Who owns the moon? (Page 5)

Corwin: You don't make me sad, you make me face-palm.

I think you would require many years of dedicated study before you would be capable of "showing" me anything other than your blatant lack of understanding of subjects relating to Science.

Corwin: Lori's "Scientists either believe what I do or they're wrong" thread that way ------>

(sorry Lipton, the thread crapping will end here)
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I own the Moon.

Geoff: Scientists believe in science - which is "that which be proven".

They may argue about what they said - but considering the advancement of knowledge, within forty years Einstein would be considered "slow".

Or, to use another phrase, "A conspiracy nut."

LiptonCambell: Huh? This is my thread?

Holy shit it is!

I can delete lori! Woot!

lori100: see? ^^ .. .... biased...there was no reason to delete my posts....admit it....

orangemoon8: Can I lay claim to the Moon?, an Orange one....lol, no one owns the Moon, or Mars or Saturn and it's diamond rain. Even Titan, with it's all methane atmosphere, but they would be neat places for humans to see up close.

Corwin: I only own Earth's Moon, but I'd really like to get my hands on the Galilean moons in the Jovian system as well. Ganymede looks like a great location for a hotel/casino/refueling-station for when the colonial starships start making their pilgrimage to the Alpha Centauri / Alpha Proxima system.

quarks:
I own the galaxy and Corvin rent is overdo.
Please pay past bill on space in space or move your moon or I will be foreclosing.
-_-

Corwin: AHH!!

Galactic Emperor Glaxnog has a Wireclub account now!!

Just give me a bit more time... once I get that Sony billboard up there I'm certain I can cover the overdue rent plus interest.

quarks:
This is pleasing. Sounds best sollution for us both!

lori100: found this when I searched to prove the Mars moon Phobos is fake....------DATELINE: January 2, 2013 - “NASA mulls plan to drag asteroid into moon’s orbit”
New Scientist reports that,


“…NASA is considering a proposal to capture an asteroid and drag it into the moon’s orbit… by the 2020’s.”

The article says that,


“Robotically bringing a (7m-wide) asteroid to the moon…would be a more attractive step” to allow further robotic probes, “…and maybe even humans.”

More importantly, New Scientist says,

“Such work could help develop ways to use asteroid material for construction or spaceship fuels, making it a stepping stone for human missions to larger asteroids and eventually to Mars.” (3)

Corwin: You were searching to prove that Phobos is fake??

Good luck with that.

lori100: yes...it's true...see mars and aliens threads...same as the Earth moon which 'rang like a bell' for hours when the astronauts landed on it....---------"-We conclude that the interior of Phobos likely contains large voids. When applied to various hypotheses bearing on the origin of Phobos, these results are inconsistent with the proposition that Phobos is a captured asteroid."

The full reference in GRL will be:

Andert, T. P., P. Rosenblatt, M. Pätzold, B. Hausler, V. Dehant, G.L. Tyler, and J. C. Marty(2010), Precise Mass Determination and the Nature of Phobos, Geophys. Res. Lett., doi:10.1029/2009GL041829, in press. (accepted 22 March 2010)

lori100: ---------“What in blazes is our Moon doing way out there? It’s too far out to be a true satellite of Earth , it is too big to have been captured by the Earth. The chances of such a capture having been effected and the Moon then having taken up a nearly circular orbit about the Earth are too small to make such an eventuality credible. . . . But, then, if the Moon is neither a true satellite of the Earth nor a captured one, what is it?” – Isaac Asimov, Asimov on Astronomy,” Doubleday, 1974; Mercury Press 1963; also quoted in Don Wilson’s book, Our Mysterious Spaceship Moon (1975)----------Isaac Asimov,
American author and professor of biochemistry at Boston University and Science Fiction writer. Asimov was one of the most prolific writers of all time.:

"We cannot help but come to the conclusion that the Moon by rights ought not to be there. The fact that it is, is one of the strokes of luck almost too good to accept… Small planets, such as Earth, with weak gravitational fields, might well lack satellites… … In general then, when a planet does have satellites, those satellites are much smaller than the planet itself. Therefore, even if the Earth has a satellite, there would be every reason to suspect… that at best it would be a tiny world, perhaps 30 miles in diameter. But that is not so. Earth not only has a satellite, but it is a giant satellite, 2160 miles in diameter. How is it then, that tiny Earth has one? Amazing."--------------soooo.....both Earth moon and Mars 'moon' Phobos are hollow and fake....who put them there?.....aliens anyone?....

lori100: heyyy this one says the moon doesn't exist....---redicecreations---Irwin Shapiro,
Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics

“The best possible explanation for the Moon is observational error – the Moon doesn’t exist.’

"The Moon is bigger than it should be, apparently older than it should be and much lighter in mass than it should be. It occupies an unlikely orbit and is so extraordinary that all existing explanations for its presence are fraught with difficulties are none of them could be considered remotely watertight."--------------------------Dr. Gordon MacDonald,
NASA

"it would seem that the Moon is more like a hollow than a homogenous sphere’. He surmised that the data must have been wrong – but it wasn’t."----------Dr. Sean C Solomon,
Massachusetts Institute of Technology

"The Lunar Orbiter experiments had vastly improved knowledge of the Moon’s gravitational field and indicated the frightening possibility that the Moon might be hollow."------------Ken Johnson,
Supervisor of the Data and Photo Control department during the Apollo missions

"The Moon not only rang like a bell, but the whole Moon wobbled in such a precise way that it was almost as though it had gigantic hydraulic damper struts inside it." Moon rocks have been found to contain processed metals, including brass and mica, and the elements Uranium 236 and Neptunium 237 that have never been found to occur naturally. ------Dr Harold Urey,
Nobel Prize for Chemistry

"I’m terribly puzzled by the rocks from the Moon and in particular of their titanium content."------------Dr. Robin Brett,
NASA Scientist

"It seems much easier to explain the nonexistence of the moon than its existence." --------------------------Dr S Ross Taylor,
Geochemist of lunar chemical analysis,

Said the problem was that maria plains the size of Texas had to be covered with melted rock containing fluid titanium. He said you would not expect titanium ever to be hot enough to do that, even on Earth, and no one has ever suggested that the Moon was hotter than the Earth.

"What could distribute titanium in this way? Highly advanced technology developed and operated by entities that are immensely more technologically advance than humans."----------------Mikhail Vasin, Alexander Shcherbakov,
Societ Academy of Sciences, 1970.

"Is the moon a creation of an alien intelligence?"

lori100: sooo....come on science fans....ready to admit our moon and phobos are artificial?-------------Whitley Strieber----"-But what is the moon? Is the scientific theory that the moon is the result of a huge impact with Earth by a Mars-sized object billions of years ago correct? If not, then where did it come from? And, given that higher forms couldn't exist on Earth without the moon slowing down it's rotational winds, could it be that our system is not natural at all, but something that was actually designed billions of years ago by some vastly capable unknown presence? "

LiptonCambell: I'm willing to grant that we need to study mars's moons more. They definately are unique amoung our solar systems moons....but them being usual doesn't automatically mean they're part of an alien plot. Uranus Rotates sideways- the only planet known to do so- is that part of the alien plot? Or is the universe strange, and worth additional study?

I think the problem with you Lori is you want to always have an answer for everything- that there is no "unusual" or even "unexplained"- you use every unexplained circumstance to justify your preconceived belief- God of the gaps, if it were.

Everything has a purpose and a reason- and you refuse to believe that maybe, just maybe, there are things we cannot explain- and that the correct response isn't to attribute them to aliens, or God, or time travellers, or alternative universes, or space whales, or tiny people who live inbetween the walls- but merely acknowledge that we don't know, and to actively study the subject until we do.

You seem terrified by the idea of not knowing something so badly that you cling to any belief that gives you hope that theres a greater purpose and meaning behind it all.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_of_the_gaps

lori100: well...at least you are considering Mars' phobos and maybe the others are fake and might have been made by aliens or God and put there....that's progress.....we might find out more about Uranus, too.....I'm not terrified of not knowing somethings...lol..---------.I don't know...I just think it is true our moon and phobos are fake and hollow and were put there by higher intelligences...the evidence is pointing to it...even the scientists are saying it^^^ ( and on alien thread)...-----------------.I tend to believe when aliens and non-physical beings have repeatedly told people that the Earth is a school....(our planet is unique obviously---denotes a special reason for it)...that it was created for our education at our level...and that likely the moon was (as Strieber^^ stated) put in place to slow the winds so we and all life could exist here and make progress....Asimov^^ and other scientists are saying that the moon's existence is not an accident......

LiptonCambell: I'm not suggesting they're 'fake' at all. Even your own scientific source says- they doubt its an asteroid captured by mars- it doesn't say anything about it being 'fake'- that's your spin

I'm suggesting these scientists may or may not be right- that they are unique satellites in our solar system, and there may be more to them that we understand.

>>>I just think it is true our moon and phobos are fake and hollow and were put there by higher intelligences

Exactly. You are comforted by the idea that there's someone out there pulling the strings- this isn't about the facts, but rather about your own self-gratification.