Creationism is a mental illness (Page 202)  ghostgeek: When people get tired of fighting they go home. That's what happened with the West in Afghanistan.  BelgianStrider: ghostseek: well, that happened in the 60- 80's with Vietnam. The regular tansport of iron coffins back to the country started to demoralize the population. Concening Afghanistan it did happen in the 18-19 th century with the UK, it happened in the 20th with the Soviet Union, and now the in 21th with NATO-US forces. In "The art of war", attributed to the ancient Chinese military strategist Sun Tzu, there are some rules that you should never "trangress" In that area they have always been done by the "invader" in several points. -Explores the five fundamental factors (the Way, seasons, terrain, leadership, and management) and seven elements that determine the outcomes of military engagements. By thinking, assessing and comparing these points, a commander can calculate his chances of victory. Habitual deviation from these calculations will ensure failure via improper action. The text stresses that war is a very grave matter for the state and must not be commenced without due consideration (that has been ommited). - Understand the economy of warfare and how success requires winning decisive engagements quickly. (that happened in the early stages but it stagnated) - the critical factors: Attack, Strategy, Alliances, Army and Cities, also the source of strength as unity, not size. (after time the unity disolved between the different protagonists - especially in trumpietrump's administration) -The importance of defending existing positions until a commander is capable of advancing from those positions in safety.The importance of recognizing strategic opportunities, and not to create opportunities for the enemy. (due to - political imposed - stagnation strategic opportunities has been given to the "enemy" ) -The use of creativity and timing in building an army's momentum. (yep in fact the political induced stagnation of liberty of action, gives you tremendous creativity to wage the "war" ) - opportunities come from the openings in the environment caused by the relative weakness of the enemy and how to respond to changes in the fluid battlefield over a given area. opportunities come from the openings in the environment caused by the relative weakness of the enemy and how to respond to changes in the fluid battlefield over a given area. - the need for flexibility in an army's responses, how to respond to shifting circumstances successfully. -the different situations in which an army finds itself as it moves through new enemy territories, and how to respond to these situations, also focusing on evaluating the intentions of others. -the three general areas of resistance (distance, dangers and barriers) and the six types of ground positions that arise from them. Each of these six field positions offers certain advantages and disadvantages. - the nine common situations (or stages) in a campaign, from scattering to deadly, and the specificl need in order to successfully navigate them. -the general use of weapons and the specific use of the environment as a weapon. This section examines the five targets for attack, the five types of environmental attack and the appropriate responses to such attacks. -the importance of developing good information sources, and specifies the five types of intelligence sources and how to best manage each of them. (one of them is never underestimate your opponent) If we take all those points of Sun Tzu and compare that how it has been applied in Vietnam by the US, Afganistan by the Soviets and the US-NATO: we will for sure see some great trangressions in those rules. To be fair some have been imposed to the "military experts" by politicians, though hey are not exempt of basic errors too. The most capital one is underestimating that "enemy", the lack of the correct info about the area. Also the stagnation of liberty of action and consequently due to the imposed limitations by the politicians the lack of the necessary creativity - some "creativity" had been intrroduced again by the soviets at the end with their spetsnaz forces and gave indeed serious probs to the Mujahideen - and talibans -. A factor that, we might say, was lacking completely within the US-NATO Forces due to imposed limitations of actions. To terminate the lack of objectives and the "eventual economical gains or losses" Biden knew for sure the "useless economical losses" in that area. He might also not have forgotten their "first Vietnam" and for sure did not underestimated those "ennemies". And we can't deny his administration contributed, for sure, the least in spending military arsenal to the Afghan government. Thus in fact he saved senseless used capital. So why has zeffie to complain? Biden saved his tax contribution in useless expenses... what trumpietrump clearly did not. So again, why complaining?  (Edited by BelgianStrider) BelgianStrider: "TheloniousSphereMonk: Zeff's a crock alright. (Edited by TheloniousSphereMonk)" What is continuously confirmed by himself. We are completely unable to deny that obvious fact. BelgianStrider: "zeffur: BSr may be evolving into an intelligent being---now we wait for millions of years to see if he can walk & chew gum at the same time. Perhaps he should pray for more cosmic radiation to potentially increase his genetic mutations rate... 48 minutes ago • Report" Zeffie: tu est tellement limité intellectuèllement que tu est contraint dans l'emploi d'attaques "ad hominem" et souvent "ad personam". Ce n'est, en effet, pas ta faute que pendant ta création le stock intelligence fut épuisé. Etant donné que la théorie de l'évolution est suivant toi foutaise, on ne peut que conclure que chez toi cela ne vas jamais s'améliorer, ton manque total d'intelligence. (Edited by BelgianStrider)  kittybobo34: Lol Zef,, evolution is backed by science , based on science. Its been proven to scientists that know their stuff, and is the law of the land in the science community, If you would bother to learn the science it might make sense to you. You have also been show a non science way of looking at it that proves the same points with the donkeys/horses and a host of other species that have drifted apart in a short time like 1000's of years instead of millennia, that prove genetic drift. zeffur: It makes perfect sense to every sane, honest, rational, critical-thinking & intelligent person---it is a complete fraud without any sound basis at all. That is why you cannot provide proof or compelling/convincing evidence with a cogent explanation that substantiates that it is valid/true. That is why it is just a theory & not a proven/verified fact.  For any honest scientist to assert that it is a fact/true--it would need to have been proven to be true--which of course it has not & it cannot be proven to be true. Pretending it is true doesn't prove that it is true. It is just another shite theory like the BBT that has no sound basis to it at all & most of what it peddles is just unproven atheistic or other nitwit beliefs/opinions that are based on lots & lots of assumptions, unproven extrapolations, & other cobbled together info that cannot be considered prove at all--which again--is the reason they are just shite theories--that only exist to falsely satiate the irrational beliefs of atheists & other nitwits so that they have an absurd belief system to cling to in vain... (Edited by zeffur) ghostgeek: Zeffur can't prove one word of the Bible is true but he continues to bore the pants off everyone with his condemnation of evolution. One wonders why. zeffur: I'm not here to prove The Bible--I'm here to expose the fact that evolution is a fraud & it's believers are incapable of proving or showing any sound case for their absurd beliefs & they are dishonest or delusional for clinging to a false belief system that they know is a fraud... zeffur: And you of course are in these forums to endlessly lie & post false assertions about The Bible...because that's the type of corrupt & dishonest person that you have chosen to be... zeffur: re: "gg: If evolution is found wanting it will, in time, be replaced. Have patience. "To be sure, the doctrine of evolution has no sound basis in truth or reality. Those who promote it hide in the shadows of biased interpretations & bad inferences that can never be proven nor falsified by anyone--which is exactly their strategy to continue to deceive & pillage humanity. I am persuaded that such behavior on the part of the representatives of the religion of evolution are not only unworthy our our time, but they are also harmful to mankind. For a doctrine which is able to maintain itself not in clear light, but only in the dark, will of necessity eventually lose all effect on mankind, but leave in it's wake incalculable harm to human progress." -- zeffur "In light of all that is truly known, the atheist is a liar because s/he rejects the truth in favor of making her/himself/something else into her/his imaginary god. Those gods are science (which is often wrong), scientists (which are often wrong), & shite theories like the BBT & evolution--which are nothing but indefensible beliefs when you get right down to the actual verifiable facts..."--zeffur (Edited by zeffur) zeffur: Hundreds of billions have been wasted on the fraud that is evolution over the past 161 years...
 TheloniousSphereMonk: I can almost see the tears running down poor zeffturd's face as he laments this "pillaging" of his fellow man.  | Science Chat Room 3 People Chatting Similar Conversations |
