The Trauma Theory of Mental Illness: Was Freud Right? (Page 5) robertbatchelor: My problems are nothing to do with voices but I have talked to people hear voices. It happens and worth hearing about it. Those who have no idea are on SNAP OUT OF IT which is not possible .  echidnatas: Ok I can see this is hanging in the realms of imagination.Mental illness is suprisingly an illness and it has causes not always understood,there are physical treatments the least effective being a good talk on its own.The most effective is one or more of of several physical type treatments along with counseling and support. My point being ? Seek the expertise of people with expertise And listen carefully,I did say people so that means more than one.From there ...up to you robertbatchelor: I find it impossible to get help as getting them to lidten AND WALK A MILE IN MY SHOES THEY ARE NORMAL AND HAVE NO IDEA WHAT mental illness IS IN DIFFERENT PEOPLE YET THEY GET PAID .  new_tauresa: Robert.surely the experts must have taken a history of your symptoms....They don't need to listen to you all the time telling them the same thing. The experts need to treat your symptoms, give them time to do so. Robert or do you just wanna live in your own world? We don't all need to get HIV to understand it's an illness. robertbatchelor: tHIS IS SO GFEW AND FAR BETWEEN.The trext books are not to limited to the actual words on the page it must allow variation in sime areas Because not everyone respomndes to illness in the exact same ways. I had this I was feeding a habit. I will I caould have changed places with my counsellor . Then an our said I could do anything he coild do. after 80 years in my life I wish he wwas paying me LOL. new_tauresa: Robert. .have you studied what he has studied?Or is a grandiose complex another of your illnesses? robertbatchelor: I have Social Anxiety Disorder and is varies a lot from person to person. Many learn to play act in real life . robertbatchelor: I am in South Australia if that helps. The so called experts cannot understand me as I play act my way through life. A professor at Cambridge University I went to school with said I was quiet & reserved LOL that was close I am silent & withdrawn in my natural state . new_tauresa: We all have different states of being. We all adapt to situations too and decide which state of being to display. We may be quiet and reserved at work but with friends, we act differently, with a lover, differently again.etc robertbatchelor: I wish I understood LOVE when I was being DATED . YES girls dated me I was scared of then. But I needed help.  BananaLord: Tauresa , what are the other ways other than getting hold of Trauma by practicing vocally ! Thats really a good read. Please let us know your thought once you finished that ! new_tauresa: I went to reddit and a guy there is talking about a new method used by using a get happy drug and discussing the trauma under that happy state..He said he was cured....now most likely addicted to the get happy drug lol  Zanjan: Echidnatas: "And all those years gaining a degree and doctorate has been a waste." Some doctors are better than others and it takes a long time to find the appropriate one. By that, I mean that one can see evidence of progress. Physicians should continue learning and keep a sharp eye out for things that have worked for others. A lot of people don't realize many so called new methods are really old ones. I didn't mean to suggest it was as easy as telling a problem to go away; I was being brief, just to make a point. She learned something about the nature of thought and used visualization so that the thoughts went through her and kept on going, since they have no substance. It's not like I'd give a course on it here. Suffice to say, she was in a trauma group and everyone had some success with it - she was the worst case in the group. Trauma is anything that has attacked and crippled one, even a bad parental upbringing. Some of the best advice, after all other approaches are tried, has come from an ordinary friend who found success with something simple, though not always instant. This is true for any health problem. While drugs will help with an emergency, that plan should be temporary while other methods are tried. Ideally, one should be weaned away from psychotropics; very few people with mental illness need to be institutionalized. This is not a society that likes to accept that a different way of life and being is ok for some. (Edited by Zanjan) Zanjan: Robert, you are right, what works for one may not work for another - it might actually kill them. Very few doctors really know their patients - what they know, the patient tells them. The best plan is to bring along a supporter to an appointment, someone who knows you well and can remember certain things you don't and even think of certain questions you wouldn't. The key is progress - tiny increments are better than none. Nothing remains static - if one isn't going forward, they're going backward. Maintenance is an illusion. While maintaining control one either gradually gets a grip on it, or feeds into more dependence. I understand you're looking to the past......usually though, you can't see a lot of difference in yourself unless it's in a long range view - others will tell us the difference before we, ourselves, see it. You mentioned "getting around the obstructions" - good point. A crippled person has to learn their own way to navigate, provided he has a mode of transportation. robertbatchelor: Zanjan You are so understanding. In religion & health you agree with me more than anyone. I do find the people like doctors I go to Never walk a mile in my shoes. So I go away disappointed. I did find a good doctor but both of them moved away to big east cost cities. I find it hard to find a friend even. People as so rivetted in their world . I have counsellor train yet I cannot stand back from my life and see me as I want see. To help as I have helped others. My life in some ways has been amazing. But I was never the boy I wanted to be and never normal like others boys. People saw me as GAY but I was only uncontrolabley SHY . Zanjan: I'm thankful we have a special clubhouse in town - only those with a history of psychiatric treatment or visits can be members, although they can have guests. It's the envy of the town - everything you'd want a clubhouse to be so, we like to lasso a member and befriend them so we can get in on the action. Government funds it but it's a rare bird - only one in the big city. Not nearly enough. Members run the place by volunteering while a psychiatric nurse is always on hand, full time. They have all kinds of functions and day trips, live music, short courses, talk groups, planning mtgs, walking groups, home made meals from its kitchen, cheap, like only $3 can each. The list goes on. The place always has members spending time there from morning to evening. The biggest help comes from the members themselves; they're very friendly and make sure no one is a fly on the wall. These people are functional, some even hold down paid jobs and for those who don't, they have something important to do. No one is alone; all have friends. There's not nearly enough advocates for this kind of project though. In Canada, last summer, one so afflicted made a commitment to advertise the needs - you might have heard of "Clara's Big Ride"; she rode a blue bicycle across Canada, and it got amazing media coverage for mental illness. One person who made something of herself despite so many challenges never ceases to inspire. new_tauresa: Robert is never too late to nurture the boy the way you wanted him to be nurtured...YOU will do the nurturing to yourself, treat yourself with kindness and respect, buy yourself treats even toys you always wanted to have in yur childhood buy never got them. There are tons of books on this subject cheap in Amazon | Science Chat Room 1 Person Chatting Similar Conversations |