Why are so many anti science? This includes anti GMO, anti vaccine, anti evolution, and believing in woo. (Page 3)

AretoNyx: Yes I mentioned how placebos can help ease pain, but not a cure all for everything.

lori100: Bohr reference is there.....he also told Einstein he couldn't prove the moon existed....-----------wiki-----Albert Einstein is reported to have asked his fellow physicist and friend Niels Bohr, one of the founding fathers of quantum mechanics, whether he realistically believed that 'the moon does not exist if nobody is looking at it.' To this Bohr replied that however hard he (Einstein) may try, he would not be able to prove that it does, thus giving the entire riddle the status of a kind of an infallible conjecture—one that cannot be either proved or disproved.

lori100: placebos mean mind over matter...beliefs affect the body....

AretoNyx: So you are saying moon and all forms of cancer do not exist in positive claim?

AretoNyx: If I believe earth is flat, and space does not exist that makes it true?

lori100: no...Bohr said no one can prove the moon exists...and who knows...all illness might be a result of beliefs...

lori100: can you prove about the earth and space?

AretoNyx: Oh so people being ill with disease, cancer, or anything that sends them to hospital bleeding or broken is only because of belief?

lori100: you tell me..why do some get sick and others don't?......why do some live years with cancer or AIDS and others don't?

lori100: if particles exist in more than one place at a time and can pass through seemingly solid walls then how are our concepts about time, space , and the physical world accurate???

AretoNyx: Children born with illness, or anything that sends them to hospital is because of their own belief and karma always? I do not see how you conclude in any absolute about this kind of reasoning.

AretoNyx: Are you saying caste system to others believing causes others to die or be ill like some curse?

lori100: never said that....

AretoNyx: How does your view of belief lead to illness and healing in what circumstances ? How do you really know it is only belief that causes or relieves such things?

lori100: what part does belief play in healing and illness?....

AretoNyx: Exactly what I am asking you of your claims on belief .

lori100: idk...stubborn people do seem to live longer...

AretoNyx: Lol okay, but what evidence or is that just opinion of what things seem to you Lori?

lori100: from my observation....a study many years ago showed the number one candidate likely to develop cancer was an unhappy, frustrated housewife....feeling powerless for a long time may cause illness to develop....mind affects matter....

lori100: where is the mind btw...?

AretoNyx: Yes I mentioned noceboes as well. How one can become more likely sick from to much stress and such. Though to say thought cause all disease and cancer is a bit much of a stretch.

lori100: who knows....the mind is non-physical...so our consciousness is non-physical...

AretoNyx: So are you saying only thoughts , from mind or consciousness, can make people sick with every disease and form of cancer?

lori100: idk...but I think it has a big part in it...could be all of it......and...if we make ourselves sick, we can make ourselves well....and why not affect others with healing energy and thoughts...?

AretoNyx: Sort of like in rpg games where magic heals, or something else?