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Trail_7: i used to be submissive with a man if i liked him lots and they would take advantage and put themself first - even at my expense, but in the end it would go too far and i couldn't do it any more and was too hurt it seems. Maybe they didn't know how much it effected me negatively though or really hear me. In some situations there can not be a compromise-like with the sexual, but you can compromise to hold hands for instance maybe.
ControI in reply to Trail_7: Some guys are not right in their spirit. They are just about sex and become so desensitized to pleasure that they cant appreciate the things most valuable a woman has to offer which is not sex.
Trail_7: Actually I don't feel adequate or inadequate when I am on my own but when I used to have family I remember having more confidence-I think/seems
Trail_7: how many times can one stand up for self though. i told my female friend who i know in person over text but meh - i don't think she is being fair yet. Sometimes it is good to let things go maybe. But sometimes it is hard to let things go and be companions and friends.
Trail_7: I think when we live on our own it is easy to look after our own needs or wants but if I had a family maybe it would be harder since I would want to take care of those I love who are near to me
ControI: It helps when we have family who teach us the right path to go on and give us a proper standard for mates in life and philosophies and moralities
Trail_7: oh yea well my mom would teach me those kinds of things but years after she died I would forget and feelings would get the best of me I suppose
Trail_7: My dad also told me some good things - like "you can see what that man is about" - because I think as a woman it is easier to overlook those kinds of things since I wanted to be loved and see the better qualities i suppose
Trail_7: "Some guys are not right in their spirit. They are just about sex and become so desensitized to pleasure that they cant appreciate the things most valuable a woman has to offer which is not sex." I don't know if they are desensitized - they seem to enjoy the pleasures of the flesh.
ControI: Well you can only have so much enjoyment in some things without having to forgo pleasures in others
Trail_7: actually years ago i would (also) tell this guy that maybe he got desensitized to IT but he just told me "it's natural"
Trail_7: but he didn't care about foregoing other types of pleasure with me because it seems he had other friends to have companionship with anyway and also he was tempted to satisfy his flesh and also he didn't like or know me that well to try to care about me more i suppose - not that i was a great catch. The funny thing is opposites seem to attract - I mean very sexual women - women who sleep around since 15 years of age are liked by virgin men, men who sleep around and seem to see sex as a fun act basically and not something deeper to be shared with the one you love tend to be liked by virgin girls. Maybe it's a pull - an opposite energy pull or maybe it's just a coincidence.
Trail_7: So are you saying one has to stop themselves from having it as many times as they want at night and in the morning? I mean "so much" can be a wide interpretation I suppose.
Trail_7: You talk about the physical as seemingly not so important and yet you seem to love the women the most who show their body or maybe it's another reason - I don't really know. But to each their own, like lala said.