Creationism is a mental illness (Page 273) BelgianStrider: Well I gave a clear example about a quotation presented here by you (or JX - I think it is from you) where you clearly cherry- picked it out of context. I gave the whole context where you cherry-picked the "quotations" and after all: when reading "everything" it was clearly NOT telling at all what YOU pretended to be!!! I am quite certain if we would dig futher in all the quotations you mentionned we will come to that conclusion! Now when you talk about science and you come with something speaking about history. I don't know, but for me that seems to be two different subjects completely without any relation outside that one speaks about the "history of science". I can also gave some clear frustations we had when we were tutored about physics with mathematics that would be tutored a year later! Does it change anything to the validity of the used mathematics or the validity what we were taught? I don't think so !!!!!! That's factually what you are doing! Just mentionning a guy that was a (little) frustrated how QM was presented THAT TIME! Does that change anything about QM itself ????? It is still a weird speciality with extreme weird mathematical models and predictions that are discovered (by change) decades later. The Higgs boson is a clear example of that !!!! Oh; specialist are "discussing" about "details" in their speciality, that means the "theory" has to be a flaw!!!!! Where the heck is there any logic in it ????? "PE has to contradict GE", oh YEAAAAHHHHHH, Where the heck is that mentionned in actual ToE ?????? We gave clear evidence it is not the case !!!!!! "The sun will become a black hole"! You, axo, even defended JX in that statement! We gave clear evidence it is NOT the case. It is only AFTER that, that the back-peddling started. NOT BEFORE!!!! Shall we continue with all the "scientific crap" you both try to spread? Do you both really think you both have presented till now any CREDIBILITY in mathematics, physics, astrophysics, QM and "Evolution" ????????? (Edited by BelgianStrider) BelgianStrider: Concerning this: "𝘔𝘢𝘺 𝘐 𝘣𝘰𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘸 𝘺𝘰𝘶𝘳 "𝘙𝘪𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘳𝘥 𝘋𝘢𝘸𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘚𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘯 𝘋𝘸𝘢𝘳𝘷𝘦𝘴" 𝘸𝘩𝘦𝘯 𝘺𝘰𝘶'𝘳𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘨𝘩 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘪𝘵, 𝘱𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘴𝘦?" Even if you presented free of charge ""𝘣𝘦𝘳𝘭𝘪𝘯𝘴𝘬𝘪 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘚𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘯 𝘋𝘸𝘢𝘳𝘷𝘦𝘴" 𝘸𝘩𝘦𝘯 𝘺𝘰𝘶'𝘳𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘨𝘩 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘪𝘵", I will not accept: I have better things to do! (Edited by BelgianStrider) BelgianStrider: Typical "creationist's" behaviour: trying to ridiculise and if that does not work "ad hominem" !!!! That is ok. Though, showing clearly they are idiots: is not done; then they became poor persecuted christians. Oh by the way, historically there has never been really and willingfully persecution of christians only prosecutions. That is clearly a myth! "Martyrdom" is not a christian invention, "Dying well and nobly" was a extreme old concept before the birth of jc !!!! (Edited by BelgianStrider) BelgianStrider: The myth of persecution How Early Christians Invented a Story of Martyrdom By Candida Moss Released: 2013 March 5th Publisher: Harper One Genre: Religion & Spirituality  Geoff: I've never met a creationist I would trust within 500m of my children. This thread has actually opened my eyes. I'm increasing that range to 1km. Geoff: And I am thinking of having a restraining order against Axo that prevents him from being in the same country as my children. All I need is reasonable cause. And I think he's more than provided that on his own. Geoff: The fact that you're a dangerous person? Biology and psychology have determined the youngest age that human beings should be engaged in sexual activity. And the law has been written in the last century to accommodate that. But, you think that science is ALWAYS in flux, therefore you should be allowed to ignore that. I mean, we've had 150 years of people with a really powerful and wealthy organisation working to disprove Evolution, and they've failed miserably. Science itself found a better way to define gravity in that time (btw, Newton's equations were good enough to land Apollo 11 on the moon). Science is about "Where's the money?" And you seem to be on the side of "the money should be spent on grooming children." (Edited by Geoff) Geoff: We want to teach children to think for themselves. You seem to be on the side of teaching children that a book written in the bronze age is still relevant to teach them morality, science, and law. Geoff: You may reject that. But it's what you're doing. Because you read a book. Read another fucking book. Geoff: Don't bother replying to me. I have you blocked. Just do me a favour and don't breed or come anywhere near my children. Geoff: Racists and fascists really don't like to hear about evolution. Because it demolishes their, "There's people we should follow," argument. And racists and fascists deserve nothing but a punch in the face. Colin, read actual science, not just "philosophy of science" bullshit written by people who don't actually understand science after the 18th century.  (Post deleted by Geoff ) axocanth: "Colin, read actual science, not just "philosophy of science" bullshit written by people who don't actually understand science after the 18th century." I'm all ears, Geoff. Go ahead and point out these misunderstandings of mine. Geoff:
I can't educate you. You've radicalised yourself. Don't read Dawkins, Dawkins is a dick. Try Christopher Hitchens. Not his dumbass little brother. Or Rosalind Franklin's work? You should love her work, she was robbed of a Nobel. Geoff: You want to quote someone, you quote their words and address them right there. A sentence at a time. You don't copy a whole fucking page. That's just weird. axocanth: "Colin, read actual science, not just "philosophy of science" bullshit written by people who don't actually understand science after the 18th century." You know what's so ironic in all this? I have quoted time and time again from physicists, evolutionary biologists, and so forth, to support my various positions. Er, yes, I do read these books, dude. What do you think I do: just skim for quotes? Guess what, though? Seems I'm the only person here who HAS read them. I find myself debating our resident "science experts" who proceed to argue the merits and demerits of punctuated equilibrium, say, or the vexed issue of inter-theoretical reduction (e.g. Newton vs Einstein) . . . WITHOUT HAVING READ A THING ABOUT IT! Funny old world, eh?  BelgianStrider: "𝘐 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘪𝘯𝘥𝘦𝘦𝘥 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘤𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘵𝘰 𝘱𝘳𝘦𝘱𝘰𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘴𝘭𝘺 𝘯𝘢𝘪𝘷𝘦 𝘴𝘶𝘨𝘨𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘴 𝘵𝘰 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘦𝘧𝘧𝘦𝘤𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘢𝘭𝘭 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘪𝘯𝘧𝘭𝘶𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘦𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘴𝘤𝘪𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘪𝘧𝘪𝘤 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘤𝘦𝘴𝘴 𝘪𝘴 𝘦𝘷𝘪𝘥𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘭𝘰𝘨𝘪𝘤. 𝘖𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘴 𝘧𝘢𝘤𝘵𝘰𝘳𝘴, 𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘭𝘶𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘮𝘰𝘯𝘦𝘺, 𝘴𝘰𝘤𝘪𝘢𝘭 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘤𝘶𝘭𝘵𝘶𝘳𝘢𝘭 𝘪𝘯𝘧𝘭𝘶𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘦𝘴, 𝘥𝘰 𝘪𝘯𝘥𝘦𝘦𝘥 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘺 𝘢 𝘳𝘰𝘭𝘦. 𝘈𝘯𝘺𝘰𝘯𝘦 𝘥𝘦𝘯𝘺𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘛𝘏𝘈𝘛 𝘯𝘦𝘦𝘥𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘪𝘳 𝘩𝘦𝘢𝘥 𝘦𝘹𝘢𝘮𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘥. 𝘈𝘳𝘦 𝘺𝘰𝘶?" oh really? money, social and CULTURAL influences (you know that most cultures are influenced by religion) Money yeah: you need money to be able to study and do science. Though have you seen all scientist that "rich" as anti-scientific zealots like k ham, and k hovind. Any scientist spending some ten years behind grey bars because his work was for his deity? Most scientist just get an average salary!!!! social? heeeeeeuuuuu science is open for anyone who is interested in it! No social limitations! Cultural? hmmm yeah when fanatical religion is invlolved some gets completely beserk like j tour! axocanth: Why the censorship, Geoff. Which rule was violated? Or have you now determined that alternative views, no matter how rationally argued, are to be disallowed? Geoff: The shitting a whole page of other people's posts for no reason. If you have a reason to quote me do it a line or two at a time and don't be Wire's MTG. Also, I'm still fucking concerned about you. You fucking weirdo.  Nicotina: axo, seeing as you haven't figured it out I shall explain it for you using small words. We know that you play word games to try and look smart but you are just a brain washed moron. axocanth: Never mind then. I'll leave you indulge your own fantasies, and prove to yourselves that you're right by surrounding yourselves with sycophants who say exactly the same thing you say. The last thing every dictator needs is some asshole saying things that might be true and spoiling the party. See ya  (Edited by axocanth) | Science Chat Room Similar Conversations |
