Why is the climate changing. (Page 320)

Sir Loin: 88 unfortunately it takes more than just CO2 to feed plants, it's useless to them without sunlight. Many other nutrients are needed too.

Sir Loin: NZ has already introduced carbon credits trading which is making a few elite even wealthier while feeding runaway inflation

Sir Loin: No, I had to dig deep to find the money trail. 80% of credits are owned by trading banks, I doubt they'd be interested in owning land, that would involve work rather than just sitting at a desk.

Fractured fairy tale: Banks Don"t Hold Peoples Morguages Do They In affect Owning the Land Till Its Paid off do they , Coarse Not There Not Interested

Fractured fairy tale: Mabye Billionairs Could Avoid Trading Banks and International Taxes By Shifing there money Around internatinally Through high Roller Accounts at Casino"s
None of Us will Ever know Tho And I Doubt Bill gates and the rest of them will Tell ya

Fractured fairy tale: I Suppose It Would Be a Conspairy Therorist Too Mention what people have been saying for melenia
One Day They Will Figure out a Way Too Tax the Air you Breath

GailNoLastName: Thought I would mention that the Earths orbit around the sun is a bit eccentric, we are farther from the sun now in our summer and closer in our winter for the Norther Hemisphere. The southern hemisphere is facing the opposite situation, This may be one reason its so cold in South America right now.

Sir Loin: Perfectly reasonable assumption Gail given that this will affect solar radiation intensity which is virtually the sole control of climate change. CO2 won't do it

MallyDaKattniss2: happensnow88 Same here at 47° north latitude in WA. July was mostly cool, overcast and a couple days of rain. Rain is good though, the forests need the water👍

Sir Loin: August so a month of winter to go yet farms are full of lambs and calves. My fruit trees are blossoming, spring flowers everywhere and grass is shooting up.. this is unusual

bonzono: "Bozo, are you really as dense as you act or is it just pretend for your troll games?
Of course temp precedes CO2 every time. Even the data you provide show that.
Nowhere has it been proven otherwise"

Yet again, loin shows he's unable to read a graph, or even synthesise data.
Here it is again, for those who'd like a refresher on loin's incompetence.


https://www.carbonbrief.org/explainer-how-the-rise-and-fall-of-co2-levels-influenced-the-ice-ages

See that blue line in that link? That's the CO2
See the red line? That's the temperature.

In any upward change in direction, the blue line ALWAYS precedes the red line.


It's funny, all you do is stomp your foot and pout. waaa, u rong.

welp, soz kid, the data proves you wrong.

yet again.

bonzono: funfact,
most of plimer's income comes from his books where he spreads misinformation about climate change.

He's the guy who thinks loin supports child slavery - because they use a phone.
This is truly the level of intelligence and competence we expect from conspiracy lunatics and denialists.

Unsurprisingly, loin agrees with that unhinged and unqualified nutjob.

bonzono: "Trouble is VT is run by people who have a few mental issues"
This is the reason we have peer review...
....and it's the reason people with mental issues hate peer review.
loin, for example.

Sir Loin: Plimers a professor at Melbourne University but of course Bozo knows better than him. Clauser is a Nobel prize winner and expert in climate change but Bozo knows better than him too. Dave Wratt was head of IPCC and lead scientist for the Antarctic ice core project when he advised me temp precedes CO2 every time but Bozo knows better

bonzono: Plimers is a geologist, not a climate scientist.

He also makes money by pushing the anti-science, anti-climate, rightwing conspiracy line.

and, of course, he also thinks that you, loin, support child slavery.
... so you tell me, do you think you support child slavery?

..or maybe you know better than plimer?



you know you're in a bad way when youre turning to conspiracy lunatics to try to give your claim some leverage.


still exactly zero from you on any of your claims loin - exactly as expected. You're a complete fraud.

Sir Loin: Geology is one of the best records we have for paleoclimates Bozo, surely you know that but if you don't what the hell are you doing on a climate forum?

Sir Loin: Coltan ore is required to produce the alloys needed in modern cellphones and laptops. A lot is mined in DRC by children but this ore is not able to be sold on the open market. There are other sources. China, USA and Tanzania are some

bonzono: Geology is not climate science. you cannot understand the greenhouse effect from geology.
you cannot understand radiative transfer from geology, you cannot understand atmospheric physics from geology.
the only thing plimer can say is comment on the past, not the present - and he doesn't even talk about his geology, his books are packed with comments on the present.

bonzono: "Coltan ore is required ..."

okay, then you agree with plimer that you support child slavery.