Mini Ice Age? (Page 29) duncan124: I live in East Anglia and it is far below eighty. If you are thinking of the Glacier Age then you should understand that that was a one-time event that won't happen exactly or even much like it again. duncan124: From a comparison viewpoint, this winter has shown a connection to the freezing cold and strong winds that could cause snow accumulation without extra precipitation. The wind could also move dust and soil and if this Minimum continues for a time it in the same way it could explain historic changes in the soil. duncan124: Looks like a load of rubbish. And maybe someone is trying to obscure things I have posted about here. Or cash in on the Britexit slogans.  kittybobo34: What in particular do you disagree with? The cycles do match the temperature record. We have been having these very predictable ice age/warm periods for many millions of years now. duncan124: We are talking about local weather. If you were in North America you would have experienced an Arctic winter this year and could well expect a sometimes very hot summer and then another freezing winter next year. Top-down cooling seems to have been a major feature with perturbations of the higher layers of the atmosphere reaching the ground and causing snow on the higher regions of the landscape over a very wide area t the same time. We are very used to the idea of snow on your local mountain but snow on all the mountains at the same time must mean a larger weather system coming down. kittybobo34: I am in North America, we have not gone 3 days without rain since last December. I can say I have never seen a winter like this one. Usually we have snow on the ground through most of January and February, this year what little snow we had was erased in the rain. duncan124: Kitty, it still looks like a load of old rubbish. We are seeing events that we can understand, are connecting and are causing things we experience daily. Conjecture about the temperature millions of years ago is of no use when we can see cause and effect before our own eyes. The orbit of the earth does change and the rate of change experienced here on Earth had increased recently leaving some locals with far less sunlight. Things change. kittybobo34: Yes the orbit does change quite a bit as well as the tilt of the planet which is on a 22000 year cycle. I think the fact that these cycles match up with known temperatrure swings of the planet is quite significant. duncan124: Pro-Warmists debunking the Earths Cyclists;- https://www.climatecentral.org/library/faqs/how_do_we_know_it_is_not_a_natural_cycle Reality debunking the warmists---we know there is not enough industry left to cause C02 emissions and so we can not afford the gas anyway---and anyway, the Earth has been warmer. So that really knocks on the head anything about rising oceans. We could be heading for a Medieval Warm Period, but at the moment we are at Solar Minimum and if that continues we could face a Mini Ice Age! kittybobo34: Not enough industry left? Its all over the world now. There is more manufacturing in Shanghai than in all the USA. The amount of carbon in the air, is slightly more than 50% from fossil fuels, and the oceans have absorbed their limit of the excess carbon. (and don't forget the Methane that is bubbling up) Yes the world was warmer than now, at the height of the Roman Empire, by almost 2 degrees , after that we started slipping back toward ice age. So the fact that we are warming now is against the odds. You seem to put allot into the sun cycles which are 11 year cycles, yet I am not aware of any major effects on an 11 year basis. (Edited by kittybobo34) duncan124: You must read the posts in this thread. This is too late to go back over all these things already discussed. Yes, there are contradictions if you believe all the scientist's claims but instead, we use the science we can share and observe ourselves either directly or through scientific instruments which we can sometimes access via the internet. kittybobo34: Ok, I know there is a lot of controversy about all this, I am pretty sure the next 10 years will settle the score as to which is more correct. duncan124: The link between sunspot numbers and the weather is well proven and there are a lot of websites that explain it and its history. kittybobo34: Sunspots are on an 11 year cycle, can't say I have seen that effect on the weather. To take the longer look, when our sun was smaller and less intense, our planet was warmer, because of the green house affect. duncan124: Sunspotology at the moment says that the two sunspots on the Sun are , one from Cycle 24 and two , the other one, is magnetically mixed and producing Solar Flares so could indicate another deep Minimum or very slow peak for cycle 25, duncan124: Portugal faces fire threats as customers plan holidays. "Fire alerts across the Algarve IN NEWS · 26-03-2019 São Brás de Alportel has been placed on maximum fire alert for today due the prevailing weather conditions. A further seven councils in the Algarve are on red alert, with the Portuguese Met Office listing Lagos, Portimão, Monchique, Silves, Tavira, Alcoutim and Castro Marim as areas of concern for today." ThePortugalNews. SWE has satellite images claiming to show the smoke from wildfires. duncan124: "The stratospheric PV is currently centered close to northern Greenland and is predicted to remain there over the next two weeks (Figure 12). The stratospheric PV is predicted to weaken over the next two weeks in part due to the strong WAFz pulse and also the increasing solar radiation. Eventually the increasing solar radiation will lead to the collapse of the stratospheric PV known as the Final Warming" DR Cohen AER. Looking on Nullschool at 10hPa the PV has already lost its circular figure and is breaking up. This seasonal shift to the south should bring stronger weather. But the Solar Minimum may mean a longer transition, and in fact to far less weather, and another long hot summer in Europe. Hey Ho! Another Medieval Warm Period???  (Post deleted by staff ) duncan124: "More than half the country experiencing drought IN NEWS · 28-03-2019 With extended forecasts showing little or no chance of rain, it has been revealed that more than half of the country is currently in a state of drought. The Government has already requested water tankers prepare to supply worst affected areas with their most urgent water supplies. According to latest data, the Western Algarve is the hardest hit by the current lack of rainfall, and has been classified as being in a state of extreme drought. " TPN More of Less?? Solar Minimum weather leaves Portugal drier?? (Post deleted by staff ) duncan124: "With fires ongoing in parts of Portugal, Spain, Croatia and Italy right now - ..."SWE 30.03.19 Slight changes in the Sun's irradiance may be causing significant changes in its heating effect on Earth. The difference between the way the ocean and ground absorb heat from the Sun may also be significantly changing the weather and the environment. In the UK it is noticeable that while the wind may be cold it is quite warm in the sun and for example, cars can become quite warm in a short time. The content of the sunlight might have changed due to less water, dust or the temperature of the atmosphere. A weakened magnetic field will also allow more radiation to reach the ground which would affect metal items (Post deleted by staff ) | Science Chat Room 1 Person Chatting Similar Conversations |