Can any supernatural story be scientifically proven ?
GeraldtheGnome: I used to think that religious bias in regards to science was only done by religious people, I was wrong. I saw one video where a non religious man believed that during prehistoric times religion was around. I disagree, I am yet to see or hear that someone can prove that anyone was into a religion before what is known as 10,000 BC. So that leaves me with the possibility that a religion of some sort might be proven to have been around since as far back as 10,000 BC. When do you think the first ever religion started ? I'm asking for when is the earliest scientifically proven date is for the first known religion was. What was the first known religion ?
On the opposing side are some religious people who think everyone one who opposes their religious beliefs believe that something came from nothing supernaturally. Do you think that something came from nothing ?
GeraldtheGnome: How so ? You haven’t showed how so far. You also think that Christianity was always about a god named God. Why do you think I asked Ghostgeek the questions that I did ? Josephus and Tacitus came across a story about someone, that’s different than meeting someone and then writing about that person.
GeraldtheGnome: Here’s something I’ve never told anyone before, It’s better to have Zeffur on than some who I won’t mention. We disagree about things but it’s not a forum for everyone to agree with each other. At least he’s trying, things that are historical records aren’t always scientific records though.
harpalycus47: Josephus's reference is either a complete interpolation or significantly 'doctored' by Christian apologists. Tacitus, over eighty years after the event, confirms merely that Christians exist and that Jesus was crucified by Pontius Pilate. But, as he was in Rome or possibly Anatolia, such information was probably derived from the Christians themselves.
GeraldtheGnome: I hate the word interpolation, I personally prefer the word guess, you however are right though. I’m not a Catholic, in fact my background is Protestant even though I’m no longer religious, anyway I went to Vatican City on a trip. Even though maybe the Pope was in Vatican City and maybe he wasn’t, I did not see him but if I told people that I saw him and they believed me then they’d tell over people that I saw the Pope there. The only things that would be true there is that there is a Pope in Vatican City (even if he wasn’t there at the time), that there is a Vatican City and I went there. That only means that he does exist, Vatican City is a real county (City State), I exist and I went there. Direct confirmed accounts are reliable, claimed unconfirmed accounts are unreliable to the point where at best they are only possible and at worst they false as soon as they have been proven to be false.
Most modern day Christians believe that a certain Jesus did exist, was crucified due to orders by Pontus Pilate, that Jesus was resurrected and that Christians witnessed all of that. The only things known to be true by that belief is that there was a Pontus Pilate who did exist and that there were Christians around back then. The resurrection bit is disproven, the other bits are still to be proven or disproven, sure a certain Jesus may have been crucified on the orders of Pontus Pilate but it’s highly unlikely.
harpalycus47: Sorry, Gerald. I'm confused. Is this question directed to me. In which case I'm afraid I have no idea what the question is. I blame my age.
zecri77: Obviously aimed at me then mr GNOME...mmm?freedom of speech love im not insulting or offending any1 so wats your problem??
GeraldtheGnome: Work on that grammar. For starters there are no examples of freedom of speech where text messages are used. When freedom of expression is used, which is what you should really work out are non audio forms of communication then it is fully acceptable to even offend someone so long as it’s done in a fair manner as it should be on here if anyone wants to offend, however on forums the subject should always be addressed and in a fair manner even when you criticize me and/or anyone else. When that is the case then don’t put anything on here or it will be deleted.
It’s always the self righteous that are concerned about ‘their rights’ and go against the justified rights of others. So either work out that the only one with a problem is you so stop the way off the subject nonsense and your belief that you are the only one who matters or I will continue to delete the crap that you put on here that on the internet is referred to as trolling. It would be best if you apologize but if you don’t then at least do the right thing from now on in every other way. I’m not the one with a problem, you are so grow up or at least go elsewhere.
zecri77: Thank you for being so graceful and i apologise for my manners 😇..how long is being on report my sweet gnome?
GeraldtheGnome: Don’t be smart arse, be on topic and in a fair manner or go away otherwise I’ll delete whatever you come out with next.