Creationism is a mental illness (Page 231)

BelgianStrider
BelgianStrider: No not intelligent, there are many organisms without any intelligence.
I would say it is surely a bio-chemical. Lately there is made a distinction between carbon-chemistry (- non living organic chemistry - ) and bio-chemistry (- living organic chemistry - ).

As that organism is also an "extreme weird" entity between life and non-life, we might consider it also a good indication for a-biogenesis !
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Nicotina
Nicotina: Well, zeff is an organism without any intelligence. 🤷‍♀️
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zeffur
zeffur: You never know anything worth knowing.. so, meh...
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zeffur
zeffur: re: "BSr: Seems that Z is unable to understand that most of the bacteria, like all viruses are pathogens.

I never asserted that there aren't pathogenic bacteria. There are also beneficial bacteria in your gut, too. Got any other straw men up your sleeve to try to pretend I posted something else that I didn't post??

re: "...bacte[i[ria need living organisms to be able to live and reproduce themselves as they are "parasites".

Dude, your biology knowledge is obviously even worse than your physics knowledge. You are the poster child for the DK effect.

"Relatively few bacteria are parasites or pathogens that cause disease in animals and plants." src: https://microbiologysociety.org/why-microbiology-matters/what-is-microbiology/bacteria.html

"Bacteria are single celled microbes. The cell structure is simpler than that of other organisms as there is no nucleus or membrane bound organelles. Instead their control centre containing the genetic information is contained in a single loop of DNA. Some bacteria have an extra circle of genetic material called a plasmid. The plasmid often contains genes that give the bacterium some advantage over other bacteria. For example it may contain a gene that makes the bacterium resistant to a certain antibiotic.

Bacteria are classified into five groups according to their basic shapes: spherical (cocci), rod (bacilli), spiral (spirilla), comma (vibrios) or corkscrew (spirochaetes). They can exist as single cells, in pairs, chains or clusters.

Bacteria are found in every habitat on Earth: soil, rock, oceans and even arctic snow. Some live in or on other organisms including plants and animals including humans. There are approximately 10 times as many bacterial cells as human cells in the human body. A lot of these bacterial cells are found lining the digestive system. Some bacteria live in the soil or on dead plant matter where they play an important role in the cycling of nutrients. Some types cause food spoilage and crop damage but others are incredibly useful in the production of fermented foods such as yoghurt and soy sauce. Relatively few bacteria are parasites or pathogens that cause disease in animals and plants.

How do bacteria reproduce?

Bacteria reproduce by binary fission. In this process the bacterium, which is a single cell, divides into two identical daughter cells. Binary fission begins when the DNA of the bacterium divides into two (replicates). The bacterial cell then elongates and splits into two daughter cells each with identical DNA to the parent cell. Each daughter cell is a clone of the parent cell.

When conditions are favourable such as the right temperature and nutrients are available, some bacteria like Escherichia coli can divide every 20 minutes. This means that in just seven hours one bacterium can generate 2,097,152 bacteria. After one more hour the number of bacteria will have risen to a colossal 16,777,216. That’s why we can quickly become ill when pathogenic microbes invade our bodies.
Survival mechanism

Some bacteria can form endospores. These are dormant structures, which are extremely resistant to hostile physical and chemical conditions such as heat, UV radiation and disinfectants. This makes destroying them very difficult. Many endospore-producing bacteria are nasty pathogens, for example Bacillus anthracis, the cause of anthrax."

re: "Again a biological fact that totally contradicts Z standpoint!"

More false contradictions from you again, huh? Do you frequently falsely see monsters underneath your bed, also??
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Nicotina
Nicotina: Awwww... it’s cute how zeff desperately tries to be taken seriously.
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zeffur
zeffur: That's all you've got? Stupid little snipes? Why don't you try to enlighten us with some research--or does reading & comprehending hurt your brain?
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BelgianStrider
BelgianStrider: "However, several species of bacteria are pathogenic and cause infectious diseases, including cholera, syphilis, anthrax, leprosy, and bubonic plague. The most common fatal bacterial diseases are respiratory infections.
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However, several species of bacteria are pathogenic and cause infectious diseases, including cholera, syphilis, anthrax, leprosy, and bubonic plague. The most common fatal bacterial diseases are respiratory infections.
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Pathogens
Main article: Pathogenic bacteria
Color-enhanced scanning electron micrograph of red Salmonella typhimurium in yellow human cells
Colour-enhanced scanning electron micrograph showing Salmonella typhimurium (red) invading cultured human cells
The body is continually exposed to many species of bacteria, including beneficial commensals, which grow on the skin and mucous membranes, and saprophytes, which grow mainly in the soil and in decaying matter. The blood and tissue fluids contain nutrients sufficient to sustain the growth of many bacteria. The body has defence mechanisms that enable it to resist microbial invasion of its tissues and give it a natural immunity or innate resistance against many microorganisms.[202] Unlike some viruses, bacteria evolve relatively slowly so many bacterial diseases also occur in other animals.[203]

If bacteria form a parasitic association with other organisms, they are classed as pathogens.[204] Pathogenic bacteria are a major cause of human death and disease and cause infections such as tetanus (caused by Clostridium tetani), typhoid fever, diphtheria, syphilis, cholera, foodborne illness, leprosy (caused by Micobacterium leprae) and tuberculosis (caused by Mycobacterium tuberculosis).[205] A pathogenic cause for a known medical disease may only be discovered many years later, as was the case with Helicobacter pylori and peptic ulcer disease.[206] Bacterial diseases are also important in agriculture, with bacteria causing leaf spot, fire blight and wilts in plants, as well as Johne's disease, mastitis, salmonella and anthrax in farm animals.[207]

Gram-stained micrograph of bacteria from the vagina
In bacterial vaginosis beneficial bacteria in the vagina (top) are displaced by pathogens (bottom). Gram stain.
Each species of pathogen has a characteristic spectrum of interactions with its human hosts. Some organisms, such as Staphylococcus or Streptococcus, can cause skin infections, pneumonia, meningitis and sepsis, a systemic inflammatory response producing shock, massive vasodilation and death.[208] Yet these organisms are also part of the normal human flora and usually exist on the skin or in the nose without causing any disease at all. Other organisms invariably cause disease in humans, such as the Rickettsia, which are obligate intracellular parasites able to grow and reproduce only within the cells of other organisms. One species of Rickettsia causes typhus, while another causes Rocky Mountain spotted fever. Chlamydia, another phylum of obligate intracellular parasites, contains species that can cause pneumonia or urinary tract infection and may be involved in coronary heart disease.[209] Some species, such as Pseudomonas aeruginosa, Burkholderia cenocepacia, and Mycobacterium avium, are opportunistic pathogens and cause disease mainly in people suffering from immunosuppression or cystic fibrosis.[210][211] Some bacteria produce toxins, which cause diseases.[212] These are endotoxins, which come from broken bacterial cells, and exotoxins, which are produced by bacteria and released into the environment.[213] The bacterium Clostridium botulinum for example, produces a powerful extoxin that cause respiratory paralysis and Salmonellae produce an endotoxin that causes gastroenteritis.[213] Some exotoxins can be converted to toxoids, which are used as vaccines to prevent the disease.[214]

Bacterial infections may be treated with antibiotics, which are classified as bacteriocidal if they kill bacteria or bacteriostatic if they just prevent bacterial growth. There are many types of antibiotics, and each class inhibits a process that is different in the pathogen from that found in the host. An example of how antibiotics produce selective toxicity are chloramphenicol and puromycin, which inhibit the bacterial ribosome, but not the structurally different eukaryotic ribosome.[215] Antibiotics are used both in treating human disease and in intensive farming to promote animal growth, where they may be contributing to the rapid development of antibiotic resistance in bacterial populations.[216] Infections can be prevented by antiseptic measures such as sterilising the skin prior to piercing it with the needle of a syringe, and by proper care of indwelling catheters. Surgical and dental instruments are also sterilised to prevent contamination by bacteria. Disinfectants such as bleach are used to kill bacteria or other
pathogens on surfaces to prevent contamination and further reduce the risk of infection.[217]"

Ref: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacteria"

Pathogens clearly need living organisms !
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zeffur
zeffur: "The total bacteria mass we find represents about 0.3% of the overall body weight, significantly updating previous statements that 1%–3% of the body mass is composed of bacteria or that a normal human hosts 1–3 kg of bacteria"

"Somewhere between 300 and 1000 different species live in the gut, with most estimates at about 500. However, it is probable that 99% of the bacteria come from about 30 or 40 species, with Faecalibacterium prausnitzii (phylum firmicutes) being the most common species in healthy adults."

"Not all bacteria are pathogenic, though. In the body, there are many types of harmless bacteria, and some may even support essential bodily functions."
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BelgianStrider
BelgianStrider: "... What means; like viruses, bacteria need living organisms to be able to live and reproduce themselves as they are "parasites".
Some bacteria do "parasite" in symbiosis - what means both the "parasite" and the "host" have mutual benefits or even "mutual dependency" - example of pure symbiosis: all the bacteria in intestines helping animals to digest ! ..."

it seems either Z can not read or Z is extremely selective in reading and understanding !
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BelgianStrider
BelgianStrider: ooooh right; the word "symbiosis" is too complicate for him
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zeffur
zeffur: Your version of symbiosis is an evo chump con job just like all of evolution...
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BelgianStrider
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BelgianStrider
BelgianStrider: The word "symbiosis" is indeed to complicate for Z
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zeffur
zeffur: Keep lying to yourself--you deserve the consequences of it...
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BelgianStrider
BelgianStrider:

evolution is naturalistically impossible !

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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: Is it possible to know what is impossible?
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BelgianStrider
BelgianStrider: It is a good question !

I had to think a while about that.

It is quite improbable to travel faster than light . Well the mathematical model tells us that - till now -.

Time travelling will be extremely hard to realize !

It is as good as impossible for humans to dive with a normal scuba gear to depths beyond 200 m (when I say normal scubagear is just without any special technics like trimix, "dive bell" , O² to desaturate - thus diving autonomously with normal air in your divetank-.

Floating in water with a normal car !
Jumping so hard that you can leave Earth's gravitational force !


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BelgianStrider
BelgianStrider: But nothing can make us certain that a-biogenesis is impossible !
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AretoNyx
AretoNyx: YouTube Neglectful parents need to do better...
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AretoNyx
AretoNyx: Cults will cult ...and neglect or abuse kids sadly.

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BelgianStrider
BelgianStrider: Such parents should be sentenced several years to jail, also following a total desintoctrination program and the children manadtory taught in a public school !
Any form of child abuse should be condemned severelly !
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kittybobo34
kittybobo34: Perhaps someday people will need a license to have children.
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BelgianStrider
BelgianStrider: I should not have to go that far, but a license to do home-teaching and at least a yearly check of the level of education might be vey good and valable options.
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BelgianStrider
BelgianStrider: It is a fact keeping your child(ren) ignorant is compomitting their future and doom them to a extreme poor future. That is for me as good as a crime against humanity and that in the name of a virtual god !!!
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BelgianStrider
BelgianStrider: The more when they discover how they have been deceived and abused in the name of a virtual god what trauma those "kids" have to endure !
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