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tblawrence1990: To add to this why do us guys able to not wear shirts most of the time I'n public where woman can not take of shirt in public place the reason why I never take my shirt of anywhere if a woman can't do it in public why should guys in my opinion. I know some people that would gladly enjoy not wearing a bra and shirt but just not acceptable.
pooruter: Well there is "equality" and then there is "equity"
Equality sounds good, but in practice making everyone the same pays a huge disservice to the differences that exist, not just between sexes, but between individuals of each sex.
I am a woman. Like plenty of women, i would not go topless if it was "allowed"
And this is where "equity" comes in.
Equity refers to what is fair and just, based on multiple circumstances of each individual.
a very tall person, a medium person and a short person are all trying to look over a fence.
Equality would state that if the small and medium person needs a box to stand on, so they can see over the fence, then so does the tall man. It is "equality" they all get the same, but its application is useless.
Equity however takes account of what is fair, what is needed, what is reasonable to provide a level playing field.
Equality is born out of Equity.
Equity in the case of the three people, would mean the short person got the biggest box, the medium person got a slightly smaller box and the tall person didn't get one. In this way Equity ensures all of them can see, but doesn't concern itself with frivolous loss.
Equity sees the person with the advantage is the aspiration everyone else should achieve.
Equality elevates everyone, despite their advantage. I'm sure you can see the difference.
In this case, it would be "equal" to permit women to be free to be topless, but not "equitable"
What would make it equitable, isn't just saying "why cant women be topless too, lets make that a thing"
It is the extinguishing of malfeasant forces in society that make women feel insecure about it. A law/rule saying they are equally allowed to be topless, is not addressing the reasons they don't do it. It ignores equity - i.e. it ignores the reasons why they do not.
A permission to do it, wouldn't mean it happens.
Once people (and I emphasize people here, not just women) are treated equitably. then equality can flourish!
Remember, equity always leads to equality. Expecting equality by merely decreeing it, is useless and ignores the things that need fixing to make it truly equal. --> Equity
johnjohnstone: A lot of stuff on your profile. Im guessing you don't know a lot about anything. Legal huh. Meh. Fuck off bitch