Science and history proves the Bible is fictional (Page 4)

happensnow88
happensnow88: Thanks for connecting "I" with "J". That is how the "J" was initially inserted into European lingos.
Another aspect is the word Jesus, pronounced Geesus from the Greek spelling Γεσυσ, or Γησυσ , which when broken down basically means un-faithful seducing pig.
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Rick Prime
Rick Prime: I, though being an earlier form of j, in classical Latin was pronounced H. For example, the congratulationary cry; hip hip hooray, was originally a crusader war cry: hep hep hoorah, HEP being an acronym; Herusalem Est Perdita - Jerusalem has fallen. Hesus Jesus, holly good!
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BelgianStrider
BelgianStrider: Bing: Original name of Jesus

"Certainly! The original name of Jesus in Hebrew was “Yeshua”, which translates to English as “Joshua”. Over time, this name evolved through various transliterations: from Hebrew “Yeshua” to Greek “Iēsous”, then to Latin “Iesus”, and finally to the form we know today as "Jesus"1. Archaeologists have even found the name “Yeshua” carved into burial caves in Israel, dating from the time when Jesus of Nazareth would have been alive1. So, while we commonly refer to him as Jesus, his original name was indeed “Yeshua”. If you’d like to learn more, you can watch this fascinating episode on the origin of Jesus’ real name2. 🙌🕊️

Learn more

1 allthatsinteresting.com
2 pbs.org
3en.wikipedia.org"

"The original name of Jesus has its roots in Hebrew and Aramaic. During the time of Jesus, His name was Yeshua in Aramaic and Yehoshua in Hebrew. Both names carry significant meaning: Yeshua means “God saves,” emphasizing His role as a savior12. The Greek transliteration of His name is Iesous, which later evolved into the Latin form Iesus and eventually became the English spelling Jesus1. So, while we commonly refer to Him as Jesus, His original name reflects His mission of salvation. 🙏

Learn more

1 christianpure.com
2 thewitness.org
3 catholicity.com
4 thelineoffire.org"

"Yeshua
Key takeaways:

Jesus' real name in Hebrew is "Yeshua," meaning "Yahweh is salvation."
The Greek translation of "Yeshua" is "Iēsous," and in English, it is "Jesus."
The variations in the name across different languages reflect transliterations from Hebrew to Greek to English, while maintaining the meaning of salvation and deliverance.
The Real Name of Jesus: What Was He Really Called?
www.christianpure.com/learn/real-name-of-jesus
www.christianpure.com/learn/real-name-of-jesus"

So it certainly never meant "un-faithful seducing pig." if I can well interprete your sayings

When will you ever tell us something with the slightest sense of basical correctness !!!!
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BelgianStrider
BelgianStrider: As I never deepened myself in the etymology of the letters and my knowledge about it is just completely basical: I can't confirm nor disclaim that "H" was used before the "I" I don't know, and it is GOOD to be able to say "I don't know everything" and I can admit that !!!

After all: pretending that "J" was used only 500 years ago and had an impact on the interpretation and the historical correctness of the bible is the same as saying "as the bumblebee is not 'designed' to fly it has an impact on aerodynamics "
Complete nonsense of course !!!
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Rick Prime
Rick Prime: all of it is nonsense. The Bible is mythological nonsense. God is nonsense. Jesus' original name was "Nonsense" that translates to English as "Mythological gibberish".
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happensnow88
happensnow88: Thanks Rick Prime for noticing that the popularity of Geesus has turned Christendom into "mythological gibberish"; And, not only that, but has tricked Christians into slandering the King of His Universe everytime they say Geesus.

They completely ignore the real Historical names and the meanings there of.
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BelgianStrider
BelgianStrider: Well till now happensnow88: you blatantly FAILED to give US something REALLY historical with EVIDENCE !!!!

Till now we "enjoyed" to read only such things:


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BelgianStrider
BelgianStrider: Even me, far from being an expert, realized immediately that all your inputs have just been pure 🐮
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happensnow88
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BelgianStrider
BelgianStrider: Yay

Again one moron more: willing to dispute scientifical FACTS as undeniable evidence !!!

Oh by the way: MOSTLY, the "idiot(s)" that DE FACTO do the cross examination of the other "idiot" called "Federal Prosecutor" is (are) the attornay(s) of the defendant(s) !!!!
DID YOU NEVER OBSERVE THAT UNDENIABLE EVIDENCE IN ANY COURT ????????

EVEN WITHIN THE MOST SPOKEN ONES: THOSE OF trumpie trump with his "army of attornays" (who never will get payed ) defending that narcisistic imbecile ????

I really have GREAT DOUBTS YOU EVER HAVE BEEN A MEMBER of a Federal Grand Jury and if you ever have been, I presume you did like trumpie trump : "SLEEPING" !!!!
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BelgianStrider
BelgianStrider: manmanman: the waterfall of inanities will never stop with you !!!!
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Corwin
Corwin: RE: "I was on a Federal Grand Jury that was very much like Thou. They never cross examined the Federal prosecutors, and said,We want to give the accused his day in court. I told them that the biggest criminals in that courtroom were them. "


So... tell us more... what would have happened if they HAD cross examined the Federal prosecutors?

I find this interesting, and will be eating popcorn.
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Corwin
Corwin: Does anybody else actually make sense of that?

C'mon, Bobby... we can all have fun with this guy... he makes NO sense whatsoever.
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Corwin
Corwin: Happensnow88: "BLAAH BLAH BLAH BLAH!!"

This is way funnier than your material, Bobby.
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BelgianStrider
BelgianStrider: bs is factually boring with all his same endless repetitive debunked material
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Rick Prime
Rick Prime: He’s fun to wind up tho
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happensnow88
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happensnow88
happensnow88: Geesus from the Greek spelling Γεσυσ, or Γησυσ , which when broken down basically means un-faithful seducing pig. This was posted previously and proves the matter. It is very close to how the Edomite Pharisees viewed the matter.
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BelgianStrider
BelgianStrider: We can't deny that in that time in the Roman Empire, Greek was the used language amongst the ELITE : after all the "tu quoque mi fili" was expressed with a certain degree of certainty in Greek by julius !!!!

THOUGH: as yeshua was just a son of a carpenter pretending to be the king of Judea ... I think that the Greeks in Greece ever had any idea what he really was at the time of his crucifixion !!!!

NOW:
When the original word used in any original language means "the savior" ...
NONE of the possible translations that MIGHT MEAN "he is a pig" will overcome the ORIGINAL MEANING ..."he is the savior"

That specific topic in SCIENCE is called ETIMOLOGY aka "the study of the origin of words and their MEANINGS"
One of the best known etimological origins of the French word "monsieur" is "mon seigneur"
which factually means "My Lord" !!!
The British word "sir" comes from the French word "Sire" what was EXCLUSIVELY used for the KING !!!!
Moreover: the semantic understanding of the word "wench" changed too with the time !!!
Do you want references, it will be a delight for me to provide them !!!

BUT:
AGAIN you just provide us some assumptions with some Greek orthography that you might be right !!!
NO MATE: that's not how EVIDENCE to support your claim works !!!!

You definitively need to do better than that !!!!!!!

It is at the same lame level of "J" is only 500 years old !!!
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BelgianStrider
BelgianStrider: "...
This was posted previously and proves the matter. It is very close to how the Edomite Pharisees viewed the matter."

It proved NOTHING and where are the UNDENIABLE HISTORICAL evidence and references about the "Edomite Pharisees" viewpoints ???? DO YOU HAVE ANY !!!
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BelgianStrider
BelgianStrider: Yahweh saves
The name "Iēsous" is the Greek transliteration of the Hebrew term "Yehoshua" or "Jehoshua," which means "Yahweh saves" or "Yahweh is salvation." It is the name of Jesus in the New Testament12. The English form of the name "Jesus" is derived from the Latin "Iēsus," which comes from the Greek "Ἰησοῦς"3.
Learn more:
1Strong's Greek: 2424. Ἰησοῦς (Iésous) -- Jesu…
biblehub.com
biblehub.com
2G2424 - iēsous - Strong's Greek Lexicon (kjv)
blueletterbible.org
blueletterbible.org
3Why did Clement of ...

Now compare this "Iésous" in Greek "Ἰησοῦς" with your Greek orthograph " Γεσυσ, or Γησυσ ".

We fucking seem to have again some serious problems with YOUR CREDIBILITY !!!!!
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BelgianStrider
BelgianStrider: Again we have GOOD EVIDENCE you just came up with pure BULLOCKS !!!!
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happensnow88
happensnow88: Most folks use the word Geesus when talking about Bible Stuff. That is how they pronounce the name, which is not Iesus. Geesus is a Greek phrase for unfaithful seducing pig. Anti-Christs should be happy that almost all Christians have been tricked into slandering He who is able to Save.
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BelgianStrider
BelgianStrider: In Greek it is "iésous"
In Dutch "jesus" (pronounced ieesus)

btw in English it is NOT GEESUS but "jesus" (pronounced dzezus)

AAAAAAAND the Greek translation for "unfaithful seducing pig" is "άπιστο σαγηνευτικό γουρούνι" ( pronounced a: ápisto sagineftikó gouroúni )

So AGAIN YOU ARE FAILING with your nonsensical brabbling !!!!
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happensnow88
happensnow88: What is "dzezus"? In english Jeep is GEEP. just like GEESUS. Mr. BelgianStrider, Your Greek phrase is not a single word in any language. But Geesus is a single word that means pretty much what I said it means. As for the Edomite Pharisees et.al., The fact that they slandered and murdered Christ and His followers reveals their hatred.
Furthermore, When YahShua said, "Forgive them for they know not what they do." He was talking about the soldiers who were just following orders. He gave the Pharisees & Sadusees 40 years to repent. After which He sent His Roman Army to wipe out all of those guys, and those like them.
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