What do you think about genderfluid people? (Page 21)

MsEcho_Yup
MsEcho_Yup: Whining about my source? Oh my. I will never convince you of anything, no matter what source I would offer. You enjoy your view, I guess because it makes you feel superior? I don't know. I was not originally talking to you as an individual anyway. My statement was for a open minded person who might happen upon this thread. I have a knowledge of this subject, that I shared. You are not that person. Enjoy your views. I just hope that no one close to you is trans. It would not be pleasant for them. As for me, I'm done with you. The conversation would go nowhere. CBN OMG!! lol
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laffer80
laffer80: First…

“Whining about my source? Oh my”

This is literally your first comment to me: “You quote CBN as a news source and speak of others talking nonsense? OMG”

I guess you know whining about sources. 😂😂😂. And just to make sure we know you are an expert at it, your final comment to me was “CBN OMG!! lol”

So, you sandwich your “whining” complaints between 2 “whines”. 😂😂😂

What a whiner….
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laffer80
laffer80: Second…

I asked about this quote by you “Apparently it was the girl who choice the girls room as the location.” Running from the discussion certainly allows you avoid having to explain what this has to do with anything. It is a wise choice i think because it seems to me it is an indefensible comment. It’s almost like you are blaming the rape victim.
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laffer80
laffer80: Third…

“I will never convince you of anything.”

You could convince me of something. You just need to make a point that makes sense.

If you will never convince me of anything i suggest that’s because you’re in way over your head and you don’t have the ability to make your case.
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laffer80
laffer80: Fourth…

“I guess because it makes you feel superior?”

I guess i am making you feel inferior?

If so, sorry about that. It was unintentional.
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MsEcho_Yup
MsEcho_Yup: Okay, I'll give you one more answer for your crusade. Your whole premise was that this case proves that trans people enter bathrooms to cause harm to women. The fact that it was the girl who chose the bathroom not this guy, totally blows away this example you offered to prove your theory. I asked for other examples that this is a trend of hostile trans women in bathrooms. Crickets! Ya got nuttin right? I've talked to folks like you before. If I answer a question and it turns out you were wrong, you would never admit it, you just shift the ground to avoid. I never said the rape didn't happen, you made that up. As for feeling inferior to you, I try to help people, I work with people with disabilities, I respect people who aren't typical in our society. I'm not wonderful, but I try to be kind. I'm okay with me. You have an agenda it seems, to belittle and hurt people. I don't wish you harm, but I have no problem pointing out that you are working with prejudice not knowledge of this topic. I'll return to those roots now and wish you a good night and a happy holiday.

PS I forgot this. She chose the meeting place with someone she had been with before. No one is asking to be raped she wasn't.. Your thought that I was almost blaming her is absolutely a ridiculous comment.) I hope any on lookers see how crazy my friends arguments tend to get. And I'm done!
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laffer80
laffer80: Oops. An interjection from the one who says she is done.

I’ll interject this…

“Okay, I'll give you one more answer for your crusade. Your whole premise was that this case proves that trans people enter bathrooms to cause harm to women.”

That was never my premise. No need to offer examples of it.

My premise, actually, is that women are vulnerable to rape as it is. Inviting men into women’s bathrooms only makes it easier for rapists to isolate their victims. I don’t think that can be denied. I am concerned about and advocating for…. women!

A rapist can easily pretend to be trans to gain access to women’s bathrooms. I don’t know how anyone could deny this. In this case, in fact, the rapist wore a skirt into the girl’s bathroom. I know because your NY Times article (which i found on my own - you’re welcome) admitted “The boy was indeed wearing a skirt”.

Whether he was trans or not is immaterial to me. Whether the bathroom policy allowed transgenders at the time or not is immaterial to me. Whether he was invited in is immaterial to me. None of that negates that the policy allows men into girl’s bathrooms.

The policy makes it easier for rapists to rape girls in bathrooms. Girls should be protected. The fact that a girl was raped in the bathroom AND THEN THEY CHANGED THE POLICY to allow men into girl’s bathrooms is, to me, even WORSE than if they changed the policy before the rape.

And then there is … “I've talked to folks like you before.”. Prejudicial. You attribute opinions to me i did not state and do not hold. You have no idea who i am or what my agenda is. (Truth is my agenda.)

I have not said a negative word about you personally or about your motives or agenda. I merely thought your initial post was nonsensical in many ways. I still do. I was stating my personal opinion about YOUR COMMENTS. It may be a harsh assessment and opinion but it was not meant to be belittling or hurtful. I apologize.

Do me a favor. Really be done this time. Lol. Your constant misrepresentation of me and my beliefs is tiresome. I’d much rather defend my true beliefs than your mischaracterizations of them. Thanks. 😊

As for your other…. Ummm.. deeply held comments…. I guess I’ll just let them go. 😉

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laffer80
laffer80: Fifth…

Ah, forget it….
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Alice Fena
Alice Fena: Hello my name is Alice Fena i am a transgender woman i went into i dare to share a secret room and told them how my girlfriend just cheated on me they know im a transgender woman so i think this was a attack on transgender people because my exact words where my girlfriend cheated on me should i cheat on her with the same man the leader or mods someone name tom a mod as well said yes and so did a female mod i flick back to my phone and i contacted the man who cheated with my wife and i know him from facebook i talked him into cheating on my wife like she did to me so i flick back to wireclub and my exact words where i did it ill be cheating on my wife then i said im probly going to hell then someone asked why then i repeated my self im going to cheat on my wife because she cheated on me now im already morning from my wife cheating on me so if anything i should get emotional support, but no after they tell me to cheat on my wife because she cheated on me what do you think happend...... they kicked me from the room so i contact support i sent help request to wireclub directly i came out to my girlfriend about the whole thing and we both agree we should report that room immediately because thats not something a room should promote in the first place. but me and my wife have seen some discusting things said in this secret room that go way past rule regulations my comment was a question when people talk about there genitals boobs etc. etc. so in my opinion this room is extremely transfobic and toxic i personally dont know why wireclub support this room they should be evaluated immediately and reassigned new mods for protection of others, i understand people will not like this comment but im just looking out for others who might be in a similar situation me and my wife think this is a form of bullying or transfobic also abuse and people running this room should be removed immediately so again i would greatly appreciate someone passing this info on thanks for taking the time to read this have a wonderful holiday!
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laffer80
laffer80: Hi alice. Sorry for your troubles, in your life and on wire.

In my opinion, regarding wire, the reality is…. The people who run Wire try to NOT get involved. Mods are allowed to do as they please, it’s their room. They can boot you from a room for no reason at all, or simply because they suck. I imagine this has happened to most of us, me included. The host/mod may have been transphobic, no way for me to know. But it might just have been a bad mod.

As for your personal troubles, i won’t get into it here. Too public. If interested in a different opinion, feel free to pm.

Good luck. ❤️
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Alice Fena
Alice Fena: Thanks for such a nice reply and I agree with you completely I appreciate the honesty and your opinion is perfect, I really shouldn't share my personal life some times I just don't think and need some people to talk to. I get you completely and I will take your words into consideration, thank you and I hope you have a wonderful holiday 🙂
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laffer80
laffer80: You as well. Merry Christmas. 🙏🎅🏻
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