Why is the climate changing. (Page 23) The flying Squirrel: So why Isnt the US doing something then UK Sweden are were tried but there supposed to be doing more US is the biggest polluter with China but China are making electric cars . Good luck getting Corporate America on bord or any politician . Its hardly gosts fault The flying Squirrel: Its like Weapons America punps them out by the millions selling them all around the world. Then when there used everyone else is Terrorists . LOL hold them Accountable good luck . I agree tho they should be  theHating: i believe you are talking about the kyoto protocol, apologies if i misspelled kyoto. that was a summit to get developing nations like china to participate in the IPCC policy guidlines, and basically the US said they wouldnt curb emissions unless china and these other countries did the same thing. and what the developing nations argue is that it isnt fair policy because the US pollutes 10x per capita what china does, even with its population being 3 or so times larger. well, the US absolutely refused to agree to that in contempt of taking any meaningful action. so yes, i agree, squirrel, it makes no sense for the US to claim moral authority over developing nations. but at the same time, developing nations still made a promise to curb emissions when they have reached the same levels per capita as the US, so we will see how china acts when this happens. but nevertheless, the US did finally recognize that some action is better than no action, and now we are adopting more moderate policy towards environmental friendly policy to curb emissions and tax incentives for developing renewable clean fuels like bio-diesel and PEM technology for hydrolyzed chemical combustion engines. theHating: but trump has said finally this year that he believes climate change is not a hoax. not sure if he means that or not, given his appointment to the EPA ...  The flying Squirrel: Yeah Its like Trump blaming China for Ripping the US off . I dont reckon there had better policy for a long time . theHating: the point is this; the climate is changing, rapidly. the scenario is that in 20 years, the climate sensitivity will be such that you will need to prepare certain regions for basic supply shortages. by prepare, they mean hedge against risk of loss or depletion of resources like water, energy, and food. furthermore, places that were hospitable to agriculture will not be viable to grow in, in 20 years. droughts will be intensified by a factor of 10, and as averages move up, snow pack lasts only until mid spring, until you lose winter entirely and the forest land begins to suffer from run-off inconsisencies. if it doesnt scare you, you are a psychopath. if you believe it was engineered to scare you, then you just simply do not understand the science and you are seriously risking your own life by not taking even baby steps to transition and adapt with a rapidly warming planet. theHating: an analogy: the science claims the saharan desert is very hot and very dry. do you criticize him for ideology or do you bring water and say, breathable clothing? please excuse me for my piss-poor analogies. The flying Squirrel: No the dact is this they said that 20years ago . So what how is making people pay more for Electricity supposed to do anything. Man kind is So Arrogant. Or is it Americankind lol The flying Squirrel: No its mot spific to America they came up with it then winge its every other country doing it .all the while they do nothing. What do we blame Russia again  zeffur: Climate change is a complex subject--there seems to be many factors involved. Solar activity is one of the major factors. Greater solar activity leads to higher max temps, more ice melting, greater evaporation, cooling in some areas more than others areas as weather patterns shift, & greater rainfall & increased temporary flooding. It can also lead to some areas experiencing persistent & permanent flooding. Human activity seems to be playing a major role as well. Since ~1976 there has been an increased trend in warming. Some factors are greater fossil fuel consumption, major conversion of land from natural forms into farms, habitat (for humans & animals) developments, etc. This changes the natural composition of our atmosphere in major ways, which leads to the belief in a greater than normal green-house like affect on earth. src: https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/ContentWOC/images/decadaltemp/graph_gis_2014.png https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/world-of-change/DecadalTemp How much each factor contributes to such changes is hotly debated. If mankind would make graphene energy storage systems & solar & wind energy production (where it makes sense) a higher priority, then we could see within 1 decade how much fossil fuel consumption affects climate change. (Edited by zeffur) The flying Squirrel: Why pick 1976. Is it Coincidence that the Opec oil embargo was in 1973 . Again back to unrestrained capitalism and Consumption. Thats what they should rein in Angry Beaver: Wish they'd just sod off and leave Australia out of it, we contribute neglibly to carbon, 0.03% yet the alarmist greenies are ruining our country by insisting on daft green energy... we could stop all carbon emissions and make fuck all difference to the total! I'm all for nuclear, we have huge reserves of uranium after all The flying Squirrel: Yeah But Nuclear Is hardly green or non Poulting the waste lasts forever and its just as expencive as Coal,, were got more sun than any one else all year round , If the Techknolgy is getting there thats cool , But yeah I wish they would leave us alone , No more rufugges  The Big Brother County Has to Pull there head in , No use Creating More Havoic The flying Squirrel: Mabye but whay Is Germany fazing it out , Ever Nucler country is , it creates more problems than what its worth , despite what that Alex says were only got 1 reactor for Nuclear icotopes | Science Chat Room Similar Conversations |