Why is the climate changing. (Page 180)

ghostgeek
ghostgeek: I'm sure the world can do without candle warmers if there's an environmental crisis coming over the horizon.
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Fractured fairy tale: Yep That's Right The people who Complain about it Most Sit In Air Conditioned Offices all Day
Like That John Kerry Said , What me Give up My Private Jet , But I need it too Fly Too Sweden Too Pick Up My enviromental Award
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Certainly Cut through Those new Estates , At One Time it would of all been farm land and would never Make the news
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wJust_woW: It destroying electric cables..😨looks like Hollywood movies😮
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Fractured fairy tale: Twister LOL
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kittybobo34
kittybobo34: It's pretty scary if you're in one. Amazing how much damage can happen so quickly.
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Fractured fairy tale: Yep Life is Full of Scarey moments ,Its the Luck of the draw Houses across the street Prolly went touched
Its Like people who Swim In the ocean every Day knowing there Sharks in there that Could Bite you In Half , Then One day It Happens too them
Then Your Got 2 Sets of People Oh my Gosh Thats Terable Kill All Sharks immedetly
Then Your got people Who go Hang on He Knew The Risks and Did it any way Because he Accepted the Risks
its like a Virises Every Year Theres Virises that kill Old people people with underlying health conditions its Nothing New ,
Some People gooh My Gosh Thats terrable Every one must get Vaccinated immedetly Must Stop all death , Then Theres other People Who Inform themselves of the Risks And Will Accept them

No One Is arguing The Climate Hasen't Changed in The Past Its Wether Its Man Made or Not ,
Spending Trillions and Trillions On Supposedly Lowering The Worlds Climate by 2 degrees is a Fools Erin , The Money Would Be Way better off Spent On Reducing Pollution and looking After the Plannet
But the People Who Virtue Signal Always win Out
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Fractured fairy tale: In NZ The Head Climate Change er goes all the places Built on the Coast are Gonna go Under in a Few decades , Then he goes ive Collected ice cores too Prove what every one knew Already Then he Goes Ive Also Studied the Land and being on the rim of that Runs around the earth The Land Is Sinking Into the ocean Every Year through movement of the Techtonic plates
So In Affect he Has Proved Absolutly nothing , You Could Design a big Narative around Either
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: The first iron rule of American politics is: Follow the money. This explains, oh, about 80 percent of what goes on in Washington.

Shortly after the latest Chicken Little climate change report was published last month, I noted on CNN that one reason so many hundreds of scientists are persuaded that the sky is falling is that they are paid handsomely to do so.

I noted that “In America and around the globe governments have created a multi-billion dollar Climate Change Industrial Complex.” And then I added: “A lot of people are getting really, really rich off of the climate change industry.” According to a recent report by the U.S. Government Accountability Office, “Federal funding for climate change research, technology, international assistance, and adaptation has increased from $2.4 billion in 1993 to $11.6 billion in 2014, with an additional $26.1 billion for climate change programs and activities provided by the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act in 2009.”

This doesn’t mean that the planet isn’t warming. But the tidal wave of funding does reveal a powerful financial motive for scientists to conclude that the apocalypse is upon us. No one hires a fireman if there are no fires. No one hires a climate scientist (there are thousands of them now) if there is no catastrophic change in the weather. Why doesn’t anyone in the media ever mention this?

But when I lifted this hood, it incited more hate mail than from anything I’ve said on TV or written. Could it be that this rhetorical missile hit way too close to home?

[ https://www.heritage.org/environment/commentary/follow-the-climate-change-money ]
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: How dare I impugn the integrity of scientists and left-wing think-tanks by suggesting that their research findings are perverted by hundreds of billions of dollars of taxpayer handouts. The irony of this indignation is that any academic whose research dares question the “settled science” of the climate change complex is instantly accused of being a shill for the oil and gas industry or the Koch brothers.

Apparently, if you take money from the private sector to fund research, your work is inherently biased, but if you get multimillion-dollar grants from Uncle Sam, you are as pure as the freshly fallen snow.

How big is the Climate Change Industrial Complex today? Surprisingly, no one seems to be keeping track of all the channels of funding. A few years ago Forbes magazine went through the federal budget and estimated about $150 billion in spending on climate change and green energy subsidies during President Obama’s first term.

That didn’t include the tax subsidies that provide a 30 percent tax credit for wind and solar power — so add to those numbers about $8 billion to $10 billion a year. Then add billions more in costs attributable to the 29 states with renewable energy mandates that require utilities to buy expensive “green” energy.

Worldwide the numbers are gargantuan. Five years ago, a leftist group called the Climate Policy Initiative issued a study which found that “Global investment in climate change” reached $359 billion that year. Then to give you a sense of how money-hungry these planet-saviors are, the CPI moaned that this spending “falls far short of what’s needed” a number estimated at $5 trillion.

For $5 trillion we could feed everyone on the planet, end malaria, and provide clean water and reliable electricity to every remote village in Africa. And we would probably have enough money left over to find a cure for cancer and Alzheimers.

The entire Apollo project to put a man on the moon cost less than $200 billion. We are spending twice that much every year on climate change.

[ https://www.heritage.org/environment/commentary/follow-the-climate-change-money ]
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: This tsunami of government money distorts science in hidden ways that even the scientists who are corrupted often don’t appreciate. If you are a young eager-beaver researcher who decides to devote your life to the study of global warming, you’re probably not going to do your career any good or get famous by publishing research that the crisis isn’t happening.

But if you’ve built bogus models that predict the crisis is getting worse by the day, then step right up and get a multimillion dollar grant.

Now here’s the real scandal of the near trillion dollars that governments have stolen from taxpayers to fund climate change hysteria and research. By the industry’s own admission there has been almost no progress worldwide in actually combatting climate change. The latest reports by the U.S. government and the United Nations say the problem is getting worse not better and we have not delayed the apocalypse by a single day.

Has there ever been such a massive government expenditure that has had such miniscule returns on investment? After three decades of “research” the only “solution” is for the world to stop using fossil fuels, which is like saying that we should stop growing food.

Really? The greatest minds of the world entrusted with hundreds of billions of dollars can only come up with a solution that would entail the largest government power grab in world history, shutting down industrial production (just look at the catastrophe in Germany when they went all in for green energy), and throwing perhaps billions of human beings into poverty? If that’s the remedy, I will take my chances on a warming planet.

[ https://www.heritage.org/environment/commentary/follow-the-climate-change-money ]
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Fractured fairy tale: Yep Don't lift The hood on the Narative of ,Just Trust the experts and the Science ,There doing it for every ones Good ,You Might not Like what you find
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kittybobo34
kittybobo34: Germany wishes they had gone in deeper for green energy, Still dependent on oil and gas they can't change fast enough. As far as a power grab, government trying to lead free enterprise in a new direction based on climate disaster models is not a power grab.
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Fractured fairy tale: Your Based All Your Assersions Of "green energy" On Fantasy Solar and Wind Power Still Need a Back up Be It Coal Nuhicker or Gas , The Techknolgy Isn"t there For them too be Viable Stand alone Self Sustaining Ways of producing Energy
Seem They Were Gonna Rely On Gas Too Make up for the Short fall , But Now there Not allowed too
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: Germany has a problem with green energy. Geography. This from 2021 illustrates:

This year, the coldest weather in a decade arrives in western Europe. Bitter cold and snow sweep across western Europe including Germany, Great Britain, and France. Germany faces a sober reality as millions of its solar panels are blanketed in snow and ice and breathless. The freezing weather has rendered its 30,000 wind turbines to idleness. It is not just the wind turbines. Solar panels covered with snow are also rendered useless. You may call it “coal comfort” as a total collapse in the wind and solar output leaves freezing Germans desperate for coal-fired power.

[ https://techstartups.com/2021/02/11/germanys-green-energy-failure-germany-turns-back-coal-natural-gas-millions-solar-panels-blanketed-snow-ice/ ]
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: There's a reason people lit fires to keep warm in northern latitudes. Nature was too parsimonious to allow humans to survive in any other way.
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Fractured fairy tale: Yep Didn"t That Happen In Texas of all Places Not Long ago ,and you see what Happens They Will Keep the CBD and the Buinesses going with power ,And Sacrifice the Suburbs
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: In other words, oil, coal and peat fired generation capacity must be replaced on a one-for-one basis by gas fired generator systems so adequate generation capacity will be available when there is no wind.

I.e. the permanent retirement or replacement of conventionally powered generating plant is not and cannot be enabled by renewables.

But in the presence of a large renewables capacity whose output is given preference, they are uneconomic and require otherwise unnecesary subsidies for their construction and O&M.

And that is why electricty is so expensive, and getting more expensive.

The combination of conventional (gas fired) generation capacity (adequate for all needs and physically representing the real capital investment required) and the duplicative additional renewable capacity which produces no additional power that could not be delivered by the conventional plant and adding up to a total capacity far in excess of demand, this represents a huge unproductive additional capital investment that produces not a single additional kW of power.

The duplicative misdirected and unproductive capital investment required to deliver Net Zero is a fast track to poverty.

Billions additional cost: Zero additional net output.

Pay premium prices for 2 (or more), get 1 regular.

That doesn't sound like such a great deal, does it?

[ https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/how-did-ireland-run-out-of-electricity-1.4774907 ]
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Fractured fairy tale: Yep every Election here for the last few decades always ends up being about promises of 'green energy' and carbon zero by 2050 as well as the promises that the green energy will be cheaper
But in affect them promises never materialise Power just keeps getting more and more expensive

Good thingy about gas as a stand by it can be ramped up Quickly too meet demand same with coal , I think we're all gonna be poorer in the future paying for all this
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Fractured fairy tale: Besides They don't mesure the cost of energy in the CPI anymore like they used too
How all these Politicians around the World lie too everyone's face and go Don't worry folks won't cost you a cent
Yeah won't cost anything Cos it's not part of there calculations
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wJust_woW
wJust_woW: oarfish : start appearing on many places all around,
the legend of oarfish" the warning made by this friend 5 days before an upcoming earthquake
In japan
Finding a giant oarfish washed up on the beach is a rare occurrence, since the fish is a deepwater species that's rarely seen at all
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Fractured fairy tale: Breaking news Major blackouts in Texas of all Places This Time Cos of heat wave , Geez This Green energy Is Working out Good Who Would Of Thought
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Fractured fairy tale: More Eath Quakes and Tsunami"s You Reckon There Certainly been on the Increase These Last decades
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