 |             gronchbove: The Danglo seeks to force all to commit his crimes for him. When we say NO, the Danglo threatens to jail us. Why? Their entire system is based on crimes against humanity. In the end, we praise Black Muslim Ali for his morality, character and strength, while rejecting the weak-kneed Imperialist criminals.  Him_over_there: Agreed [gronchbove]. This level of courage is a rare gift amongst men. As was Ali himself; the poet, the political commentator, the entertainer, the athlete. gronchbove: My brother just told me a great story about Muhammad Ali after he won the 1960 Olympic Gold Medal. He returned to America after he represented the nation. One of the Southern restaurants said they don't serve Blacks. Ali had represented America proudly and this America would not even respect him. So Ali tossed this 1960 Gold Olympic Medal in a river. That is what people should do to America - toss the garbage in America.  Metaverseguy: Of course, there is also a big history of Muslims (Moors) enslaving blacks and other races and religions in North Africa and other parts of the world he neglected to mention. I'm sure he had plenty of time to think about that as Mohammed Ali and not Cassius Clay. Ok, he didn't contribute to the horrors of Vietnam, but the statement was almost one hundred years after the 13th amendment was ratified. Apparently, this browser thinks I have spelling or grammar errors so I'll discontinue my thoughts. gronchbove: The West created "segregation" even in their houses of worship. That is a blasphemy. Our Creator loves all races. Muhammad Ali and Malcolm X both found this truth in Mecca. The West has no respect for any humans. We cherish Muhammad Ali because he was a good man. Muslims lived with the people they ruled. The Moors lived with the people and improved their lives. The Danglos simply oppress nation. The Danglos slaughtered 2 million Vietnamese and 1 million Iraqis and destroyed the Chinese summer palace during the Opium Wars. For what reason? Evil? Him_over_there in reply to Metaverseguy: Muhammad Ali's criticism here is not against the White peoples specifically but against an American power structure of mindless belligerence (military industrial complex), against racialist domination and control (oppression of Blacks and Coloureds) and against any creed which benefits in the service of modern Capitalist Imperialism instead of opposing it. Because it represents an offence to Humanity. Him_over_there in reply to gronchbove: People tend to harbour infantile notions of what 'evil' actually is: the cackling laughter of a wrinkled faced ogre; some abstract dark mist hanging ominously in the shadows, or the modern observation that only positive and negative acts exist and evil is an obsolete concept. Evil does exist however. It can be found in law. It is the deliberate oppression of one group over another for selfish gain. It is our complicity with said oppression; through fear and indifference an unwillingness to rise up against what we know in our hearts is wrong.  Italiano556: I personally would Just blow them crackers brains out for just simply being stupid!! XD LOL gronchbove: HIM is correct. The wicked don't care. American slavery included White indentured servants, Natives and finally Africans. Muhammad Ali demanded respect for him as a human being. Him, I am going to repost your evil quote and give you credit. That is spot on.  (Post deleted by Super Esquire ) Super Esquire: Muhammad was a legend in the ring, dancing like a butterfly, stinging like a bee. A poet with his words, this quote manifests the historical black suffering with such sincerity. Super Esquire: The black vets who returned from the conflict asked: We were okay to fight alongside in the trenchs, but not to sit beside at the lunch counter? Seriously? And thus ushered in the civil rights movement with greater moral feevor, bc these black soldiers had served their country well and come to expect more.  briansmythe: Muhammad Ali was a loud mouthed fool , He begged Joe Frazier to forgive him for all the things he said, and didn't even have the guts , to phone him Phoney  briansmythe: sincerity Please he refused to go through , what His Black brothers did , He did nothing for his country was Just a Pin up boy for the Nation of Islam , After he Converted , It all was a Sham briansmythe: When Mahammad couldn't Box cos of His Draft Dodging , Guess who was there for him Joe Frazier even lobbied for him to get His Boxing Licence back, Then when he did The nation and Ale Painted him out as a sell out to the white man , Turned his back on him , Some Hero Metaverseguy: Allah was also God. Islam is an Abrahamic religion, even if you don't approve of polygamy. briansmythe: allah isn't god , How do you have more than one god , saying that is meaningless who wouild worship Abraham , He was a prophet just like they reckon This Allah is briansmythe: any way whole point was I think ARli wasn't a good role model for African Americians Good fighter yeah, but Ethicis No Metaverseguy: In monotheistic religions there is only one God, right? I thought that was the point. Even if you disagree with middle-eastern religions you have to agree that monotheism equals one, or maybe you just don't like Arabic cultures? briansmythe: I don't know why there Is so much confusion around ,Islam is Arabic religion , Unless your trying to say Abraham was Arabic ,If that's the Case you might as well just say Jesus Christ was Arabic , Or you could Submit to Allah  Super Esquire: @Brian, I am not ready to be so dismissive of Ali. One can serve your country in many ways, as Ali did in the ring. I think the Arabic connection Ali got involved with was bc he thought he saw christianity propping up the suppression of the black man. "Slaves be good to your masters," the south was quoting paul from the bible, not realizing that Christ had changed the meaning of the word master, to him that can do the most good for others. "If you would have one be your ruler, have him be your servant," Christ taught. Super Esquire: Ali missed the fact that the west absorbed slavery from the Arabic slave traders, and were naive that it would self extinguish, as the u.s. founders thought. Most all nations, historically, had some sort of slavery, but the judeo Christian nations lead to its removal, as the true christianity prevailed over the pseudo christians. Super Esquire: Much blood was spent during the u.s. civil to free the slaves, more than all u.s. wars combined. Primarily a white man's war paying for a white man's sin. briansmythe: Your right there super guy Spot on , Oh well if people want to remember ali who am I to say other wise  (Post deleted by Lucy Bullish Pearl )  shinedowness: This reminds of me why I find the fact that America sells games like Grand Theft Auto, music like Marilyn Manson, food like McDonald’s, toys for BDSM torture, films like Batman: The Dark Knight, and shows like American Horror Story just makes me disappointed because of the sociopaths and psychopaths selling that stuff just for thrills because they don’t care because the instinct that tells them what they are doing is wrong is not strong enough or nonexistent and don’t have the mindset to be parents of good children. American culture is about benefiting rich people, those rich people’s businesses, and the products those businesses sell. It is not about protecting average people from business exploitation that turns them from being potentially good people to monstrous people that torture people for fun at the expense of mental health, play games of immorality for fun at the expense of not doing something that could actually make the world a better place, eat food for fun at the expense of enabling gluttonous behavior that is bad that may make medical bills become a challenge when someone gets older, and extremely fund the military system more than the education system at the expense of making a higher likelihood of ignorant and more vulnerable militarians that may or may not unknowingly work with gang members in the military who are part of the Bloods and Crips and are killing innocent people overseas for greedy oil money or some other type of greedy reason that is sinister, not compassionate. American culture is more sinister than compassionate because of the rates of obesity, sociopathy, psychopathy, harmful greed that makes someone more empty on the inside and die quicker than not, stress, satanically dark “entertainment” that is being sold, Amazon ripping people off with poor delivery services and scammy products sold by scam artists, and you know what… music in the past had songs like the song “War” by Edwin Starr, “Imagine” by John Lennon, “Where is the Love?” by The Black Eyed Peas, and “Fighter” by Christina Aguilera. But, now I get music with songs like “Bad Romance” by Lady Gaga, “Mobscene” by Marilyn Manson, “Mad Hatter” by Melanie Martinez, and “S&M” by Rihanna that scare me because my instincts are working the way they are supposed to be working. The music industry and other industries have bowed down to evil intentions instead of healthy intentions. Stokely Carmichael never got to be as famous as Martin Luther King, Jr because Martin Luther King Jr only said what the white people wanted to hear while Stokely Carmichael was trying his best to help black people more effectively and left America. Bob Marley never got to be more famous because the American government deported him out even though he was a better role model than most of the Americans during his time of living since he only made music to express a reasonable level of reality without poisonously supporting corrupt music that corrupt artists are making today. Edwin Starr, the person I mentioned earlier, left America and went to England on purpose. America is not a good place for peace and sanity. America is out the gate. |
Americans seeking to carve out a mercenary career for themselves serving the nefarious goals of their corporate dictatorship's military industrial complex, might pause for a moment at this insightful, posthumous declaration of the Islamic pugilist, Muhammad Ali.
January 17, 1942 - June 3, 2016 RIP.