Dark Matter and the age of the universe (13.8 billion years????) (Page 2) kittybobo34: Faith in a theory? The theory works until some evidence refutes it, don't see where faith comes in kittybobo34: One of the reasons the physicists are looking for extra dark matter is the fact that the inner galaxy is rotating about the same as the outer part. I have a different take on that. I think what we are looking at is a time distortion. Time is literally slower as you go inward. The black holes at the center are gigantic, this time distortion would explain allot of the factors we see out there. kittybobo34: Yet, I have never seen any of the math involved take a variable time factor into account. kittybobo34: Come to think of it, we don't have any idea how Time is distorted by gravity, Is it linearly, or is it some kind of curve. Most of us have just assumed it follows the same curve as gravitational attraction. Evelyn99: Gravity slows time down just kinda like motion to space slow time down but on earth we talking a nanosecond over 1000 years. Interesting with space dialation and space congratulations. Guess inside a black hole time kinda stand still there is no time. But time only means anything in relevances to someone or somewhere else. If you walked into a black hole you would think time is just like it always been. For me waiting somewhere else we would disagree on home much time has past since I saw you before
Evelyn99: Gps satellites have to be reset every so often because of different rates of time. Interesting enough we would still be together talking to each other even if Time is different. Events made by humans and time is two different things. kittybobo34: Eve,, think about this though, we out on the galactic spiral arm, are looking at the whole galaxy rotating around the center, in unison, but the center should be going around much faster than the outer reaches. Like Mercury zips around the sun many times before the earth makes a rotation. I am saying the reason for the slow center of the galaxy's rotation may be a time distortion. Our galaxy has a super massive black hole, with several smaller black holes rotating around it an nearly half the speed of light. (Edited by kittybobo34) David Nathaniel: A MESSAGE FOR GLOBE-HUGGERS> God sent a "strong delusion" upon all nations that they would "believe a lie" and the globe Earth is an element of the "strong delusion". Now, God sends it by allowing the deceptive agency known in scripture as "antichrist" to implement it. The bible states that the "antichrist" will be a false Christianity (apostate) and "anti" is the Greek word for substitute and the substitute Christ on Earth (anti-Christ) is the Catholic religion. That's biblical fact the evidence for which is seated in the Vatican in Rome. "Satan/Lucifer/Devil" < These are all titles attributed by God to man and even more specifically to the "antichrist" in these last days, they are not mythical creatures. The "anti Christ" (Catholic apostate Church) attributes their titles "Satan/Lucifer/Devil" to mythical creatures by way of a "fig leaf" strategy to hide their shame. The clergy are in the pay of the world while admitting the "prince of the world" is the "devil" so who or what is paying their wages according to their own words? Take away the mythical devil, demons and hell and the churches would have no power to excite the mind. The clergies are in co-partnership with their mythical construct. Now, the Catholic cosmological "heliocentric" model that so-called atheists love and worship was devised by the Jesuits for the sole purpose of countering the protestant movement sparked by such men as Martin Luther who through diligent examination of the original scriptures discovered the Catholic Church to be the "whore of Babylon" "antichrist" prophetically represented in the book of Revelation. The conception of their corrupt cosmological child was an attempt to re-cloak their exposed nakedness but no lie can live forever for the truth is eternal and now after 500yrs the cloak is coming apart at the seams and their cosmological balls are showing. Why does God allow this ? In order to reveal to the world in these last days > Rev12:9“And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: .. "2 Thessalonians 2:8, And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9, Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan"> ( anti-Christ Catholic beast system with its "legion" of demons like NASA and such like )< "with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11, And for this cause God shall send them *STRONG DELUSION*, that they should believe a lie: 12, That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." "Copernicus a canon of the Catholic church taught the heliocentric model." Catholic Belgian priest and physicist "Georges Lemaître" made what is perhaps the biggest so-called discovery in modern cosmology, "our universe is expanding". Four years later, he proposed that the universe began with a “single quantum” what is now called the big bang theory. catholic [ˈkaθ(ə)lɪk] ADJECTIVE including a wide variety of things; all-embracing. "her tastes are pretty catholic" synonyms: universal · widespread · global · worldwide · comprehensive · all-encompassing all-embracing · all-inclusive · unlimited Hollywood's Universal Pictures uses what for its Logo ? *The mark of the beast is "right hand" and "forehead." How do Catholics cross themselves with this sign?* The letters sent by John the Revelator to the Churches prophetically describe the early Church(chaste virgin) becoming the "whore of Babylon" "Antichrist." Revelation 3v16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. *Cold=faithful, Hot=zealous.* The church became wife to the state. When the Catholics married the Roman state in 324AD consummated by Constantine the "man child" and "man of sin" God spued them out for her adultery. The "man of sin" and the "man of lawlessness"" is the office held by the popes of the Catholic religion. Only in the last 5 centuries as the globe model gathered mass like a rolling snowball due to the promotion and controlled opposition of it by the Catholic church. The religious invented the heliocentric model that is taught today. They are not true believers in the Father through Christ but rather pagan sun-god worshippers with the veneer of Christianity. Egyptian based sun-god worshippers know that their God the "sun" is over the crux(cross) constellation at its lowest point in the sky at the winter solstice. Christmas is an ancient Egyptian pagan festival disguised. Christianity by law established is a "wolf in sheeps' clothing" that have set the day of sun worship on a sun-day. Little wonder then that they would conceive of an erroneous worshipped sun centred model. Lucifer the "light bringer" is referencing the sun the "morning star." Lets consider its cosmological abode for a moment shall we! Their lucifarian god the sun is seated in a bottomless black abyss containing trillions of flaming fire belching, starry incineraters, malevolent sounding black holes and dark matter. A blanket of background radiation through which wanders the mythological pagan god named so-called planets having their own grave influence upon the lonely insignificant common sense defying globe Earth.. ..spinning like a lost soul, damned, rejected and forgotten by its creator. Abandoned to an eternity of hellish uncertainty of near dis-asteroid misses and expectant demonic like alien invasions. Sound familiar? Does Dante's inferno come to mind at all? This inception of a hellish hopeless "helios"-centric nightmarish model can only have been devised and implemented by a twisted serpentine religious philosophy that deceives through the shedding of its skin, fig leaf strategies and sheeps' clothing. So-called Christians and atheists underestimate it immensely. A new book claims that Vatican astronomers are looking for extraterrestrials. And they are using LUCIFER to do it. Although it shares the same name as Christianity’s fallen angel and the personification of evil, LUCIFER is an instrument attached to a telescope. As Popular Science explains, LUCIFER is an acronym for the instruments lengthy title, “Large Binocular Telescope Near-infrared Utility with Camera and Integral Field Unit for Extragalactic Research.” This instrument is attached to the University of Arizona’s Large Binocular Telescope (LBT) located on Mt. Graham in south eastern Arizona. The Vatican-owned Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope (VATT) is right next door. The "alien" concept is a masonic Jesuit Catholic construct. To follow the "alien" concept is to follow pseudo-religion. The True God denying Catholic religion is the driving force behind the so-called modern science of the world. Not secular atheism. It is the "anti-Christ" apostate Church that has the ignorant so-called Christians and the arrogant atheists at each others throats and to be fair they deserve each other. The bible agrees with science but is at odds with pseudo-science and its cosmologies. Does it not strike you as odd that NASA are naming their projects after a pantheon of pagan gods? Not even a little bit odd, no inkling, zip, zero, zilch, nothing? The irony that atheists worship a Catholic Cosmology appears to be lost on them. Rev 13:3 ..and the whole world WONDERED after the beast. Atheists aren't religious? lol now that is bullshit! The proponents of the "globe model" who are answerable to the taxpayers and the manner in which they vehemently respond to the proposition of a flat Earth model speaks volumes about them. An angry panic is prevalent amongst most of them and yet if their heliocentrism is correct then they have nothing to worry about. I have garnered enough information on the history of the heliocentric model and the motives of those behind its inception to not trust it as far as I can throw it. Those with the most to gain from heliocentrism over the centuries have seeded it into the minds of the masses in such a manner that they defend it with a passion (even though and I am sure you will agree that the largest majority of the people of all nations have little understanding of the mechanics of the model they defend) with a religious zeal rivalling any of the major religions. The reason for that is its inception came from a religion. Now, the proponents of the globe model are happy to argue all day long about the mechanics of it and other models for most people can't be bothered with advanced arithmetic so its easy to deceive by numbers but what they most certainly cannot abide is the apocalypsing of the heliocentric globe model's parents and their motives for birthing their corrupt cosmological child. That's what all the fuss about flat Earth is really all about not the battle between mathematical and experimental models presented by people on both sides. The Catholic cosmology that atheists worship was designed to kill the Creator. The very thing that atheists cannot bear is the resurrection of the Creator through the exposition of the flat Earth. Now, be honest that's what this is really all about isn't it ? Flat Earth ain't going away its an element of the "apocalypse." APOCALYPSE > *( a Greek word which means that which is hidden revealed ).* Ignorance en masse fulfils biblical prophecy therefore "flat Earth" for the time being is only for the discernible few until the time for its full apocalyptic exposition gloriously arrives with the advent of Christ's return. Don't you recognise the end of the world ? Its happening right now! The end of the globe Earth is nigh! you are being apocalypsed and you and your Jesuit Catholic masonic masters are going to get used to it, whether you like it or not. God bless! Angry Beaver: Warning! Warning! Please don Tin Hats....you are approaching the whacko zone!!!! Dave, are you a flat earther also??? Geeze it seems like these religious nutjobs actually WELCOME this end days garbage just so they can stick it to atheists! 2 biggest pieces of absolute blarney.. Nostadamus prophecies and the bible, you can make either say what you want after the event lol (Edited by Angry Beaver) theHating: i heard a woo woo alarm in the vicinity, what seems to be the problem? *scrollscrollscrollscrollllllllscrollscrolllllll* oh man, long post.. *scrollscrollscrollscroll* okay, lets see here.. "GLOBE HUGGERS..." hmm, okay then.. could be harmless.. "GOD SENT A STRONG BONER TO HIS PEOPLE" amen, brother (Edited by theHating) Angry Beaver: https://www.shreveporttimes.com/story/news/nation/2019/04/08/black-hole-photo-what-we-see-and-how-we-see-it-einstein-wrong/3401085002/ (Post deleted by Blackshoes ) | Science Chat Room 3 People Chatting Similar Conversations |