evolsion (Page 6) (Post deleted by Blackshoes ) (Post deleted by Blackshoes )  kittybobo34: I think Blackshoes is a classic example of the power of propaganda when started as a child. Not even God could convince him that evolution is a rational theory that defines how things have been changing for 4 billion years.  AchillesSinatra: Kitty, I posed a few questions to you, you who are immune to propaganda Topic: Science Do you intend to address them? Or just go on belittling the weak and infirm? (Edited by AchillesSinatra) AchillesSinatra: " I think Blackshoes is a classic example of the power of propaganda when started as a child. Not even God could convince him that evolution is a rational theory that defines how things have been changing for 4 billion years." - Kitty Two questions: Q1: What is the theory? Q2: How do we determine whether it's rational or not? Coz you say so?  (Post deleted by Blackshoes ) AchillesSinatra: Now, lest I be misconstrued and liked (God forbid  )I think Blackshoes talks a lot of rubbish. And I think 80% of Kitty's posts are rubbish, too. How's that for ecumenical? (Post deleted by Blackshoes ) (Post deleted by Blackshoes ) AchillesSinatra: I admire this man so much. So obscenely clever. Thank you Routinely dismissed as a Creationist. he's not. (Post deleted by Blackshoes ) AchillesSinatra: "It's not against or for a dam thing" I wasn't addressing you  I was addressing the North Korean patriots who claim "There is no evidence that Kim Men Ta Lee Il" isn't the greatest leader who ever lived. except for unreliable sources, of course kittybobo34: Achilles,, 1) "The theory of evolution". The mechanism of change over time within organic organisms. Random mutations, guided by natural selection, resulting in newer species over a great period of time 2)Determining rationality ? Like any theory, finding something that doesn't fit in the framework of the theory would invalidate it. The theory of gravity defines the result that we see in reality, as does the theory of Evolution define what we see in reality with the variety of species, and the fossil record of the past. AchillesSinatra: Kitty, I admire your passion, but this is so hopelessly naive I'd like to marry you Details coming up... I'm playing Wordy. Haha! AchillesSinatra: Well, it's a damn shame I'll stick to stuffed lemurs then. Now, Kitty, first of all, I'd like to make clear I admire you for your intelligence and gentleness. A few points for us to discuss... "Like any theory, finding something that doesn't fit in the framework of the theory would invalidate it." This is, of course, nonsense. Anyone familiar with the history of science will know that a whiff of recalcitrant data does not sound the death knell of a beloved theory. I will provide examples if you like. "The theory of gravity" Er, which one? kittybobo34: I see your point, but eventually the theory has to adapt to the new information or be proven wrong AchillesSinatra: Proven wrong? Kitty, with all due respect, ... Well, explain to us how a theory is proven wrong AchillesSinatra: Kitty,this is complete nonsense. Max Planck has this to say on the matter: "A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it." -- Max Planck AchillesSinatra: Would you like some examples of data not fitting theory and where the theory is still gripped upon? | Science Chat Room 3 People Chatting Similar Conversations |
