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cleversausage: Fight against it in order to become truly free and independent,self-producing,self-efficient,self-reliant,self-productive and non-dependent,,non-reliant on it. An unchained,non-bound conformist,a free thinker not afraid to speak out,or up. Never become a slave or a victim to it or to anyone in any situation!
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cleversausage: Faith : Specifically Firm belief based upon confidence in the authority and veracity of another, rather than upon one's own knowledge, reason, or judgment; earnest and trustful confidence: as, to have faith in the testimony of a witness; to have faith in a friend.

So faith doesn't just apply to a christian based cult ,you agree?
If an atheist has faith - trust ,hope in his belief system - atheism - that "there is no god - then doesn't he or she have a right to express them in a religious room described as " a room for all faiths of humanity"? But being civil,and not hating on others beliefs/belief systems because they want to be the dominant - be #1 or make another drop their beliefs and conform to their beliefs or opinions. What do you think; dude?
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cleversausage: Faith definition, confidence or trust in a person or thing: faith in another's ability.
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cleversausage: What we think then believe,and continuously telling ourselves, makes us exactly that.Others often try to dictate that's how you are, and will always be. You don't have to be what they dictate if you don't want to!
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Sliced Bread: As concepts can be "adopted and adapted", as u've said, they can also be advanced and most often, if not always, it is the originators who advance them. The catch is they tend to advance them as they themselves, the originators, advance.
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cleversausage: I think not...as the originators are long dead..But the descendants of the Sumerians...The Mesopotamians or Judaeans, who later called themselves Jews, modified, it modernized it /change its original meaning....hence the tri-une concept - the winged disc icon.
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Sliced Bread: According to Plato, souls are like ideas. Neither dies.
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cleversausage: The above movie transcript from Disobedience - 2017; is a good example of not judging someone because of the free will they have, and the choices made in their life...As they have freedom...they are free to choose...make choices and decide...what's best for them...themselves...
Through the truths contained in the following statements:
"Judging a person does not defines who they are...It defines who you are."
And " Don't judge (As) behind every person,there's always a reason,as to why they are the way they are".

I sum it up as Psychologically or Pathologically based problems - ranging from various abuses,be it physical,verbal or Mental - that they have experienced,in their Home environment through to their work,and life experiences.That they may have suppressed,hidden due to imagined fear or real threats of reprisal by family,friends,neighbors,peers,religious leaders or peers,or everyday common folk....
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cleversausage: "The Matrix is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth."

"I'm bringing you the real truth. trying to free your mind, my Friend.... I can only show you the door. You're the one that has to walk through it."

"What you know you can't explain, but you feel it. You've felt it your entire life, that there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad."

"If real is what you can feel, smell, taste and see, then real is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain."

Me: “The Matrix is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it when you look out your window or when you turn on your television. You can feel it when you go to work... when you go to church... when you pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.
You: What truth?
Me: That you are a slave, ,my friend.. Like everyone else you were born into bondage. Into a prison that you cannot taste or see or touch. A prison for your mind.”
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If one decides that he/she will undergo a study or research of any kind, be it religious texts or historically-based events (or any for that matter) ; one should FIRST do the necessary research on that particular person's background,history,relevant qualifications and current standing within that particular field. Then go all out to prove the claims of fact made by them, as established facts,prove and verify the claims of truth and accuracy proclaimed by them as beyond reasonable doubt (irrefutable would have been what I would have written but have been made aware of the fact that not all things are infallible - that one cannot deny, debunk as rubbish but can't deny as has been proven to be the truth). By looking at the Pro's and Con's surrounding this person - the positives and the negatives - from the higher accredited /qualified/recognized experts/scholars, and lastly, look at the common man, who praises and the naysayer that debunks and see if one has been put on the path of truth or swayed (thrown off track, lied to or given false information,told and sold one, as truth or fact).
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cleversausage: Is No Man Really Infallible?

Whenever religious discussions take place between Catholic and Protestants, the Protestant (when unable to defend his system--which will always happen!) will invariably say: "Well, no man is infallible." This phrase, which CAN NOT be true (as I shall show) is merely a defensive reaction designed to prevent the Protestant from honestly examining his own belief system. This tract will totally destroy this falsehood. The truth will always destroy a lie...if a man will listen with honest intentions.

So that there will be no confusion over this matter, define the word. INFALLIBILITY means the ability to be free from error in certain statements under certain conditions. The word is properly applied to humans, although sometimes we hear of "infallible" statements or pronounce-ments. In this case even though the word describes the act, it is understood that the character of infallibility is actually meant to apply to the person (or persons) making the statement. So if this expression is used at all it means that those words (in the statement) were made by an infallible person.

Next, in order to avoid confusion, please understand that infallibility has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with sinlessness, perfection, or personal virtue. An infallible person may sin exactly as the rest of us do.

Let's now examine this most common expression. If one says: "No man is infallible," one is making what is (at least in form) an infallible statement. Anyone who says that no man is infallible MUST KNOW this to be a fact, without possibility of error. This is to say...with complete certainty. But if it is offered in this fashion, then the person making the statement is presenting himself as being infallible. And this, of course, destroys the basic statement.

: "How would YOU know, unless YOU are infallible in YOUR judgments?" No Protestant has been able to answer this question. If YOU are a Protestant, ask yourself why YOU can't answer it (especially when the entire Protestant system is based upon this idiotic premise). If you are a Catholic use this question to expose the basic dishonesty of the Protestant system.

Now, sometimes the Protestant will offer that HIS view (that no man is infallible) is only an opinion i.e., something which he FEELS. But then he cannot offer it as a religious truth, for it is only a tradition and opinion of purely human origin. Such things can NOT be offered as part of Christianity (Matt 15:6). Ironically, Protestants often (dishonestly) attack Catholicism as being based upon "human traditions." But, it necessarily follows that if no man is infallible in a system (so that NO ONE can make error free judgments) then all that is left is error prone human opinion.

And, of course, if Protestants offer this view ONLY as an opinion, then it CAN NOT be part of Christian belief, for Jesus condemned this (Matt 15:8-9; Mk 7:7). So, if it is opinion, then it can't be part of Christian teaching. And if it is offered as a fact, then it can't be true. And what is not true, can NOT be part of true Christianity (but it is part of Protestantism).

Moreover, infallibility is ABSOLUTELY necessary in order for man to know truth. ALL of us know (and know INFALLIBLY) that 2 + 2 = 4. ALL of us know (INFALLIBLY) that Tuesday follows Monday. Truth is of such a nature that it can be known ONLY when it can be stated WITHOUT possibility of error. Otherwise, it is NOT "truth" at all, but only opinion or speculation. Truth is that which is ALWAYS in conformity with reality and this means that it cannot be other than what is. If you know a truth, then you KNOW it, and then you are infallible.

When it comes to cashing our paychecks everyone (including Protestants!) knows precisely, exactly, and infallibly how much currency one will get in return. And if we all can know such things about money, which is actually an impediment to salvation, how could God not give us the same ability when it comes to religious truths? He cannot; He does give man this ability. And this means that infallibility is possible for man.

It was Jesus Himself Who told us that His followers would speak with precisely His authority and that rejection of the words of His followers is precisely the same as the rejection of HIM (Lk 10:16). Now, if these words (spoken by true Christians) are not infallibly and utterly correct, then the words and authority of Jesus does not reside in them and Jesus is not telling the truth. These words (which HIS followers speak) MUST be as free from error as HIS own. So, HIS true followers must not only be infallible, but clearly claim the status.

Recall that Jesus promised that HIS followers would KNOW the truth (Jn 8:32). Knowing truth makes one infallible. But -- much more -- as NONE of us now living have heard these words directly from His mouth, we must have learned this teaching (and all others) from INFALLIBLE sources. Even if one wishes to say that "only the Bible is infallible," this could ONLY be true IF (and ONLY if) the translators were infallible in their translations. If they were not, then we do NOT have the true Bible. If they were, then men are infallible.
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