Science and history proves the Bible is fictional (Page 33)

happensnow88
happensnow88: Comrad harplycus 47 might be too prejudiced to investigate the area in Western China that fits a physical resemblance to a localized Noah's ark type story.
As for a mythological text, Most churches have made the Bible into just that.
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harpalycus47
harpalycus47: Prejudice is easy to say. It so happens that I am actually wearing a T shirt that says
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Carl Sagan.
It fits well in both senses.

You have made the classic move, concentrating on a peripheral matter that has no importance at all. And, making it worse, I have said nothing at all about an inundation in China. It is of no interest unless you have evidence. Showing that a local area is consistent with a local story is scarcely earth shattering.

This allows it to look like you are providing some degree of argument. Which you are not, because what you have NOT done is attempted to meet the major criticism that an omniscient God would not need to put people to the test, as your 'theory' requires.

Nor have you produced a scrap of evidence for your contentions..

You produce real evidence and provide a coherent argument and I'll listen.

Just waffle and I will regard it as the usual nonsense.
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BelgianStrider
BelgianStrider: "
happensnow88: Thanks for the Scriptures against race mixing; And the Creator is a racist. He does not want His flowers to pollinate other varieties and end up with just grey or brown flowers. (Edited by happensnow88)"

is at the same level of immorality as defending genocides because it was a devine command

AAAAAAAND YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT GENETICS IMBECILE "grey or brown flowers"

MOREOVER: GENETIC DRIFT "PROVES" WE ALL ORIGINATED FROM AFRICA, MORON !!!!!!
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BelgianStrider
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happensnow88
happensnow88:
Some folks have trouble reading and comprehending an important thought/idea/logic in the writing. The main point in the Noah Ark story is that the Sons of Adam were race mixing and had lost their value as a special race, so they were killed off. The same thing applied to various types of animals over the eons of organizing life on Earth. Each form of life has a purpose and sometimes that purpose is temporary in order to make important changes.

When the stupid Yankees wiped out the Carrier Pigeons, I doubt it was an improvement. When Yanks abolished marijuana crops, to enrich Dupont's synthetic fiber business, it was not a value added action. It was a degradation. I once saw a Summons posted in the Los Angeles Federal Court House where USA was suing a House. Yes, the house was the defendant!
How can a house answer such a lie?
USA is built on lies, and has been devolving since George Washington.

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happensnow88
happensnow88: Noah was perfect in His Generations/Genetics. Those who perished in that flood had ruined their genetic value.
Any way, if folks want to ignore the Noah story and the important logic therein, Go ahead. I am not arguing that anyone must believe Noah's testimony. Everyone is free to view the issue any way they want. Same goes for everything else in the Bible, especially since it has been much doctored up at various times in the past, right up to the present.
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happensnow88
happensnow88: As for defending "Genocide", depending on the definition of that word, USA has been defending and conducting mass tortures and slaughters for a few hundred years right up to this moment. The Vatican loved doing that sort of stuff too; And so did many "Protest Ant" churches.
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happensnow88
happensnow88: Some of You guys can be thankfull as it appears I have cast pearls before swine. No more.
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BelgianStrider
BelgianStrider: https://www.livescience.com/human-behavior/religion/did-noahs-flood-really-happen
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BelgianStrider
BelgianStrider: https://www.livescience.com/minimum-people-to-survive-apocalypse.html
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harpalycus47
harpalycus47: Not a scrap of evidence. Quelle surprise.
We prejudiced swine are just not interested in your pearls.
Sorry.
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BelgianStrider
BelgianStrider: I am also a prejudiced swine without any interest in your so called "pearls"


Many have also that position:
you have not a scrap of evidence. And thinking, after a while, the same thing "Quelle surprise" !!!

You are just an uneducated imbecile, unable to learn the slightest thing !!!

You just can do this:


and propagate this:
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Rick Prime
Rick Prime: Noah/Gilgamesh


Gilgamesh's supposed historical reign is believed to have been approximately 2700 BC,[2] shortly before the earliest known written stories. The discovery of artifacts associated with Aga and Enmebaragesi of Kish, two other kings named in the stories, has lent credibility to the historical existence of Gilgamesh.[3]

The earliest Sumerian Gilgamesh poems date from as early as the Third dynasty of Ur (2100–2000 BC).[4] One of these poems mentions Gilgamesh’s journey to meet the flood hero, as well as a short version of the flood story.[5] The earliest Akkadian versions of the unified epic are dated to ca. 2000–1500 BC.[6] Due to the fragmentary nature of these Old Babylonian versions, it is unclear whether they included an expanded account of the flood myth; although one fragment definitely includes the story of Gilgamesh's journey to meet Utnapishtim. The "standard" Akkadian version included a long version of the story and was edited by Sin-liqe-unninni,[7] who lived sometime between 1300 and 1000 BC.


Genesis

A global flood as described in this myth is inconsistent with the physical findings of geology, archeology, paleontology, and the global distribution of species.[8][9][10] A branch of creationism known as flood geology is a pseudoscientific attempt to argue that such a global flood actually occurred.[11] Some Christians have preferred to interpret the narrative as describing a local flood, instead of a global event.


The story of the flood occurs in chapters 6–9 of the Book of Genesis, the first book of the Bible. Ten generations after the creation of Adam, God saw that the earth was corrupt and filled with violence, and he decided to destroy what he had created. But God found one righteous man, Noah, and to him he confided his intention: "I am about to bring on the Flood ... to eliminate everywhere all flesh in which there is the breath of life ... ." So God instructed him to build an ark (in Hebrew, a chest or box), and Noah entered the Ark in his six hundredth year [of life], and on the 17th day of the usecond month of that year "the fountains of the Great Deep burst apart and the floodgates of heaven broke open" and rain fell for forty days and forty nights until the highest mountains were covered to a depth of 15 cubits, and all life perished except Noah and those with him in the Ark. After 150 days, "God remembered Noah ... and the waters subsided" until the Ark rested on the mountains of Ararat, and on the 27th day of the second month of Noah's six hundred and first year the earth was dry. Then Noah built an altar and made a sacrifice, and God made a covenant with Noah that man would be allowed to eat every living thing but not its blood, and that God would never again destroy all life by a



History

In November 1872, a self-taught historian named George Smith toiled away in the archives of the British Museum sorting through fragments of clay tablets recovered from ancient Mesopotamian archeological sites in modern-day Iraq. The tablets were written in cuneiform — a language that had only recently been recovered and translated after 1,000 years of obscurity — and most of the fragments contained humdrum accounting records or opaque prophecies from palace priests.

But then Smith found something remarkable. As he translated the cuneiform word by word, a familiar story unfolded. There was a god punishing humanity with a catastrophic flood, one man who was chosen to survive using a specially constructed boat filled with animals and seeds, and after the flood, birds being released to find dry land.


This wasn't the story of Noah and the ark, though, and this wasn't the book of Genesis in the Hebrew Bible (known to Christians as the Old Testament). What Smith had discovered was only one chapter in a sprawling Mesopotamian tale now known as the Epic of Gilgamesh, first written in 1,800 B.C.E., around 1,000 years before the Hebrew Bible.

"The Epic of Gilgamesh is the oldest tragic epic for which we have evidence," says Louise Pryke, an honorary research associate at the University of Sydney and author of "Gilgamesh," a deep analysis of the text and its influences on later works, from the Bible to Homer's "Odyssey." "It's something that's come to represent ancient Mesopotamia in modern culture."

When Smith first made the connection between the two flood stories in Gilgamesh and Genesis, legend says that he became so excited that he danced around the room removing his clothes. Smith's discovery shook the foundations of biblical scholarship by proposing that some, if not all, of the Hebrew Bible was borrowed from neighboring civilizations.
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happensnow88
happensnow88: There have been many big floods recorded in the region of Babylon.
There never was a "Hebrew Bible"; That language was created much later and was a trick language for lawyers.
As for the world flood delusions, Genesis 6:7, Yahuah said, "I destroy Adam"
Those were Adamites, offspring of Adam, also called sons (ben) of Elohim. Since the word Adam is not well defined in this story, it causes confusion as to who was who; And how big the flood really was.
If it was really world wide, most critters would have been wiped out.; And to suppose that Noah took a pair of all types of animals on Earth, is really stretching the story.
More likely idea is that Noah took useful domestic animals to allow for a smooth transition to normal life.

Despite the confusion caused by "perfect" in His generations, the word perfect is TAMimym, meaning: entire, integrity, Truth, complete, no blemish, without spot, undefiled, whole, sound, perfect, Noah's genetics/breeding were being described, even though later at least one of His sons was a bit strange.
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harpalycus47
harpalycus47: I just love the phrase ' stretching the story'. That's truly wonderful.
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BelgianStrider
BelgianStrider: We can wonder who is stretching the story of a well known biblical myth into his complete own interpretation to come up with perfect (devine ) races - and the extinction of the mixed races by an undeniable racist abrahamic deity - with the undeniable objective of defending xenophobia and racism !!!!

Again: it is just the same stupid inane indoctrinated game of "you should not have any opinion about the morality of that fictional perfect abrahamic deity, you can't understand him and all what he does is rightuous " ( everyone who swallows this without any question are just indoctrinated IMBECILES )

Finally, the most funny part of it is this:




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BelgianStrider
BelgianStrider: The biblical flood NEVER HAPPENED !!!!

Geology gave all kind of evidence for that !!!!

All the types of possible floodgeology has been debunked and proven anti-scientific pseudoscience !!!!

Moreover:
- there is a little physical problem in the discipline of thermodynamics if the global flood myth had the slightest truth !!!!



So, stretch the story in all the possible ways you prefer: it will be just pure anti-science B.S. !!!!
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happensnow88
happensnow88: Nice Joke,Rick Prime: "God made a covenant with Noah that man would be allowed to eat every living thing but not its blood,"
There is no "God", and If You want to eat bad stuff, go ahead and enjoy the destruction of Your health and body.
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Rick Prime
Rick Prime: Blood is the tastiest part of a meal. Preferably warm and runny. Black pudding, anyone?
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harpalycus47
harpalycus47: Sometimes I can't resist. So God made a poison and put it in animal bodies. Well, yes, of course, makes perfect sense. Lions are well known for poor health and as for mosquitos and ticks....
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Rick Prime
Rick Prime: that is possibly why fruit flies have not yet evolved hands. It's all that poison.
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happensnow88
happensnow88: Most folks suppose/assume that the Bible is written for everyone.
It was written for only 1 race: The Sons of Yacob, and there are curses on them to boot.
The other races have their own destinies, customs and idealogies.
Yet some folks figure they have to cram their stuff down everyone else's throat.
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BelgianStrider
BelgianStrider: Define "the sons of yacob"

How can we be sure what you claim has any support?

"𝐈𝐭 𝐡𝐚𝐬 𝐭𝐨 𝐛𝐞 𝐬𝐨, 𝐛𝐞𝐜𝐚𝐮𝐬𝐞 𝐈 𝐬𝐚𝐲 𝐬𝐨" is an unsupported indefensible speculation, on top of that mostly 𝐅𝐀𝐋𝐒𝐄, that NO ONE needs to BELIEVE !!!

This also applies to that very old book, called the talmud aka bible !!!!
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