Do Creationist Shills On Wireclub Get Paid To Sow Doubt About Evolution?
theHating: the issue is you seeking to yank it from public curricula by asserting it is psuedoscience
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theHating: so how are ya gunna convince a scotus judge that evolution is psuedoscience if you cant even convince me?????????
because creationist nazis got upset that i found out their big secret and started deleting all my posts
it started when i found out about the origins of this psuedoscience terminology that they want to frame evolution is.
post after post, almost every single one copy and pasted from a creationist website or taken out of context on the spot from the mouth of a scientist talking about this very topic.
so i want to know if someone can trace these originally denying science and see if we can glean any info about the finances of these shills. of course that would be doxing people and im definitely against that and wireclub forbids it, so i guess is it reprehensible to ask wireclub staff to look into this?
the premise of proving evolution as psuedoscience is based on misrepresentations of the science. im not really sure why wireclub is allowing these actors to dominate its science forums, but the amount of spam and disinformation produced by them is prolific.
and when you get to the bottom of this pipeline of evolution denying from their one-sided propaganda reel, you find out that the psuedoscience term is a very touchy subject. they dont just assert evolution is invalid but they are asserting the argument used in courts to take evolution out of public school curricula.
these actors dominate the science forum with claims that science is not science and i contend they have a legal and financial motive to sow doubts.
am i being paranoid or reacting too much to a harmless threat?
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Angry Beaver: Seems as though the christian lobby is pushing back trying to stop the haemorrhage of believers from their ranks!
AretoNyx: True. It seems a never ending one where they feel like victims attacking each other and pushing wooish medical neglect often too.
Angry Beaver: The church is worried, people are starting to believe in evolution, they will lose their stranglehold on billions of $$ if this happens....atheism isn't mutual to evolution, we don't care HOW the world was created right now, that's for later, we want to understand what happened after, and there are probably millions of christian evolutionists who are too afraid to admit it, because creationists are bullies who insult and mock science
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theHating: the doctrines of noble witch-doctors ought to be traded in for democratic consensus and debate. superstitious is all you are if you believe in the creationist agenda.
NoSuchName: Intellectual freedom is one of humanity’s greatest gifts—and biggest burdens. Our ability to ask questions, to test ideas, to doubt is what separates us from our fellow animals. But doubt can be as terrifying as it is liberating. And it’s the terror of doubt that fosters the toxic, life-negating cult of creationism.
That fear is on full display throughout HBO’s new documentary Questioning Darwin, which features a series of intimate interviews with biblical fundamentalists. Creationism, the documentary reveals, isn’t a harmless, compartmentalized fantasy. It’s a suffocating, oppressive worldview through which believers must interpret reality—and its primary target is children. For creationists, intellectual inquiry is a sin, and anyone who dares to doubt the wisdom of their doctrine invites eternal damnation. That’s the perverse brilliance of creationism, the key to its self-perpetuation: First it locks kids in the dungeon of ignorance and dogmatic fundamentalism. Then it throws away the key.
HBO doco: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1cbpqt
Well! That was a very interesting doco, well balanced and presented
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theHating: yeah, extremists and radical thinkers need to just let people be and stop trying to destroy things that are intrinsically and provably valuable sciences, these assholes really ought to smoke a joint, but hey, what would i be if i marginalized and dehumanized everyone that disagrees with chilling the fk out?
time to go trigger some sjw's
chris12344: you think Christians are Nazis lol you are the one who believes in evolution if evolutions is true then what is wrong with eugenics...but if Christianity is true then all human beings have intrinsic value
zeffur: re: "theHating: ...am i being paranoid or reacting too much to a harmless threat?"
No. You are just being stupid. The ToE & evolution are just a rubbish theory & anyone honest, rational, & having a modicum of intelligence knows it.
"Natural selection' is irrelevant phrase-noise. All genomes already have all of the natural diversity that they will ever need to naturally express the wide variations that we see in the fossil record & in modern organisms--and genetic stasis prevents evolution from ever occurring. There is ZERO credible evidence that can be shown to prove evolution has EVER occurred. What your type calls evolution--every honest biologist calls natural variations--which is not evolution of any kind.
Evolution via mutations is another unproven evolution claim. To go from goo-2-modern organisms, a lot of dna complexity would have needed to happen--the problem for evolutionists is that there is ZERO credible evidence to prove such a thing has EVER happened to produce any kind of evolution.
Evolution is a total fraud--it should absolutely be banned from being taught anywhere unless it can prove it's beliefs--which it can't do.
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The flying Squirrel: Cleaning There "s I suppose , In case they hear voices , Or they could brag its too early To Change the Tire on the Collection of Vintage cars , or Clean there Multiple story Mc Mantions
Yeap what its all about Is , Im better than you , Dont you Forget it so every one else can see How good I am
chris12344: @the flying squirrel what are you saying...who are you saying thinks they are so much better than everyone else?
Angry Beaver: I'd say more religious folk make that mistake tbh
Why do people say atheist as if it's a dirty word otherwise?
Angry Beaver: "50 Reasons I Reject Evolution (SATIRE)
by BJPentecost, Mar 8, 2009, 6:37:38 AM
Journals / Personal
1.) Because I don't like the idea that we came from apes… despite that humans are categorically defined and classified as apes.
2.) Because I'm too stupid and/or lazy to open a fucking science book or turn on the Discovery Science Channel.
3.) Because if I can't immediately understand how something works, then it must be bullshit.
4.) Because I don't care that literally 99.9% of all biologists accept evolution as the unifying theory of biology.
5.) Because I prefer the idea that a (insert god of choice) went ALLA-KADABRA-ZAM MOTHAH-FUCKAHS!!!
6.) Because I can't get it through my thick logic-proof skull that evolution refers ONLY to the diversity of living organisms which reproduce with genetic variation, not to abiogenesis, or planet formation, or big bang cosmology, or whether God exists, or where they buried Jimmy Hoffa, or why the sky is blue, or how many licks it takes to get to the center of a fucking Tootsie Pop.
7.) Because the fossil record doesn't comprise the remains of every single living thing that ever existed on this 4.5 billion year old planet, even though fossilization is a rare process that only occurs under very specific circumstances.
8.) Because science has yet to produce any transitional species… except for the magnitudinous numbers of them found in the fossil record which don't count because… I uh, OOH LOOK! A SHINY OBJECT!!! *runs away*
9.) Because I know nothing about Darwin except that he had a funny beard.
10.) Because the theory of evolution (which, according to scientists, perfectly explains the richness and diversity of life on Earth) contradicts biblical literalism… ya know, flat Earth with a firmament that keeps out the water, talking snakes, people rising from the dead, bats are birds, flamey talking bushes, virgin births, food appearing out of nowhere, massive bodies of water turning into blood… etc etc.
11.) Because I think the word "theory" actually means: "random stabs in the dark" when it really means: "an explanation of certain phenomena that is well-supported by a large body of facts and often unifies similarly well-supported hypotheses" i.e. atomic theory, gravitational theory, germ theory, cell theory, some-people-are-dumb-motherfuckers-theory, etc.
12.) Because the fact that science is self-correcting annoys me. Most of my other beliefs are rigidly fixed and uncorrectable.
13.) Because I am under the severely mistaken impression that evolution implies someone in my very recent ancestry was a chimp.
14.) Because everything appears designed to my mind which was expertly tuned by nature to perceive design, probably as a survival mechanism.
15.) Because some secretly fabulous closet-dwelling televangelist (who unironically preaches hate towards gays) told me that evolution is Satan's way of leading me away from God.
16.) Because that same guy (who was also caught snorting blow off a male hooker's shiny naked ass) told me that God planted those fossils to test my faith.
17.) Because I'm 100% correct about everything 100% of the time and there is 0% chance that some snooty Oxford educated scientist with numerous honorary doctorates could possibly know something that I don't.
18.) Because I don't know that fossils are found in sedimentary strata corresponding to their age as one would expect if evolution were true.
19.) Because I don't understand why, if we share common ancestry with chimps, there are still chimps. And when someone with more than three brain cells in their head inevitably replies: "for the same reason Americans share common ancestry with Brits but there are still Brits, I can't follow the logic. It's just too big a leap. Who am I, Evil Knievel?
20.) Because my mom dropped me on my head when I was a baby.
21.) Multiple times.
22.) On purpose.
23.) Because the idea that life evolved naturally over billions of years is infinitely less believable than the idea that an 800 year old man crammed two of every species into a giant wooden boat when the entire planet flooded, an event for which there is absolutely no geological evidence whatsoever and also makes no fucking sense at all.
24.) Because Jesus totally rode around on a fucking t-rex. He's just that badassed. And also, did you know that t-rexes were vegetarians? Ken Ham says so and I believe it.
25.) Because I don't realize that saying "microevolution is possible but macroevolution isn't" is as stupid as saying "I can pick my nose for one second but I cannot pick it for 10 seconds."
26.) Because the education system failed me miserably.
27.) …and then took a big wet dump on my face.
28.) Because I think that knowing how nature works magically obliterates all of its beauty.
29.) Because I didn't know that evolution has been tested and observed in laboratories.
30.) Because when confronted with that, I refuse to believe it. It's obviously a scientific conspiracy aimed at turning everyone on the planet into atheists... even though evolution says nothing about god's nature nor whether he, she, it, or they exist.
31.) Because I'm too stupid to realize that Social Darwinism has nothing to do with evolution and is actually a pseudo-scientific bastardization that real science largely rejects.
32.) Because the planet and all the life on it was designed for humans… kinda like how the Metropolitan Museum of Art in NY was designed specifically for the dust-bunnies that may accumulate on the floors.
33.) Because I don't realize that if we actually found croco-ducks in the fossil record, it would call many evolutionary principles into serious question.
34.) Because plenty of respectable people like Ron Paul and Mike Huckabee (who are not scientists) don't accept evolution, and that somehow validates my opinion.
35.) Because my mother didn't know not to drink while she was pregnant. She also didn't know not to repeatedly throw herself down a flight of stairs in an attempt to undo the accident of screwing someone who voted for Bush both times.
36.) Because I don't know that "irreducible complexity" has been debunked a frazillion times by a frazillion different people and is no more credible an argument than "NEEN-er NEEN-er NEEN-er, I'm right and you're wrong."
37.) Because I have never seen a duck evolve into a cat over night, despite the fact that such a thing would be contrary to all known scientific disciplines.
38.) Because I have no imagination, learning is too much effort, I don't like proven facts, change scares me, and I think deoxyribonucleic acid is something I'm supposed to clean my bathroom floors with.
39.) Because evolution means that I absolutely MUST reject everything else I know, abandon all my beliefs, and start aping around my house like a fucking monkey. OOOh-ooohh-ooohohh -OOOOOOHHHHHH!!!!!
40.) Because I haven't put my cave on the market and moved into the 21st century yet. I'm waiting for the cave market to rebound from the recent financial meltdown.
41.) Because I don't know what an atavism is and if you told me, I still wouldn't believe it. Too weird.
42.) Because I don't know that evolution explains methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus and also provides the answer in preventing it from turning into a superbug and killing massive numbers of people.
43.) Because I don't know that evolution is routinely used in medicine to diagnose and treat certain illnesses such as genetic ailments, bacterial infections, and viral infections.
44.) Because I believe there is a strong comparison between designed inanimate objects such as buildings, paintings, and watches (which we know were pieced together from identifiable components by human beings) and living organisms (which reproduce with genetic variation under the effects of environmental attrition).
45.) Because I see no significant similarities between humans and apes. *scratches my ass-crack then smells my fingers*
46.) Because I think I'm too special to have been crafted by any natural process. In fact, I'm so fuckin special, the entire planet, solar system, galaxy, and universe were created with me especially in mind, yes, I am THAT hotdamn important.
47.) Because I unquestioningly swallow the ignorant anti-science bullshit spewed directly from the fraudulent stupid asses of people like Ken Ham, Ted Haggard, Fred Phelps, and Kent Hovind.
48.) Because I'm a freethinker and freethinking really means ignoring anything that contradicts what I already believe.
49.) Because I don't know what confirmation bias is.
50.) Because "GOD DID IT" is the answer to anything I don't immediately comprehend and I certainly don't understand evolution.
Ladies and gentlemen, I rest my case. Quod erat demonstrandum, I fucking win. Take that you EVILutionists!
~By Bobbie Jean Pentecost "
TheloniousSphereMonk: I don't think they're getting any money, but maybe hoping that they can impress the young chicks on their friends list with their creationist suave. (hint, hint @ zeffer & bobby bs)