Anna1996: The Don't Say Gay Law - Florida's New Invividual Education Program (IEP) for Transgenders.
Let me start by apologizing for the length of this post, but this is an issue I am passionate about. Just when I though that liberals couldn't become anymore unhinged, The Biden Administration is now threatening to send the Department of Justice to Florida, Alabama, Arkansas and a few other states that have or are working on establishing regulations and individual programs for transgender students. Of course, the Democrats, who claim to be the advocate for us really dont care about the LGBTQ Community or how states educate their LGBTQ students. Democrats and the woke movement is designed for one purpose, its all about dividing us by painting the false nararative that conservatives are racist and homophobic. If you read the new Florida Educational Program provisions, dubbed by the democrats as the "The Don't Say Gay Law", you will realize that its really for the betterment of the school's overall community, including transgender and gay students. Changes include a statewide standardized teaching curriculum and IEP Guideline for transgender students.
Part 1. Curriculam Changes. Good teachers should teach basic education and take pride in forming an educational bond with its students, inspiring them to want to learn. Nobody has a more influence on shaping our children's future, other than parents. Therefore statewide teaching curriculam changes were implemented including a much more stringent testing program for all grade levels. Governor Desantis's new program also gave its teachers a substantial raise in pay and is setting up an incentive program for summer bonuses based on their students test scores. But that didnt stop liberal teachers, mostly female from complaining about the new curriculam changes eliminating their woke movement lesson plans. When they threatened to quit, the Desantis Administration told them to give their notice, so they could get their last paycheck.
All Critical Race Theories, gender identity and teaching children about sex is removed from the State's Teaching Curriculam. This Woke Movement and all its systematic hate for a united America is killing our children and has no business being taught in any basic educational level, especially grade schoolers. If parents want to teach racial issues or gender identity to their children, they will do so. One 3rd grade teacher actually made a video and powerpoint presentation to teach her students that watching porn is normal and they should not be ashamed of it. The video elaborated further that watching porn helps to develop their gender identity and sexuality. As a parent, I cannot imagine how livid I would be if my 8 year old child came home from school and told me about that her teacher's lesson plan for the day was making the entire class watch a video encouraging porn! As such, Desantis's new program bipasses the teachers union and any teacher caught straying from the new curriculam is subject to be disciplined and or fired. The new provisions also gives parents back the lawful right to file legal actions against school districts that do not conform to the revised curriculam. The new program encourages parents to become more proactive in their children's education, starting with knowing the teaching curriculam guidelines.
Part 2: Establishing and implementing a new IEP Team, spearheaded by teachers and or counselors with psychology backgrounds and establishing both the rules for transitioning students and an individual program designed to help them, not to hold them back. Not many realize that suicide is the second leading cause of death among teens and young adults in the United States. The following numbers are eye-opening and based on a study to assess the connection between gender identity and suicide risk. Researchers examined survey data collected from more than 120,000 youths nationwide. Participants were 15 years old on average, and less than 1 percent of them identified as transgender.
Among other things, the survey asked teens if they had either thought about or tried to kill themselves. Overall, nearly 12 percent of the participants said they had thought about it, but less than half that percentage attempted suicide. 52% of transgender teens who identify as male but were assigned a female gender at birth have attempted suicide at least once. 42% of adolescents who don’t identify exclusively as male or female have at least one prior suicide attempt. About 30 percent of trans female teens who identify as female but have birth certificates that label them as male have tried suicide at least once. Those are alarming numbers and cannot be ignored!
Most of the transgenders surveyed admitted that the reasons they contemplated, or worse yet, tried to commit suicide were based on social issues, mainly peer pressure at school, or community and family based rejection. Facing discrimination, and or victimization basically changed their mindset to perceiving that they do not belong. Governor Desantis said after reading the suveys, "It is critically important that we begin investing in asking why, instead of simply counting how many have commited suicide, especially for designing an effective prevention program." Florida's new IEP for transgenders is geared to prepare them for this before they make their transition. But there are rules and restictions.
⦁ An Individual Education Plan (IEP) team will be assigned to start preparing and assessing the student for the transition process in seventh grade year or when the student reaches the age of 12, whichever occurs first. The IEP Program guidelines are basic and are designed be followed or altered, based on that individual student's specific needs. The teacher or counselor will be required to get to know their participating student on a more personal level, to prepare them for all of the life changes as they transition, help them to deal with ridicule instead of letting them be victimized, to meet with their family if needed or those closest in their lives and most importantly to make an educated assesment of that students commitment and readiness to begin the medical part of their transition. This part of the IEP is designed to prepare the student for the social aspects of transitioning, not the medical. Complete confidentiality will be granted on an individual basis at the students request.
⦁ According to Endocrine Society guidelines, patients who want to begin medical treatment like puberty blockers, hormones or surgery should be old enough to give “informed consent,”. The organization claims consenting age is 16. However, the IEP team will have an operational plan in place that will begin either on the first day of the student’s first year in high school or when he or she attains the age of 14, whichever occurs first. The teacher or counselor will be required to watch over the transitioning student, assessing both the physical and physcological effects of the students medical transitioning treatments and as well as how he or she developes socially. School districts will provide and upkeep a website containing all of the IEP Program guidelines as well as other available program's to help transitioning student. The IEP team leader will also encourage the transitioning student's parents or family to access the school district's high school-level transition services, including career and technical education, collegiate programs and or work training opportunities available to such students after graduating, including how to enroll in them.
⦁ A statement of the student’s intent to pursue a standard high school diploma must document discussion of the process of deferment of a standard high school diploma and a signed statement of the student’s intention to defer the high school diploma, if applicable. The statement includes an agreement that the student agrees not not compete athletically against their gender's cisgender classmates.
⦁ Similar counseling will also be provided for non-transitioning students that have LGBTQ sexual preferences and are struggling socially. Counseling will be given strictly on a volunteer basis and confidentiality will also be granted as per the individual's needs or request.
Now really, is that so bad? Personally I think its a responsible way of helping transgenders, both in making their gender identity transitions, as well as making sure they have the proper education and social stability to make their gender transition from high school to the collegiate level or to start their adult life. Yet the liberals are livid, calling the changes "anti - LGBTQ". In fact, 2 days ago — The Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors voted to ban official travel to Florida in protest of the Sunshine State's so-called "Don't Say Gay" law. In the meantime, the rate of suicidal tendancies for transitioning teens in LA will keep going up, because they don't have any LGBTQ or individual transgender programs for students who need help.
I get so sick of hearing from LGBTQ people of how racist I am for being conservative or what a traitor I am to our community! In reality, most of you really dont know what your democratic elected politician really does when he or she is not campaigning for your vote. All the democrats really care about is staying in power. They get your vote by keeping us divided, convincing both the LGBTQ community and minority races, that conservatives are racist and homophobic. But ask yourself, what have they really did for the LGBTQ Community besides talk and promise things? Typical liberals, they bitch about gender and racial problems but they never put forth any effort to implement real change or solutions to those issues. In fact, most far left liberals would rather keep you angry with those issues, its their way of controlling you and most importantly, getting your vote. With transgender teen suicide rates so alarmingly high, dont you think a preventative individual program like this is needed?
JanetRT2010: Girl that Don't say gay bill in Florida....is absolutely the correct thing....They are kids...it only effects kids from kindergarten to like 8 or 9 years old right? When I read the age range the law actually effects....I was like so this "Don't say gay" law is being twisted by the news. I was sitting there shaking my head saying...why on earth do we even have to have a law for this? They are kids for goodness sakes. Responsible education....unreal
Misty_Nicole: the woke has one agenda only, to destroy america. once you understand that it all falls into place. and remember..Americans and conservatives alike Vote this november we need every single vote.
joancoart: Anna everything you said is true. Its the parents job to educate their children on this topic not the schools. TEACH the subject nothing else.
Ninja Platypus: I think LGBTQ+ issues should be addressed. But they should be addressed at the proper age…such as 13+ when those issues start to come forward for people that age. I don’t think it’s a parents job to give education on that because most parents have lack of education on that. That’s like saying a parent should be teaching a class full of kids with a high education. It’s not going to have proper results.
joancoart in reply to Ninja Platypus: Ninja Platypus I respect your opinion but i totally disagree. The issues on LGBTQ+ should be addressed by the parents ONLY. You give parents no credit. My friends and family who have children have gone to great lengths to keep up with all aspects on their children's education, it was up to them to discuss this topic. Morals and values and religion should be taught by the parents period. That's just how it should be, the parents know more about their children than anyone else. The LGBTQ+ topic is in most parents opinion a moral and value issue. This is the same as a teacher teaching their religious belief to their class which is 100% wrong. The only time it is acceptable is when the child is enrolled in a private religious school, and that was chosen by the parents for the school to teach their child their religious beliefs. This is about the WOKE movement trying to push their beliefs and values on the children.. Look at history which today is taboo; for some reason, now the far left wants to rewrite it. In the 1930's the Nazi's formed the Hitler Youth to indoctrinate the children on their beliefs and values, history shown how well that worked out. History is to be remembered, the past mistakes are taught so they are not made again. There will always be some people who don't agree with any topic, that is human nature, The human race is not about being all the same, that is just how it is, we all have different morals and values.
SnapbackAsh in reply to joancoart: How many kids are thrown out each year cuz their parents don’t accept homosexuality, really think those kids are going to get a proper education on their sexuality from their parents. How many parents out their are in favor of conversation therepy think they are going to be understanding of their kids homosexuality questions. So yes while me may agree on younger kids being protected. We can’t trust that parents will educate their kids on lgbt issues or life.
joancoart in reply to SnapbackAsh: SnapbacAsh i agree to disagree with you. You may not like it but children are their parents control until they reach the age of 18 in most states, that is law. It is not up to you or me to tell the parents how to raise their children. If the child in not in a proper home there are laws to protect them. You said you can't trust parents to teach their children about life, that is the craziest thing I have ever heard. Parents teach their children about life every day, don't stick a pencil in your eye, don't cross a road without looking, I could go on all day. This again is the WOKE movement pushing there values and beliefs, you just don't want to accept this.
SnapbackAsh in reply to joancoart: I said you can’t trust anti homosexuality parents to teach their kids get it strait don’t twist what I said to fit your narrative.that’s all you been doing is twisting what’s said to fit your narrative, in your world no kids get thrown out for being gay? In your world no child gets bullied for being gay?
Ninja Platypus: LGBTQ+ educate should be offered through the schooling system, if they parents of kids don't deem it acceptable they can provide an excused absence for their child. It's such an old school way to relay on parents to teach their children things such as LGBTQ+ information. Most parents have no idea what their children are being exposed to online or via their peers. Most children don't go home and tell their parents everything that their friends show them or introduce them to after the age of like 10. As far as you know parents could be teaching their kids that LGBTQ+ children and the devil and should be dealt with. Whose fault is that when the bullying starts? How do you educate kids when the parents aren't educated themselves?
Anna1996: While Woke may mean being aware of discrimination, the left has weaponized the woke movement to keep America divided. I do think discrimination exists still, but it does not exist on a systematic level. Those who think it does, that is their opinion. At the gradeschool levels, opinions should not be taught to our children, the need to still to math, english and sciences. Leave the woke movement to upper level education, when young minds can make up their own mind what is real and whats bullshit!
SnapbackAsh in reply to Anna1996: In all fairness your two commenters above have weaponized the word work (which they hihacked because they do t know the definition) to downgrade those that disagree with them.
joancoart: Anna1996 I could not have said it better, on your description of the WOKE movement/ SnapbackAsh and Ninja Platypus, I am a gay woman and proud of it, thank you. I am not the one throwing insults out there just stating facts, it also in known the LEFT doesn't like facts unless fits them. The majority of parents don't deem it acceptable, most parents i know prefer the "old school way", who in the hell are you to tell a parent how to raise their child. Sorry but most parents know what there child is doing online that's if they let them go online. If they do there are programs to not let children have access to all of the internet, my sister uses one and it works fine. Also most parents know who their children are hanging around with, again my sister vets her child's friends and parents. Now on bullying that is 100% wrong no matter what reason, and the schools should take that serious and expel or give out the proper punishment. Now again you assume that parents are not educated please show me the facts on this, i would love to see them. Like i said i believe by talking to my sister parents are educating themselves on this. I will be waiting for YOUR insults and assumptions..
Ninja Platypus: There wasn’t any insults thrown around… and I don’t even know what the “woke” movement is or what it entails…. My point was Parents who teach their parents about legit rights can teach their kids it’s OKAY to bully lgbtq+ children and by your statements the school has no right to educate against it. I don’t know what goes on behind other peoples doors. Nor do you. So you have no clue as to weather or not parents are educated on lgbtq+ Issues. Just because you have a couple of friends that say they are doesn’t mean squat. Until you have surveys with results that can be reproduced to a tea. You can’t sit there and say that you know parents are educated enough to teach about lgbtq+ rights. Our education curriculum is forever changing they aren’t changing the same things they were teaching 5 years ago. I do however have a younger sister who’s a preteen and is already talking with her friends about sexuality. She is heavily monitored on the internet and only has access to it at home. I do know her school has no teachings of any lgbtq+ issues, and when I sit down and talk with her she learns it from her friends. Her friends who have older siblings and teach them things.
This is only as big of an issue as you make it. I was a teen who was disowned by a parent from coming out of closet at 16 there was no access to any LGBTQ+ resources or education. I fear for her if she is gay and comes out because my mother is uneducated on anything lgbtq+ and will most likely disown her as well. The safest place for her to gain resources and knowledge would be the school.
SnapbackAsh in reply to joancoart: It is you assuming that all parents educate their children on these issues Joan, we are stating the facts that that is not always the case.
Anna1996: ash, you need to move into reality, there is no such thing as a perfect group of any kind, including parents. However, enough parents have voiced their oppinion s about the work movement and critical race theories being taught to their grade school students to warrant the stopping of it all. Especially in red districtsd, as the woke movement is sponsered solely by liberals.
SnapbackAsh in reply to Anna1996: Anna I do live in reality It is Joan that thinks all parents teach equality and justice not myself not Ninja from what I’ve read.
joancoart: Sna[bashAsh What Anna1996 posted is 100% correct; Please fact check my posts i never said all parents teach equality and justice, your words not mine. I said its up to the parents to teach their children morals and values, and about life. The topic we are talking about is in my opinion , are morals and value issues. Yes not all parents or any group in that matter are 100% perfect. But the state of Florida spoke on this issue and you don't like the result. Now it is law there. Yes i know very religious people; some are friends, who believe my lifestyle is biblically wrong, and that i am going to hell, that is their opinion and their morals and values, that doesn't make them bad people that is just there beliefs. Hell they may be 100% correct, but my choice not one of them pushed their morals and values on me they gave their opinion. The ones who got to know me learned that i am a nice and caring person. I do feel sad for you for what you and ninja went thru but again it was your parents and her parents right feel that way. No please don't spin this, i didn't say they were correct i said it's there right to feel the way they do. We have laws in this country and when laws are broken people should be punished for breaking them. I am a black and white person i believe in the letter of the law.
joancoart in reply to Ninja Platypus: Again i never said that it was okay for parents to disown their children. I said it is the parents or anybody's right to feel the way they do. If the parent broke a law they should be punished. Again we have to agree to disagree,about "can't control", I am a proud gay woman it was my choice. Yes choice, lifestyle is a choice and choices can be controlled . I could have sex with a man, but it is my choice not too and i won't. Nothing in me or around me "controlled" me on that choice.
joancoart in reply to Ninja Platypus: Yes being gay is a choice, just like being straight is a choice. Again everyone is not the same, I as an example didn't want to play with boys at a very young age. When i got older i found that i felt nothing sexual about boys, men. I like being around girls, woman. So i decided to date women, that was my choice. It is the same as needing money you can go work to earn it, steal it, or borrow it you make a choice
joancoart: Ninja Platypus i tried to make it simple for you to understand. It has been scientifically proven that there is no gay gene just as there is no straight gene.. Take a look at my profile and read it you will know that i know what i am talking about. I am not trying to be hard on you, i think if we sat down and had a cup of coffee we could become friends. In my country things are getting way out of hand here, our rights and freedoms are slowly being slowly taken away from us by the left, democrats, and it is time for the right, republicans to make a stand. I for one will not sit back and listen read, untruths being spread around. I would make a safe bet that you and most who are against the Bill that was legally passed and signed into LAW by the great gov. of Florida didn't even read it. I DID. As a very well educated woman it made complete sense to me and most who actually read it. Not just listen to the left news stations. So it has been scientifically that there is no gay gene so that leaves choice
Ninja Platypus: I read the bill, don’t really care about it. None of what you said made any sense. You don’t wake up one day and choose to be gay. You choose to act on your feelings. There’s a difference… You can’t choose to be gay but you can choose to act on those feelings and urges…
joancoart: BreAnna00 I do not make an assumption there was a study that went on for 20 years that ended in 2019 that the researchers came to this conclusion and i quote this study, There is no single gene responsible for a person being gay or lesbian. In its stead, the report finds that human DNA cannot predict who is gay or heterosexual. Sexuality can not be pinned down by biology, psychology, or life experiences. Those are the words from the researchers, not mine. So again this is not an assumption on my part. I have read the entire study, i would bet that you haven't so don't say i made an assumption, i deal in facts. I feel that i have the right to believe this study and to comment on it since i have over 20+ years of education a Doctorate Degree in Medicine. So yes i believe that being gay is a choice just as being straight is a choice. I didn't wake up gay yes, just the same that a straight person didn't wake up straight. i am gay because i never had any sexual feelings on the male sex. I made a choice to date woman and be a lesbian. It is simple as that. I am happy and proud of that choice i made. You may think that is funny but that is a fact.
joancoart: BreAnna00 i am not trying to make an enemy of you, i am just voicing my opinion. Like i said in the past many times i am a black and white person no grey areas. 1+1 is a proven fact you can repeat the study and it will always be the same. If it couldn't be repeated every time it wouldn't be a fact it would be a theory, that is how i look at things. I have always stated that me being gay is my choice and my opinion. I haven't made judgement on you i would like to have the same respect. Everyone don't have the same opinion, i respect that, i just try to back mine with facts.Yes in my opinion young children should not be taught sexuality, that is up to their parents to teach that with morals and values.
joancoart: BreAnna00 we have got way off the subject that Anna posted. Not everyone has to agree on her views and post. I happen to agree with everything she said she backed it up with the order of law and facts. Not every person will agree with a law we all know that but like Anna has stated this a ploy by the dems to keep the left and right divided so they get and keep the left's votes. That is my opinion as well.
joancoart: Well that is your opinion I just commented on yours and others views on homosexuality, my views are mine alone and i back them up with facts. I have respect for everyone and their opinions, even if i don't agree with them. And i would never call anyone a male lesbian, that is a left tactic when they cant back their opinions with facts.
joancoart in reply to BreAnna00: I am done with you both i have backed up what i said with law and facts, you educate yourselves then maybe we can have a educated discussion. not what you might have heard on the left news stations. You write a paper on being gay in backed up by dna get it published in a medical journal then i will listen. again 1+1=2 that is a fact it can be repeated. a child is the responsibilty of their parents fact and law, the courts have decided what the basic requirements are for a parent to give their child. i will not tell you them do your own research
BreAnna00 in reply to joancoart: Actually you need to educate yourself on people choosing to be gay, I am sorry you are butt hurt that actual gay and bi people know they did not choose to be gay or bi .
joancoart in reply to BreAnna00: again back to insults the left way, Scientifically prove that gay people didn't choose to be gay. Show you proof then we can talk.I showed scientific proof that there isn't a gay gene.
Ninja Platypus: “ Same-sex sexual behavior is influenced by not one or a few genes but many. Overlap with genetic influences on other traits provides insights into the underlying biology of same-sex sexual behavior, and analysis of different aspects of sexual preference underscore its complexity and call into question the validity of bipolar continuum measures such as the Kinsey scale” https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aat7693
BreAnna00 in reply to joancoart: Are you butt hurt Karen? Cuz if educated people on an issue hurt your feelings that’s sad.. The links posted are from the study you mentioned way up there but since they don’t say what you want they are false You get your news about lgbt from fake headlines not real life that has become obvious. Also way up there you said you was never attracted to men, if that is true then you did not choose to be gay.
Anna1996: Joan, I have to agree with Ninja andf Breanna on their comments. But I would call being gay as a life preference, most people are attracted to the opposite sex, some to the same sex, some are even attracted t o both! We can not help who we are attracted to, or not attracted to. However, this post was about how the liberal medias and politicians has deemed a much needed law or action as anti-LGBTQ, or the "dont say gay" law. America is being lied to, every day, when you turn on and watch liberal owned media and censored socials.
The fact of the matter is this, suicide rates for transitioning students are alarmingly high, and instead of just counting the stats, like liberals do, some conservative states like Florida are implementing preventitive programs. Liberals have one thing down to a science, they know how to bitch about racial issues, including gender identity, but they do not ever seem interested in looking for a solution.
Protesting has become the only thing the liberals ever do, look at Black Lives Matter, whose co-founder just bought a 6 million dollar mansion in California, the fourth property she has bought since their debut, burning down Fergeson, MO in the Mike Brown, hands up, dont shoot protests. Do you think BLM cares about black people, or are they just there to take advantage and enrich themselves by exploiting racial issues? BLM took in 190 Million in donations alone during the George Floyd protests, and for what? To burn down cities? If BLM was really concerned about black lives, they would have taken that money and invested it into the betterment of rural areas, like Chicago's south side, where the black on black murder rate is thru the roof! Do those black lives matter? Or does it only matter if you are black and shot by a white police officer?
How about your elected democrats? Do they care about racial issues or the LGBTQ? They claim they do, they protest and exploit racial and gender identity issues, but actions speak louder than words. President Biden as a senator led the democrats and sponsered The Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) (Pub.L. 104–199, 110 Stat. 2419, enacted by President Clinton on September 21, 1996, 1 U.S.C. § 7 and 28 U.S.C. § 1738C). This law is still partially in effect and it's main purpose was to define marriage for federal marital benefit purposes as the union of one man and one woman. Furthermore it allows states to refuse to recognize same-sex marriages and to deny certain federally funded marital benifits and programs for same sex spouses, even if those federal funded programs are granted under the laws of other states. This federal law still is in force controlling same sex marital federal benefits, although Section 3 of the Act was struck down and deemed unconstitutional by the Supreme Court in 2013 (United States v. Windsor). Basically, if you want federal benefits for your same sex spouse, an you work for the federal government, you are in for a fight still. The democrats claim they care about us, but in reality, if they did, DOMA would be repealed in its entirety and same sex marital rights would be lawfully recognized on a federal level.
Lets face it, The Democrats only care about two things, power and money, and they will lie to you, cheat in elections and do anything to remain in power. If you can't see that, then they have you brainwashed too. Hear their anti-America rhetoric enough and you begin to believe it, brainwashed! The fake news and censoring social media is turning Americans into thoughtless sheep, and I am sick of being called racist and anti-LGBTQ for not following in their brainwashed flock! I am a lesbian that choses to think fior herself! Deal with it!
Kiran Loves Noodles: I also read that study when it was first released. They clearly make note that there is, of course, no "gay gene" specifically, but rather there are many genetic influences that contribute to one's sexual preference. Just as there are many genetic influences that control aspects of our body and personality, so are there many contributing factors for sexual preference. I would suggest maybe re-reading the findings of that study, as you seem to have misunderstood. Furthermore, I cannot fathom how someone who claims to be gay can call it a choice. I absolutely never chose to be attractive to women, but I did choose to act on that attraction. That is the only choice I made. No matter how hard I try, I cannot force myself to be attracted to a male or force desire for one. It simply does not exist within me. It is not a choice.
Anna1996: I hear you Kiran, I certainly do not hate men, but I have never been attracted to them. I knew from the very first moment that sexual thoughts entered my mind that I was attracted to girls. This may not sound right, but I have a sister thats 4 years older than I am, and when I was around 11, I began to notice how beautiful she was. My first thoughts of a sexual nature was to be with someone as beautiful as she was. Btw, my sister like everyone else in my family, cousins includes, are straight baby makers with dreams of the white picket fenced house for their children. After I finally came out to my family, I told my sister about how she was my first attraction. Now its a running joke between us, how she turned me lesbian.
I tell this story because I truly believe that every gay person, both male or female remembers when they first knew they were attracted to the same sex. We all probably even have stories like mine involving our first feelings of same sex attraction, and the effects it had on us sexually. I do remember how confused I really was about how different I felt. Having both an older sister and brother that were dating opposite sex even before I developed sexual thoughts or tendancies made it harder for me to accept that I was truly different. But as I started to mature, I began to grasp my sexual preference and knew that I wanted to be different. Now I relish in it, I have an awesome girl friend who I intend to marry and my family not only accpets it, but they think of Emma as family now (I think my mom likes her more than me sometimes, haha).
Regarding genetic or preferences, unfortunately I know much more about the law and politics than I do about medical and physcological sciences, so I truly cannot say with any certainty whether i was born gay or it developed inside me as I matured. I too have read studies about the genetic differences there may or may not be between gay people and straight, but I honestly never invested too much thought into all of that as its beyond my understanding. The only thing that I know is that my sexual preference is females only and for me, thats never going to change.
Kiran Loves Noodles in reply to Anna1996: I can appreciate you admitting where the extent of your expertise is and where it is not. Psychology and sociology are my specialities, but my knowledge of law is minimal. I can even recall a study based in I believe Japan that made the suggestion that hormonal exposure in utero plays a role in influencing the genetics that control sexual preference to be triggered in such a way depending on the hormones the fetus is exposed to. For example, in the study, rats were observed. During mating, female rats will arch their necks back and bend their backs to allow the male rat to mount and do its thing. It was observed that when male rats where exposed to a higher level of estrogen in utero, they began to display the behaviors of female rats during mating, and vise versa for female rates who were exposed to higher levels of testosterone in utero. As we do know in biology, there are a variety if elements that trigger the activation of different genetics. This was merely one observation.
I believe the notion of "the choice to be gay" stems from the human compulsion to control and establish a hierarchy. Anything outside of the established norm is considered the "other" and is often excluded or even persecuted, which ties in beautifully with the controlling and oppressive nature of organized religion (often cited as an excuse to persecute homosexuals).
Luviissa: Looking at some of the "Female" profiles replying to this post, I think it should be subtitled "A Male interpretation of gender and sexuality through the filter of multiprofiled female avatars".
Let me start by apologizing for the length of this post, but this is an issue I am passionate about. Just when I though that liberals couldn't become anymore unhinged, The Biden Administration is now threatening to send the Department of Justice to Florida, Alabama, Arkansas and a few other states that have or are working on establishing regulations and individual programs for transgender students. Of course, the Democrats, who claim to be the advocate for us really dont care about the LGBTQ Community or how states educate their LGBTQ students. Democrats and the woke movement is designed for one purpose, its all about dividing us by painting the false nararative that conservatives are racist and homophobic. If you read the new Florida Educational Program provisions, dubbed by the democrats as the "The Don't Say Gay Law", you will realize that its really for the betterment of the school's overall community, including transgender and gay students. Changes include a statewide standardized teaching curriculum and IEP Guideline for transgender students.
Part 1. Curriculam Changes. Good teachers should teach basic education and take pride in forming an educational bond with its students, inspiring them to want to learn. Nobody has a more influence on shaping our children's future, other than parents. Therefore statewide teaching curriculam changes were implemented including a much more stringent testing program for all grade levels. Governor Desantis's new program also gave its teachers a substantial raise in pay and is setting up an incentive program for summer bonuses based on their students test scores. But that didnt stop liberal teachers, mostly female from complaining about the new curriculam changes eliminating their woke movement lesson plans. When they threatened to quit, the Desantis Administration told them to give their notice, so they could get their last paycheck.
All Critical Race Theories, gender identity and teaching children about sex is removed from the State's Teaching Curriculam. This Woke Movement and all its systematic hate for a united America is killing our children and has no business being taught in any basic educational level, especially grade schoolers. If parents want to teach racial issues or gender identity to their children, they will do so. One 3rd grade teacher actually made a video and powerpoint presentation to teach her students that watching porn is normal and they should not be ashamed of it. The video elaborated further that watching porn helps to develop their gender identity and sexuality. As a parent, I cannot imagine how livid I would be if my 8 year old child came home from school and told me about that her teacher's lesson plan for the day was making the entire class watch a video encouraging porn! As such, Desantis's new program bipasses the teachers union and any teacher caught straying from the new curriculam is subject to be disciplined and or fired. The new provisions also gives parents back the lawful right to file legal actions against school districts that do not conform to the revised curriculam. The new program encourages parents to become more proactive in their children's education, starting with knowing the teaching curriculam guidelines.
Part 2: Establishing and implementing a new IEP Team, spearheaded by teachers and or counselors with psychology backgrounds and establishing both the rules for transitioning students and an individual program designed to help them, not to hold them back. Not many realize that suicide is the second leading cause of death among teens and young adults in the United States. The following numbers are eye-opening and based on a study to assess the connection between gender identity and suicide risk. Researchers examined survey data collected from more than 120,000 youths nationwide. Participants were 15 years old on average, and less than 1 percent of them identified as transgender.
Among other things, the survey asked teens if they had either thought about or tried to kill themselves. Overall, nearly 12 percent of the participants said they had thought about it, but less than half that percentage attempted suicide. 52% of transgender teens who identify as male but were assigned a female gender at birth have attempted suicide at least once. 42% of adolescents who don’t identify exclusively as male or female have at least one prior suicide attempt. About 30 percent of trans female teens who identify as female but have birth certificates that label them as male have tried suicide at least once. Those are alarming numbers and cannot be ignored!
Most of the transgenders surveyed admitted that the reasons they contemplated, or worse yet, tried to commit suicide were based on social issues, mainly peer pressure at school, or community and family based rejection. Facing discrimination, and or victimization basically changed their mindset to perceiving that they do not belong. Governor Desantis said after reading the suveys, "It is critically important that we begin investing in asking why, instead of simply counting how many have commited suicide, especially for designing an effective prevention program." Florida's new IEP for transgenders is geared to prepare them for this before they make their transition. But there are rules and restictions.
⦁ An Individual Education Plan (IEP) team will be assigned to start preparing and assessing the student for the transition process in seventh grade year or when the student reaches the age of 12, whichever occurs first. The IEP Program guidelines are basic and are designed be followed or altered, based on that individual student's specific needs. The teacher or counselor will be required to get to know their participating student on a more personal level, to prepare them for all of the life changes as they transition, help them to deal with ridicule instead of letting them be victimized, to meet with their family if needed or those closest in their lives and most importantly to make an educated assesment of that students commitment and readiness to begin the medical part of their transition. This part of the IEP is designed to prepare the student for the social aspects of transitioning, not the medical. Complete confidentiality will be granted on an individual basis at the students request.
⦁ According to Endocrine Society guidelines, patients who want to begin medical treatment like puberty blockers, hormones or surgery should be old enough to give “informed consent,”. The organization claims consenting age is 16. However, the IEP team will have an operational plan in place that will begin either on the first day of the student’s first year in high school or when he or she attains the age of 14, whichever occurs first. The teacher or counselor will be required to watch over the transitioning student, assessing both the physical and physcological effects of the students medical transitioning treatments and as well as how he or she developes socially. School districts will provide and upkeep a website containing all of the IEP Program guidelines as well as other available program's to help transitioning student. The IEP team leader will also encourage the transitioning student's parents or family to access the school district's high school-level transition services, including career and technical education, collegiate programs and or work training opportunities available to such students after graduating, including how to enroll in them.
⦁ A statement of the student’s intent to pursue a standard high school diploma must document discussion of the process of deferment of a standard high school diploma and a signed statement of the student’s intention to defer the high school diploma, if applicable. The statement includes an agreement that the student agrees not not compete athletically against their gender's cisgender classmates.
⦁ Similar counseling will also be provided for non-transitioning students that have LGBTQ sexual preferences and are struggling socially. Counseling will be given strictly on a volunteer basis and confidentiality will also be granted as per the individual's needs or request.
Now really, is that so bad? Personally I think its a responsible way of helping transgenders, both in making their gender identity transitions, as well as making sure they have the proper education and social stability to make their gender transition from high school to the collegiate level or to start their adult life. Yet the liberals are livid, calling the changes "anti - LGBTQ". In fact, 2 days ago — The Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors voted to ban official travel to Florida in protest of the Sunshine State's so-called "Don't Say Gay" law. In the meantime, the rate of suicidal tendancies for transitioning teens in LA will keep going up, because they don't have any LGBTQ or individual transgender programs for students who need help.
I get so sick of hearing from LGBTQ people of how racist I am for being conservative or what a traitor I am to our community! In reality, most of you really dont know what your democratic elected politician really does when he or she is not campaigning for your vote. All the democrats really care about is staying in power. They get your vote by keeping us divided, convincing both the LGBTQ community and minority races, that conservatives are racist and homophobic. But ask yourself, what have they really did for the LGBTQ Community besides talk and promise things? Typical liberals, they bitch about gender and racial problems but they never put forth any effort to implement real change or solutions to those issues. In fact, most far left liberals would rather keep you angry with those issues, its their way of controlling you and most importantly, getting your vote. With transgender teen suicide rates so alarmingly high, dont you think a preventative individual program like this is needed?
My point was Parents who teach their parents about legit rights can teach their kids it’s OKAY to bully lgbtq+ children and by your statements the school has no right to educate against it. I don’t know what goes on behind other peoples doors. Nor do you. So you have no clue as to weather or not parents are educated on lgbtq+ Issues. Just because you have a couple of friends that say they are doesn’t mean squat. Until you have surveys with results that can be reproduced to a tea. You can’t sit there and say that you know parents are educated enough to teach about lgbtq+ rights. Our education curriculum is forever changing they aren’t changing the same things they were teaching 5 years ago. I do however have a younger sister who’s a preteen and is already talking with her friends about sexuality. She is heavily monitored on the internet and only has access to it at home. I do know her school has no teachings of any lgbtq+ issues, and when I sit down and talk with her she learns it from her friends. Her friends who have older siblings and teach them things.
This is only as big of an issue as you make it. I was a teen who was disowned by a parent from coming out of closet at 16 there was no access to any LGBTQ+ resources or education. I fear for her if she is gay and comes out because my mother is uneducated on anything lgbtq+ and will most likely disown her as well. The safest place for her to gain resources and knowledge would be the school.
My wife also thought about suicide when she had no one to turn to
It is Joan that thinks all parents teach equality and justice not myself not Ninja from what I’ve read.
The links posted are from the study you mentioned way up there but since they don’t say what you want they are false
You get your news about lgbt from fake headlines not real life that has become obvious.
Also way up there you said you was never attracted to men, if that is true then you did not choose to be gay.
The fact of the matter is this, suicide rates for transitioning students are alarmingly high, and instead of just counting the stats, like liberals do, some conservative states like Florida are implementing preventitive programs. Liberals have one thing down to a science, they know how to bitch about racial issues, including gender identity, but they do not ever seem interested in looking for a solution.
Protesting has become the only thing the liberals ever do, look at Black Lives Matter, whose co-founder just bought a 6 million dollar mansion in California, the fourth property she has bought since their debut, burning down Fergeson, MO in the Mike Brown, hands up, dont shoot protests. Do you think BLM cares about black people, or are they just there to take advantage and enrich themselves by exploiting racial issues? BLM took in 190 Million in donations alone during the George Floyd protests, and for what? To burn down cities? If BLM was really concerned about black lives, they would have taken that money and invested it into the betterment of rural areas, like Chicago's south side, where the black on black murder rate is thru the roof! Do those black lives matter? Or does it only matter if you are black and shot by a white police officer?
How about your elected democrats? Do they care about racial issues or the LGBTQ? They claim they do, they protest and exploit racial and gender identity issues, but actions speak louder than words. President Biden as a senator led the democrats and sponsered The Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) (Pub.L. 104–199, 110 Stat. 2419, enacted by President Clinton on September 21, 1996, 1 U.S.C. § 7 and 28 U.S.C. § 1738C). This law is still partially in effect and it's main purpose was to define marriage for federal marital benefit purposes as the union of one man and one woman. Furthermore it allows states to refuse to recognize same-sex marriages and to deny certain federally funded marital benifits and programs for same sex spouses, even if those federal funded programs are granted under the laws of other states. This federal law still is in force controlling same sex marital federal benefits, although Section 3 of the Act was struck down and deemed unconstitutional by the Supreme Court in 2013 (United States v. Windsor). Basically, if you want federal benefits for your same sex spouse, an you work for the federal government, you are in for a fight still. The democrats claim they care about us, but in reality, if they did, DOMA would be repealed in its entirety and same sex marital rights would be lawfully recognized on a federal level.
Lets face it, The Democrats only care about two things, power and money, and they will lie to you, cheat in elections and do anything to remain in power. If you can't see that, then they have you brainwashed too. Hear their anti-America rhetoric enough and you begin to believe it, brainwashed! The fake news and censoring social media is turning Americans into thoughtless sheep, and I am sick of being called racist and anti-LGBTQ for not following in their brainwashed flock! I am a lesbian that choses to think fior herself! Deal with it!
I tell this story because I truly believe that every gay person, both male or female remembers when they first knew they were attracted to the same sex. We all probably even have stories like mine involving our first feelings of same sex attraction, and the effects it had on us sexually. I do remember how confused I really was about how different I felt. Having both an older sister and brother that were dating opposite sex even before I developed sexual thoughts or tendancies made it harder for me to accept that I was truly different. But as I started to mature, I began to grasp my sexual preference and knew that I wanted to be different. Now I relish in it, I have an awesome girl friend who I intend to marry and my family not only accpets it, but they think of Emma as family now (I think my mom likes her more than me sometimes, haha).
Regarding genetic or preferences, unfortunately I know much more about the law and politics than I do about medical and physcological sciences, so I truly cannot say with any certainty whether i was born gay or it developed inside me as I matured. I too have read studies about the genetic differences there may or may not be between gay people and straight, but I honestly never invested too much thought into all of that as its beyond my understanding. The only thing that I know is that my sexual preference is females only and for me, thats never going to change.
I believe the notion of "the choice to be gay" stems from the human compulsion to control and establish a hierarchy. Anything outside of the established norm is considered the "other" and is often excluded or even persecuted, which ties in beautifully with the controlling and oppressive nature of organized religion (often cited as an excuse to persecute homosexuals).
But I digress. Sorry so long.