My name is Marie. Married, to Ken, with five children. All are fully grown. One daughter, Jill, does live back at home here now. Connie and Rachel are our other two daughters. Connie is the mother of our grandchildren, Amy and Trevor. Our two sons are on opposite ends of the country. Nothing wrong with being called strict parents. We are traditional and old-fashioned. Jill (backntimejill when she chats here) can tell you how punishments are handled when she misbehaves under our roof (FYI, she gets spanked). Other family members that chat here are daughter Connie (connieandphils), daughter Rachel (learning2behave), my brother Dan (keepitsimpledan) and my granddaughter Amy (Aminolongerachild).
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keepitsimpledan: I've seen both of these put to good use on the bare backsides of young ladies and I will say that the orange gets a much more vocal response, before and during actually, as well as kicking and sobbing.