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chowomanishere: I came in and you were gone friend .... We will chat later ....
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Nevzel has a new blog post: Can some atheism come from lack of education? 8 days ago Report
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Nevzel: Atheist said my conversion to atheism occurred on Friday April 3, 1953 when the RE teacher told me and fellow 7 year olds that this was the day Jesus was executed for proclaiming to be the Messiah - How 7 year olds know this?
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WizardBeWitch
WizardBeWitch: Nevzel - just in case you are not aware, atheism only became a difference to Christianity, that is when the first Atheist appeared
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Nevzel
Nevzel: yes atheism to the Roman Gods = is a bit different
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Nevzel has a new blog post: Is Jesus God or the Son of God? 8 days ago Report
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WizardBeWitch
WizardBeWitch: Nevzel - all I can offer is the complexity of determining how Mary was regarded as a virgin, but again, who determined this matter? It seems Mary was visited by an archangel who instructed her she was giving birth to an entity from the Holy Spirit, however the truth about the Holy Spirit is simple - since it is not a physical entity and is of heavenly origin all I can add is simple the Holy Spirit was not male or female as the rest of the Heavenly Beings, since separation (male and female) was not uniting one.
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Nevzel has a new blog post: Name of Jesus - where from? 9 days ago Report
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Nevzel: The Jews used Greek in the Septuagint - Jewish scholars translating the Jewish scriptures into Greek in the two hundred before Christ (Septuagint)
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Nevzel has a new blog post: New leaders for Gaza 11 days ago Report
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Nevzel has a new blog post: People can accept Jesus by studying the NT. 11 days ago Report
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Nevzel
Nevzel: Thanks for that
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Nevzel has a new blog post: Can a Christian claim to have the Holy Spirit? 16 days ago Report
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WizardBeWitch
WizardBeWitch: Nevzel - anybody can claim to have the Holy Spirit, however I would advise caution until you are sure of their spirituality, since many follow the Church, but not Jesus Christ
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Nevzel has a new blog post: Do Jews unconsciously hate Christians? 19 days ago Report
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WizardBeWitch
WizardBeWitch: Nevzel - hate is at the total destruction of mankind - do you personally agree with your end of your existence?
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Nevzel has a new blog post: Who is Hamas? 21 days ago Report
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wheelgirl
wheelgirl: Good question. Even google doesn't show what he looks like. So does he really exist or is the Hamas character made-up
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leona_smith_torquay
leona_smith_torquay: a Palestinian Islamic movement founded in 1987 with the aim of establishing a Palestinian state incorporating present-day Israel and the West Bank. In 2006 Hamas defeated the more moderate Fatah in the elections for the Palestinian National Authority.
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Nevzel
Nevzel: Yes
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Nevzel has a new blog post: Christianity is just hopeful faith? 22 days ago Report
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Nevzel has a new blog post: What do Christians think of Islam? 22 days ago Report
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WizardBeWitch
WizardBeWitch: Nevzel as long as you believe there is only one trinity and it just so happens to be all about Christianity, it is still a party of 3, whereas the Hebrew Trinity is 9, big difference. I wonder what gave Christianity the idea about the trinity in the first place, now they are claiming that Jesus Christ evolved just as he did for the Roman Empire and the spreading of his teachings, as apolitical and apocalyptic only that if we don't do as they are persuaded to let us know all about our destruction, and remember this is New Testament and Jesus Christ was a Jewish rabbi and I perfer that he came to reunite the religions and not separate them as Christianity seems set on doing
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Nevzel
Nevzel: Seems to be Yeshua and his followers as I have stated. But thanks Wiz.
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Nevzel has a new blog post: Being honest to God. Time to be! 28 days ago Report
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WizardBeWitch
WizardBeWitch: Nevzel - reminding yourself that the Kingdom of God is exactly that, no more egotistical narcissistic behavior allowed, time for transformation and that would be more use of the soul instead of ego
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Nevzel
Nevzel has a new blog post: Let people be their own people! 28 days ago Report
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Nevzel has a new blog post: Was Yeshua a fake? 29 days ago Report
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urbeautifulsoul1
urbeautifulsoul1: hell no!
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Nevzel
Nevzel has a new blog post: How is Yeshua not the Messiah? 1 month ago Report
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WizardBeWitch
WizardBeWitch: Nevzel - I believe the word "Messiah" is Greek, who played a big part in Christianity, any time it might be used refers those who perhaps were always programed to seek and do God's creation
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Nevzel has a new blog post: How many lose hope in Christ? 1 month ago Report
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Ztalk
Ztalk: My thoughts are that I read it, and I like it.
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WizardBeWitch
WizardBeWitch: Isn't it time to recognize that Jesus Christ is the number one selection more than anyone else, my questioning always circles the evolution of Religion and eventually it will be corrected so like the Angel who helped John to see the revelation when asked "Is there any hope?" He/She replied. "There is always Hope"
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Nevzel
Nevzel: yes Wiz there is always hope in Yeshua and God Almighty - thanks!
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Nevzel has a new blog post: Why they dislike Jesus 1 month ago Report
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Anaahataa
Anaahataa: I am no fan of Gandhi, but he sums it up nicely. I do not like dislike Jesus. I dislike Christians who are so unlike their Christ.
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Ztalk
Ztalk in reply to Anaahataa: AAAAAAAND?
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Ztalk
Ztalk in reply to Anaahataa: How are they followers of Jesus while going in an opposite direction to where Jesus exists again?

Ana... I'm a bullfrog with wings, I'm competing in the olympics on Neptune right now.
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WizardBeWitch
WizardBeWitch: Not too sure of any earthquake, but there is some testimony of a volcano eruption
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WizardBeWitch
WizardBeWitch in reply to WizardBeWitch: Let me add for the sake of miracles, perhaps the Red Sea may also utilized a Volcano
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Nevzel
Nevzel: yes that is what some geologists think
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Nevzel has a new blog post: Islamophobia 1 month ago Report
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Ztalk
Ztalk in reply to WizardBeWitch: Go to the basics and fundamental. Go to the Bible. Why evaluate people's actions when it is known that people are irrational?

Why do you want to correlate people's actions with a hypothetical God that is a superpower?

If we talk about "Christians" -- okay what are we referring to?

I'm a geologist. Actually I'm not, but I can say I am, easily enough.

You can't sensibly, argue against a supposed group called "Christians" that can't even be measured and defined properly. Like Nevzel said, your argument needs to be regarding the Bible. That's the standard that a self-proclaimed follower of Jesus is measured against.

If you argue against the Bible then you have a consistent basis of reasoning. As a consequence of that, the logic-output from that reasoning is more reliable.

Also, if you argue against the Bible, then you will have a whole lot of information to handle, on both sides (for and against). Arguing against the Bible is difficult. Arguing against an imaginary-group called 'Christians' is easy, because that argument is difficult to measure against anything tangible.

In other words, practically anything good or evil that is attributed to 'Christians' will have some n% truth + some n% false. Pointless exercise.
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WizardBeWitch
WizardBeWitch: My only answer for my truth is I use the Peshitta, which is a view of the Old Testament as it was in Aramaic, what has been tagged to it is, of course, the New Testament and my version is the very first one that was codified, although Jesus Christ only appears in the New Testament and you'd be more than hard pressed to find his name alone in the Old Testament - the only other referral I use are the stricken gospels from Jesus testimony, I believe they give creditability to the existence of Jesus Christ, I also use the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Essences gospel known from Jesus Christ again, and of course I use "Q" the lost gospel of Jesus Christ, we know Jesus spent some time with the Essenses, Kabbalists, and Nazarenes - whether you care to give anything your credibility - there is much testimony given to a Messiah (Starting in Abraham) there is no name, so it is a few people in truth that all fulfilled much of Isaiahs gospel, with the knowledge of only a Jew might speak to is the Jewish Lifestyle of Jesus Christ, in Hebrew if Jesus was truly a rabbi and taught in the Temple, he would have to have a wife (be married) and have children (I know that is a stretch however both Mary and Joseph were very devout Jews and lastly I offer the Ten Commandments that Jesus Christ taught in that same Temple, reading the 1st one and the second one - is all you need to understand that Jesus Christ was an end result of Messiahship, in other words the New Covenant, I have a hard time with that one, since as a Kabbalist I believe Jesus Christ came to do two things, one unite the religions and two he restored the word of God, thereby allowing all others the Kingdom of Heaven without any special new covenant for pagans and gentiles not necessary
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WizardBeWitch
WizardBeWitch: Nevzel our limited view of wisdom is human (the rational mind along with the ego, how many folks are interested in a spiritual view, because transformation becomes an issue and of course is man capable of that - not in rationality but only through meditations, prayers, dreams and to make the effort to learn about how eastern users of Aramaic believed one must feel the words while using those efforts
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WizardBeWitch
WizardBeWitch: Nevzel not if you understand the wisdom of the time, and it is so simple, Jesus Christ was one of a few messiahs and he was the end of a successful line of people who understood the truth about transformation, it has to happen here, Jesus Christ came to reunite the Religions and people and best of all Restore the Word of God
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Ztalk
Ztalk in reply to WizardBeWitch: I wonder why Jesus said and showed that he was the one-and-only of his type? That is from books of the Bible primarily, with some evidence from extraneous texts.

A first place to start is to suppose that Jesus was like, deranged, psychotic, delusional, hallucinating, something like that. Mentally ill.

While Jesus said things that suggest he was insane, on the other hand he demonstrated that he was lucid and rational, winning debates against the best scholars of his time and place. The things he said are so profound that people are still figuring out real-world things that Jesus's statements relate to.

There is some step of faith in any direction you go to find the truth. One direction has a much higher probability of being true. In other words: One guess can be better-informed than other guesses.
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Nevzel
Nevzel has a new blog post: Jesus and the Phoenician woman 1 month ago Report
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Nevzel has a new blog post: Jesus said 'It is Finished' 1 month ago Report
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WizardBeWitch
WizardBeWitch: Perhaps Nevzel what Jesus was referring to was the end of one kind of life for a better one in eternity and perhaps the tribulation was to begin
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Ztalk
Ztalk: @Witch __ Yes. Dying in your spirit as a son of Adam, being born again as a son of God, and as Jesus's friend (in Jesus's own words), those concepts are within Points 2 + 3 (in Nevzel's statement). The "better life in eternity" as you put it, depends on if you know Jesus personally, or not. The most difficult aspect of that in practice, is to follow his commands. To love Jesus is to follow his commands. That is not negotiable. This is not my opinion. It is written.

With regard to the tribulation beginning, it can be rationalized from many different 'angles', that at Jesus's death, a new age (era) began on Earth. I strongly suggest that the matter of 'an age' (era) is an advanced topic for dedicated scholars. It is not an easy topic to learn and make sense of. It also has little impact on your life, simply because the world ends for you, when you die. You do your job properly, no matter what era you are in.

If you study The Bible in depth, you can see that God can convey a lot of meanings within a simple sentence. Many meanings are not immediately-obvious, while Nevzel has covered the fundamental meanings "It is finished" here. What Nevzel wrote, can be backed-up by so much research that it will overwhelm you. It is not his opinion.

'Books of The Bible' have been thoroughly analyzed by very gifted people for thousands of years. Many of them have earned qualifications to talk about the Bible, for how they can demonstrate the knowledge they have learned, and for the quality of the work they produced. It is perfectly common for some people to dedicate their entire life to understanding The Bible and associated texts. They don't think it's funny.

I suggest you spend more time learning about what they have figured out, collectively. I say that because I can tell that you don't know what you're talking about.

Your opinion does not change the truth. The truth does not become what anyone would like it to be.

Wizards and witches are a violation of natural law. If you like that or not, it doesn't matter. It is written. Someone needs to talk to you straight-up. So I will. This is how it is. It's not how I want it to be, or how any person wants it to be.

It is written. It has been done. It will be done.

Your point-of-view and all of that, can impact only one aspect: Comply or do not comply.

It's dead-simple. God does not negotiate with you or me, while whatever thing that God is, is the most just and fair power that exists. That is demonstrated in everything God does. The signs of justice and fairness are everywhere that the God of Abraham is found.

Can you imagine how the universe would fall apart if God took suggestions from the human forum-of-thought?

Only a superpower that humans cannot imagine, can hold the universe together, as Physics shows it is held together, and as Biology and Chemistry show it is guided.

I suggest that you place your bet on the best -- that's why they call *that* God, the Most High God. After all, it did create the other gods.
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