Creationism is a mental illness (Page 204) TheloniousSphereMonk: Oh the humanity!!!  *wolf's down burger, feels better* Zzzzzzzzzz (Edited by TheloniousSphereMonk)  BelgianStrider: Real science <-> False science Real belief <-> False belief Real religion <-> False religion Real christians <-> False christians "Real this <-> False that": that's how we can explain zeffie's (black competing white) worldview  There is a similar phylosiphical worldview, called YING-YANG. Though that worldview is more complex and refined: YING complements YANG , it does not compete like in zeffie's view. We should also not forget all those worldwide conspirations against the poor persecuted real christians by satanic groupings (idiocies emanating by complete lunatics of QAnon) and as proof the complete fraudulent US elections that put trumpietrump and his gang of idiots (doing chair dancing in trumpietrump's administration) aside - totally made up lies from those idiots, as they could not come with any compelling fact or evidence that could start "one" juristic case -. Always asking evidences and facts for anyone's assertions. Feeling free to not give any for his personnal claims - which are regularily totally false and without any foundation. Summarized: Real zeffie <-> False world. (Edited by BelgianStrider)  zeffur: Here's a new forum for you to present your best 'sound' case for your 'scientific fact' claims for evolution. Feel free to post your best position---if you actually have an honest & sound position & you can refrain from your usual dishonest trolling... Evolution Fact or Fiction--Make your best 'sound' case. Topic: Off Topic (Edited by zeffur) (Post deleted by zeffur )  ghostgeek: Zeffur, you grumpy old gerbil, if it turns out evolution is a crock of shit as you so loudly claim, it will not alter the verifiable fact that the Bible is a steaming trough of horse manure. BelgianStrider: Voilà la raison que je n'irais point sur ton forum... "ghostgeek: How could we guess that Zeffur, on the first page of his thread, would delete somebody's post. 2 hours ago • Report" Tu est tout à fait ridicule, malhonête, difamatoire et menteur... Car toute entrée valable et véridique te contredisant, sera suprimée dogmatiquement (comme ton petit copain noireschausures dans ses fora). Ce qui est clairement confirmé par autrui... Entre parenthèses, je ne suis pas le seul: Nicotina semble être complètement de mon avis aussi. Contrairement à toi; on n'est pas con. (Edited by BelgianStrider) zeffur: re: "gg: Zeffur, ...if it turns out evolution is a crock of shit...it will not alter the verifiable fact that the Bible is a steaming trough of horse manure." Actually, God & The Bible are the only rational explanation for life on earth. None of the endless disbeliefs & lies about The Bible that you falsely peddle are worth anything as you cannot prove any of it is true... (Edited by zeffur) zeffur: re: "BSr: This is the reason that I would not go to your forum ... "ghostgeek: How could we guess that Zeffur, on the first page of his thread, would delete somebody's post." You are utterly ridiculous, dishonest, defamatory and a liar... Because any valid and truthful entry contradicting you, will be suppressed dogmatically (like your little black boyfriend in his fora). What is clearly confirmed by others ..." ____________________ Actually, you have no truth to offer & you know it--and that IS the only REAL reason that you will not post in such a forum. I deleted 1 post from a chronic troll spammer after I warned him. If you post honest info & you do not troll, you will have no need to worry about having any of your messages deleted. The problem for you is that you are chronically dishonest & irrational & you go into fits of rage because you are not an honest person who has proper self-control. re: "Incidentally, I'm not the only one: Nicotina seems to be completely of my opinion too." Birds of a feather flock together. Nicotina never has any verified truth to offer--so, she is just as impotent & as much of a liar as you are." She's just a dishonest watcher &  in this forum...re: "Unlike you; we are not stupid." at that ^^^ You are some of the most corrupt, dumb, dishonest, & delusional people that I have ever encountered. You are all so pathetic & so pitiful and so lacking in intelligence &/ honesty that you are incapable of recognizing/admiting that reality.(Edited by zeffur) ghostgeek: Is God the only rational explanation for life on earth? I say no because it has been suggested, quite rationally, that we exist within a computer simulation.  kittybobo34: could also be like the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy,, its all an experiment by the mice. ghostgeek: Wherever you look scientists are arguing, so I think it a little premature to make claims about something as baffling as the origin of the universe. BelgianStrider: Bwa there is a quite good majority accepting the Big Bang Theory as valid. Again they will bikker about "details", "idem ditto" with "evolution"; they just bikker about "details" of "how it happened" but never about "it happened or not". Quite all of them are quite convinced "evolution" is occurring. kittybobo34: I agree, we all have our own ideas, at least I do,, until they come up with some facts that don't fit, I am not changing. kittybobo34: I am a big bang believer,, with the bang being the end result of a huge crunch. So in effect an endless series of bangs and crunches, matter to energy and back to matter. ghostgeek: You might think that the universe started with a big bang. Ten years ago, that is what I thought too. But then I came to realise that the issue is far from settled. Pursuing this question prompted me to change the tack of my career and become a cosmologist, even though I had just completed a PhD in the philosophy of quantum physics. What I have discovered since then supports a radically new response to the question that irked Augustine – what came before the beginning? The answer, thrillingly, may be that there never was a big bang, but instead a universe with no beginning or end, repeatedly bouncing from an epoch of contraction to expansion, and back again. [ https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg24332430-800-what-if-there-was-no-big-bang-and-we-live-in-an-ever-cycling-universe/ ] kittybobo34: Sounds like you think its one or the other, I think its both a big bang and an endless cycle ghostgeek: What If the Big Bang Was Actually a Big Bounce? New computer simulations model an alternate way of thinking about the cosmos: as a cyclic universe that has no beginning or end. [ https://www.wired.com/story/what-if-the-big-bang-was-actually-a-big-bounce/ ] I think it's too early in our study of the universe to make cast iron pronouncements. BelgianStrider: "kittybobo34: I am a big bang believer,, with the bang being the end result of a huge crunch. So in effect an endless series of bangs and crunches, matter to energy and back to matter." So you are proponent to multiverses. I can surely accept that point of view. But: Tbh: I don't know and it is a little beyond my scientific knowledge to make a certain opinion. I know L. Krauss explains that multiverses are mathematically and following QM not impossible and has to be considered. So the impossibility is surrely not 100% we even can say the probability is quite real. Though how it will ever been confirmed by evidences?  What I am quite certain is the following: This universe allowed us to "exist" and it is not because we exists that this universe has been created... (Edited by BelgianStrider) | Science Chat Room Similar Conversations |
