officials said. The man had been hospitalized for longer than the flu incubation period of one to seven days, said Craig LeFebvre, spokesman for the St. Louis County Department of Health. That means people shouldn't worry about possible encounters with him because they already would have gotten sick. "They likely weren't exposed, and if they were exposed, they would have been symptomatic by now," LeFebvre said. The man visited Mexico in late April, became sick early this month and died Tuesday morning at a local hospital, health officials said. Lab tests conducted before the man died confirmed he had swine flu. There are no known underlying conditions that may have been contributing factors, but an autopsy and more tests will be conducted to determine the exact cause of death. Health officials declined to give the man's name, hometown or hospital, citing privacy laws. Family members and other people who had close contact with the man have already been reached by the health department and treated with anti-viral drugs as a precaution. The health department has not received reports of other suspected swine flu cases in the county. Flu experts urge people to keep perspective. Despite the death of an apparently healthy and relatively young man, the swine flu has not proved to be more dangerous than the regular flu that circulates each winter. richard_d_lee: It seems you can get the same flu twice. According to: http://answers.y****.com/question/index?qid=*******2100417AAiSgNj ==== Yes. You can catch the same Flu virus twice in one year. This is because the Flu virus infects mainly the epithelial cells from the nose down to the terminal bronchioles in the lung. If you have not crossreactive immunity from last year's vaccine, and have not been vaccinated this year, the virus will take about 5 days to make this trip down your respiratory epithelium, damaging or killing cells as it moves forward. Then, if someone with an active case visits you and coughs or sneezes on you on day 5, you will get the Flu again. This is because it takes from 7 to 14 days to generate enough immunity to flu virus needed to fight it. If you had partial immunity left over from last year, the virus might infect your nose and throat but by the time it starts to enter your trachea your immunity will stop it in its tracks. There are two main types Flu virus [A and B] and each contain two surface antigens that vaccines target [a Hemaglutinin and a Neuraminidase] which may be in one of several types [usually indicated by a number] so Flu virus vaccines go by the shorthand of H1N1 or H3N2 etc. Several strains may be circulating but there usually are not more than 3 to 6 strains that contain new antigens which would make you susceptible. What is interesting is that the men who guessed which strains would circulate this year did not include the H3N2 strain that was identified in Brisbane, Australia, last February. This is because it was identified after this year's vaccine was in the process of being made. Therefore, you have a better chance this year than in the past to have the opportunity to catch the Flu twice as none of the antigens in this years vaccine will protect against the Flu strain that is presently making lots of people sick. Source(s): http://www.fda.gov/cber/flu/flu.htm http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/relate... richard_d_lee: New York City is finally taking some of my advice from weeks ago: NEW YORK, NY May 20, 2009 —When H1N1 flu first struck New York City last month, health officials were quick to discourage the public from flocking to hospitals. Now, after a week of the virus rapidly spreading through schools -- and at least one confirmed death -- the message is changing. WNYC’s Fred Mogul has more. REPORTER: People are still going to emergency rooms in large numbers, but now the city isn’t saying much about it. If anything, Mayor Bloomberg and other officials seem more intent than ever on letting people know they should seek medical help, if they’re severely ill or have flu-like symptoms and a chronic health condition, such as diabetes or heart disease, or if they’re especially young or old. BLOOMBERG: Whether you have health insurance coverage or your immigration status is in question it doesn't matter. We will not ask about that. The only question that matters is are you severely ill, and if you are, our hospitals are there to take care of you. REPORTER: Bloomberg and health officials continue to stress that almost all swine flu cases are fairly mild, but that severe -- and even fatal ones -- are inevitable. For WNYC, I’m Fred Mogul. richard_d_lee: Mexican prison riots over cancellation of visits over concerns of Swine Flu is reported today. From 1918 we learned prisons were hard hit by the flu. Ironically the prisoners need to be protected from the guards who circulate in the outside, and by their visiting "loved ones" who may be carrying the virus. Consider setting up sleeping tents in the gym yard to reduce inmates sleeping to close together. Consider setting up smaller cooking crews and laundry crews that work around the clock to reduce people congestion. Consider staggered meal times to reduce people sitting next to each other at tables. Tell the prisoners to be well behaved because they don't want guards to get close enough to hit them with billy clubs because the billy club won't kill them but the guards' breath might! Even though infections aren't in the prison system now, it's good to start these policies and work the kinks out now. Share your policy and research data with American prisons too. richard_d_lee: From China: http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-05/20/content_*******3.htm The first part of the article: ==== HONG KONG, May 20 (Xinhua) -- With the first confirmed case of A/H1N1 flu reported in Tokyo as well as new cases detected in Osaka, Hyogo and Shiga prefectures, Japan's new flu patients amounted to 266 Wednesday. The patient, a 16-year-old high school girl in Hachioji, western Tokyo, has visited the United States, Kyodo News reported. At a press conference on Wednesday, Health, Labor and Welfare Minister Yoichi Masuzoe said that all those suspected of being infected with the new flu will still be subject to detailed examinations, called polymerase chain reaction analysis. In another major latest development in the Asia-Pacific region, two more confirmed cases of influenza A/H1N1 turn up in Australia on Wednesday. Australian Department of health and aging said on Wednesday that one of the newly confirmed cases is a Melbourne 9-year-old boy who returned from a trip to the United States on May 12 while the other is a female from Sydney, New South Wales who is said not infectious by the department. They are currently being held in isolation at homes. At the moment, Australia has a total number of three cases that are test positive to A/H1N1 influenza virus. In China's Taiwan, the first confirmed A/H1N1 case was also reported on Wednesday. Health officials confirmed that a 52-year-old doctor, a foreign national who flew into Taiwan Monday night, had tested positive for the A/H1N1 influenza. The man, who is currently in stable condition, flew from New York to Hong Kong on Cathay Pacific flight CX831 on Monday, and arrived at Taiwan Taoyuan International Airport aboard flight CX468 later the same day. Health officials are trying to trace other passengers and crew who had been in close contact with the doctor during the flight. ==== (analysis of this story in the next post...) richard_d_lee: (... analysis of above post) It's interesting the foreign national was a doctor which is a warning I had mentioned a couple weeks ago. America was very quick to recommend not travelling to Mexico unless absolutely necessary in the end of April. Now that countries all over the world are getting infected from travel to America, no one dares to suggest holiday and training courses to America should be cancelled. If and when a new strain of 2009 Swine Flu hits the 20 to 30 million people who travel the world each day must be curtailed. The banks will have to pay everyone to stay home and not travel. Ce la vie, ce la gare. America is hell bent on killing her own citizens and those in Afghanistan and Iraq. Mexico and Canada sat by and watched while they reaped profits trading goods and services to America in exchange for the USD. When it comes to having your own country destroyed by a version 2.0 of Swine Flu 2009 different rules will be used. This whole version 1.0 exercise has been highly educational as far as double standards go between Mexico and America travel. I saw a girl with a university textbook called "globalization" a couple of days ago. How will countries learn to operate without globalization and doing business on their own within their own borders? Although I had planned for a more controlled form of "deglobalization", central banks, business leaders and purchasing agents now have a 3 to 6 month window to impliment it "overnight" in relative business cycle and manufacturing plant building time terms. Obviously the less politicians have to do with this process the better off the world will be. richard_d_lee: Cuban newspaper says Canadian toddler hospitalized with swine flu Provided by: Canadian Press May. 20, 2009 HAVANA - A Canadian toddler is the latest person to be diagnosed in Cuba with swine flu. The official Granma newspaper says the unidentified 14-month-old was hospitalized after exhibiting fever and respiratory symptoms following his arrival from Toronto with his parents. It's the fourth reported case on the island. Three Mexican students earlier diagnosed with the flu have returned to classes in Cuba. A Public Health Ministry note in Granma says the toddler now has no symptoms and is recovering, but he and his parents remain under medical observation while receiving an unnamed anti-viral medicine. richard_d_lee: CNN just did an interview with a superintendent that decided NOT to close a school that had infections. His decision is based on what the CDC said yesterday: "(CNN) -- Public health officials are seeing a number of outbreaks of swine flu at schools nationwide, but closing those schools may not always be the best public health measure, a federal scientist said Tuesday. "Unfortunately, there is no approach that guarantees protection from infectious disease spread by things like influenza viruses," said Dr. Anne Schuchat, interim deputy director for the science and public health program at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. "Vaccine may be the best approach." Long-term dismissal of classes would cause major disruption, she told reporters in a conference call. "We typically would reserve that kind of thing for a very severe influenza virus." ... later on she talks about studies of 30 patients hospitalized in California... "About two-thirds of the patients in the series had at least one underlying medical condition that would put them at higher risk for influenza and its complications, Schuchat said, citing chronic lung disease, immunosuppression, heart disease, obesity and pregnancy as examples." What the Doctor and the Superintendent forgot to do, is tell all doctors and nurses as soon as an infection is discovered to notify that student's school. Then to tell the principal to send an e-mail to ALL the parents telling them a student in the school has become ill and URGING all children with underlying conditions to stay home until further notice. Am I the only one in the world correcting these problems? Where is your great leader in all this?... oh yes he said "no cause for alarm"... play basketball smoke a joint chill out. BTW it was 18 private schools and 3 public schools closed in NYC. richard_d_lee: Wrong above, 19 public and 2 private schools. Plus 2 private schools in Manhattan. They just announced a death of a Utah man aged 18 to 25 who died today from Swine Flu. They said he had "underlying conditions". Saying this is useless to parents who need to know WHAT CONDITIONS, so they can protect their children. richard_d_lee: Tucson, Arizona - May 20, 2009 - A "medically compromised" 13-year-old male has succumbed to complications of the H1N1 virus. The confirmed test results were received today from the Arizona Department of Health Services. The young man was hospitalized on Sunday, May 10 and passed away on Friday, May 15, 2009. There was no indication of a travel history. His family members, who were also ill with the virus, have recovered with the exception of one sibling who is currently hospitalized. ====== They now say a "complicating factor" can be an ear infection. I reiterate the medical community must stop speaking in code and say it as it is, ie diabetes, ear infection, whatever each case may be. People know enough about he various diseases out there. richard_d_lee: Tokyo has two female students who are infected. They were in NYC attending classes / tours at the United Nations. It is puzzling that so many people travelling through New York are being infected but NYC's official published infection rates are so low. Yet anidotal stories from NYC suggest contagion is widespread. It is logical to assume Billionaire Businessman Mayor Michael Bloomberg would want number supression to squeeze every last tourist dollar and business dollar out of the world. If this is the billionaire's plan though it will result in short term gain only and long term pain in reality. Japan would never have dared to put a travel embargo to New York City because of fears for economic backlash. Ironically the Yen is falling and the stock market is falling today because of Swine Flu fears and that impact on the domestic economy. Selling out to the American economy at the expense of the domestic economy.... a painful lesson on global trade. Once again this first wave is very interesting on how it was handled. When the second wave hits an automatic 2 week global shut down must be implimented to track down all cases of the mutated virus. Indeed it might not even be a mutated virus it could be totally different bat+frog+cat+dog+pig+cow+bird+human H9N4 new new who knew novel virus or something. richard_d_lee: Story about the 16 month old NYC toddler who died that "did NOT have the swine flu" changed today with some facts taht came out: ===== Mayor Michael Bloomberg said in a public health briefing Tuesday that the city did the tests on the toddler after Jonathan's parents took him to a Queens hospital with flulike symptoms and the boy died within an hour. Earlier, the boy's father said in an interview that doctors told him his son didn't have swine flu. "We don't know what my son died of," said Zeferino Zamora, 30, speaking in Spanish outside his home in Corona. Private doctors and hospitals in New York City cannot confirm swine flu tests. Only the city's health department can perform that test locally, said Dr. Adam Karpati, a deputy commissioner in the agency. The city's only confirmed swine flu death came Sunday, when Mitchell Wiener, 55, an assistant principal at IS 238 in Hollis, died from the virus at a Queens hospital. Tuesday, Zamora was initially reluctant to talk with a group of reporters. But he eventually recalled the night his son fell ill. Zamora, a dishwasher, said he arrived home from work about 8:30 p.m. Monday and his wife, Gloria Castillo, 20, told him she thought their son, who had been fine in the morning, was sick. "She touched his cheek," which was hot with fever, although he said a thermometer wasn't used. The couple rushed the boy to Elmhurst Hospital Center in Queens, where he died at 10:20 p.m. Zamora said the family arranged with the Mexican consulate to have his son's body taken to Mexico for burial. Health officials said Jonathan's 3-year-old sister, Michelle, and a 1-year-old cousin, who had mild influenza-like symptoms, were treated at the same hospital around the same time and released. ===== (analysis below...) richard_d_lee: (..analysis from above) It sure sounds like the 1918 Spanish Flu where someone is fine in the morning and then dead by the end of the day. They say "initial tests are it wasn't swine flu" but tissue samples are being sent to CDC for final analysis. Excuse me?... why wasn't a nasal swab done upon general admission? Also if you treated his two siblings for mild flu doesn't that tell you the toddler probably had flu too? Lastly you said "he probably didn't have flu" but yet you failed to say WHAT he died of. ===== Lots of people are promoting speculations stories this is no big deal. An article I read this morning said 200,000 people are hospitalized for the flu each year in the USA. If that is true, why did the same story report a 50% increase in hostpital admissions, when now that flu season is over there is tons of spare capacity in hospitals for treating flu? If you are used to have 200,000 people being hospitalized with the flu from October to April, then whatever is happening today with swine flu should result in no noticable strain on the health care system. ===== Another story says people born before 1957 don't seem to be effected by this strain. This is wonderful news to all the older do-gooders sitting around bored at home and the lawn bowling society. They can go down to hospitals as front line warriors to take people temperature, get questionaires filled out, etc. while the nurses aged 20 to 40 stay behind glass cubicles in front of their computers doing data entry. ===== In 1918 it was against the law to go maskless unless you were smoking a cigarette (it was believed to save you from the flu). To travel on a train you had to have a document signed by a doctor giving you a "clean bill of health". For the next wave we can use bar code technology to clear people for riding trains, buses and planes. ie Rather than a no-fly list, everyone is considered non flyable unless they are entered in the "ok-to-fly" database. richard_d_lee: Just in... Dubai and Phillipines are reporting their first cases of patients that came from Canada. richard_d_lee: From: http://www.missionariesofafrica.org/articles/sr/sr-spr2003.html We learn that: ===== "Twenty percent of Africa's children will die before the age of five," a recently released report stated. The statement was part of a series of reports that demonstrate the horrible conditions currently facing children throughout Africa. "Every day 30,000 children die from a combination of disease- infested water and malnutrition," the report continued. "Water-borne diseases are claiming one child every three seconds. These diseases are the major killers of small children in Africa." In addition to those lives being claimed for lack of clean water and malnutrition, diseases such as AIDS, malaria, pneumonia and typhoid fever are killing record numbers as well. ===== With 30,000 children dying per day in Africa and if 1,000 times more die per day from Swine Flu than in America due to poor medical facilities it means only 10 to 100 will die per day. Which means a huge Swine Flu plague in Africa (compared to America) will go unnoticed. But will the virus morph into elephant+bird+pig+human or giraffe+lion+bird+pig+human inside africa and spread up to europe? Latest WHO data shows ZERO cases of swine flu in africa. Children are the most likely to die from Swine Flu and 30,000 are dying every day in Africa. Since the CDC can't keep up with testing a couple hundred cases per day, there is no way the WHO is doing 30,000 Swine Flu tests in Africa. Of course the missionaries in africa could be lying about the 30,000 dying per day and it's really between 100 and 29,999. After all they are in the fund raising from pain you can't see for yourself business. Using the name of Jesus Christ in the process is the Christians' problem. richard_d_lee: By MIKE STARK, Associated Press Writer Mike Stark, Associated Press Writer – 22 mins ago SALT LAKE CITY – Swine flu forced Christina Huitron to make a choice no mother should ever have to make. On Wednesday she told doctors to take her 21-year-old son off life support, making Marcos Sanchez the nation's 10th fatality associated with the newly discovered virus that continues to spread across the globe. "I knew he was suffering," Christina Huitron told KSL-TV. "I don't know how he was feeling, but I just knew I had to do it because he was passing away slowly anyways, and I didn't want him to suffer anymore." Sanchez checked into a suburban hospital Saturday, vomiting blood and burning with fever, Huitron told The Salt Lake Tribune. By Tuesday he was suffering from multiple organ failure. Dr. David Sundwall, executive director of the Utah Department of Health, said Marcos, the state's first swine flu fatality, was overweight and had chronic medical conditions, including respiratory problems, that put him at risk. "This is not a person who was overall genuinely healthy," Sundwall said. Sanchez had not traveled recently. Dagmar Vitek, medical director for the Salt Lake Valley Health Department, said an investigation to determine how he contracted the virus was under way. Utah has 122 confirmed cases of the virus. ====== (analysis follows in next post...) richard_d_lee: (...analysis of above post) Finally we are getting more information on underlying conditions where they say "respritory problems"... does that mean he was an out of breath smoker?... but they go on to say the 21 y/o was obese, and 21 y/o smokers tend to be slim. Anyway, the point is coughing up blood was one of the signs of the Spanish Flu of 1918. Another sign was bleeding from the eyes, but none of the doctors have listed this as a sympton yet in the 2009 Swine Flu. On a professional note I must say it is disgusting we have to find these facts out from local news sources and neither the overpaid CDC or WHO buerocrats do this for us. Instead they "wash their hands" of the data gathering and analysis job and speculate on how to give data to glaxosmithkline to make billions on vaccines. Today the WHO refused to raise it to level 6 until the virus is global. This of course includes Africa where the WHO does no tests on the 30,000 dead children per day. This means the WHO will never make it level 6 based on geographic spread. They will only do so if the severity increases and it still isn't global. The old rules for level 6 was simply 2 or more regions of the world. Todays new rules are for ALL regions of the world. Ironically it was regions that are already infected that don't want the global warnings of level 6 to go out. Perhaps the UK wanted to spread it's AAA credit downgrade around the world with the 2009 Swine Flu. For those who don't know who the WHO is... the WHO is the United Nations. The United Nations is also the biggest player in Africa (second to Dick Chenney's Halliburton / KBR perhaps). richard_d_lee: UK's attempts to stop swine flu called flawed By MARIA CHENG – 59 minutes ago LONDON (AP) — Flu experts are looking very closely at Britain — and some have decided that the U.K.'s swine flu-fighting tactics are seriously off the mark and may be hiding a much larger outbreak. Since Britain has the most confirmed swine flu cases in Europe, how the outbreak develops here will have a significant influence on whether the World Health Organization decides to raise its flu alert to the highest level — a pandemic, or global epidemic. British authorities have relied on an aggressive strategy to try to snuff out the virus before it spreads, blanketing suspect cases and anyone connected to them with the antiviral medication Tamiflu. But experts criticize the strategy for wasting valuable medicine and say there's little point trying to contain swine flu, which is more infectious than regular flu. "Containment using Tamiflu is a flawed concept," said Michael Osterholm, a flu expert at the University of Minnesota. "It's like trying to maintain the integrity of your submarine with screen doors." Osterholm, who has advised U.S. authorities on preparing for a pandemic, said the swine flu virus travels too fast to stop it with Tamiflu. "You are never going to contain a flu virus with this strategy and at the end of it all, you will have wasted time and drugs," he said, because it takes much more Tamiflu to prevent a case than it does to treat one. Similar strategies were initially tried in the U.S, Canada and Japan but authorities quickly dumped the tactic. Japanese officials had hoped to contain their outbreak, but now say they probably can't, as confirmed cases soared from four to more than 260 in just a week. Authorities in Mexico never even tried to contain the virus, it was too widespread before they realized what it was. (continued below...) richard_d_lee: (... continued from above) Swine flu has sickened more than 11,000 people in 41 countries and killed 85, according to WHO, whose figures often trail those of individual countries. Mexico has reported 75 swine flu deaths, the United States 10, and there has been one death each in Canada and Costa Rica. British health officials have confirmed 112 swine flu cases — the most in Europe, ahead of Spain, which raised its total to 111 on Thursday. Still, that number has raised eyebrows among experts for being suspiciously low, given swine flu's infectiousness and its rapid spread elsewhere. Rumors have swirled among health officials for weeks that Britain's caseload is far higher than officials are admitting. "It's odd that we haven't seen more cases in Britain after the initial burst of cases," said Andrew Pekosz, a flu expert at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore. Osterholm called Britain's official numbers "meaningless" and said while authorities were not hiding cases, they also weren't looking very hard for the virus. "The numbers in Britain are really not telling the story," Osterholm said. Swine flu was first detected in Britain last month. Experts say flu viruses only need a couple of weeks to become established in a new location. Albert Osterhaus, a virologist at Erasmus MC University in the Netherlands, said once the virus has been circulating, it's time to abandon the containment strategy and save Tamiflu for patients. (continued below...) richard_d_lee: (.... continued from above) Experts said Britain's attempt to squash swine flu might also be masking the true size of the outbreak. Antivirals like Tamiflu work by reducing the amount of virus in a person's body, so people who have swine flu and are taking Tamiflu might test negative for the virus. "Using Tamiflu to contain a virus may nip (an outbreak) in the bud ... but you might also pick up fewer cases," said Osterhaus. Still, Britain's Health Protection Agency defended its methods. "We are still in the early phases of the swine flu outbreak," a spokesman said, speaking on condition of anonymity in line with official government policy. "We believe containment is still an effective strategy but we will certainly reconsider it if swine flu spreads." Pekosz said the low numbers of confirmed cases in Britain could also be due to limited testing. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is testing up to 400 specimens a day, but the British health agency has refused to say how many tests are being done daily. The U.K. is also only testing people with a history of visiting infected countries like Mexico or the United States, or people with links to already-established cases. That limited criteria means authorities could be missing lots of other cases if the virus has already spread into communities. "There's no reason to think this virus would behave differently in Europe than in North America," Pekosz said. "The numbers in the U.S. and Mexico suggest that once you have a certain number of cases, you can seed a relatively wide outbreak." For its part, Spain is taking much the same tactic as Britain. Health authorities have started announcing new swine flu cases only once a week and are handing out antiviral drugs to both confirmed and suspected cases. Countries outside of North America may be reluctant to admit they have a bigger outbreak on their hands, since that could prompt WHO to declare a pandemic. (continued below...) richard_d_lee: (... continued from above) Many governments fear that announcing a pandemic would produce mass panic and confusion, with citizens clamoring for measures — including vaccines, antiviral medications, trade restrictions and travel bans — that could be costly or even ineffective. On Monday, British Health Secretary Alan Johnson urged WHO to raise its standards for determining a pandemic. For now, British authorities say they are still trying to contain swine flu with Tamiflu and have no plans to change who they test. Experts remained skeptical. "If there really are that few cases in Europe, we should all be sending teams there to find out what is going on," Osterholm said. Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. ===== This new article is timely considering my thoughts an hour earlier on britain. London is a huge tourism destination and Britain desperately needs tourist dollars in that over priced place to maintain currency in-flows. Remember the hit Mexico's economy took. London has a huge influx of Saudi Princes investing on London markets, Dubai tourists, etc. The middle east is currently Swine Flu free. But with the earthquake in Saudi Arabia last week, the flu is probably on it's way there. Perhaps through the Hajji. richard_d_lee: Finding the lies in Swine Flu, helped me solve Bird Flu and SARS on the bus. When you read the 4 weeks of postings on swine flu you'll see all the information necessary to solve the university based conspiracy too. YOU're welcome |
The concentration camps Obama built for American citizens (thanks to Yazmeen for linking the Youtube videos) can now be used in the future for quarrantine hospitals.