Do you believe in Aliens? (Page 198)

ghostgeek: But can you trust an alien to tell it to you straight?

zeffur: Sometimes trust is your best option. Other times it is your worst option.

From the description in Revelation, it seems possible that New Jerusalem won't happen until after our sun goes super nova.

ghostgeek: What if our entire universe is part of an alien simulation and there's a glitch in the programme? Then nothing would make sense.

ghostgeek: Could be why nothing seems to make sense.

zeffur: That's a possibility. Trump is clearly a virus program. lol

ghostgeek: He does have a knack for worming his way through life.

Searchonglostfrndask: I saw a UFO and president trump both try to make it through life without being sighted *

Searchonglostfrndask: lol*

ghostgeek: I saw a UFO once, too. Trouble was, when I had a look at it through some binoculars, it turned out to be a balloon.

ghostgeek: Many a hope has crashed when examined too closely.

zeffur: I've seen many UFOs. The trouble is that my inability to identify any of them means that I can't honestly say any of them carried ETs. lol

ghostgeek: I once saw a hand-held balloon soar up into a cloudless sky until it was a dot. Ended up looking like a classic UFO.

ghostgeek: Too many people see what they want to see rather than seeing what is actually before them.

MJ59: Do you believe in Aliens?

Narrrrrrrrrrr

zeffur: re: "Angry Beaver: Do you believe in Aliens? Narrrrrrrrrrr "

Of course not--there couldn't possibly be other life in a universe that has billions of trillions of stars in it...

MJ59: Well
Bible woulda mentioned em otherwise

zeffur: re: "Angry Beaver: Well Bible woulda mentioned em otherwise "

It has.

ghostgeek: According to at least one person on Wireclub life can't get going on its own. Without something not-of-this-universe endowing a soup of chemicals with life, there wouldn't be Micky and Minnie Mouse. So far he hasn't been proved wrong.

zeffur: Can you enlighten us with the natural mechanisms that cause nonliving materials to become living organisms without any outside intelligence applied? If you can prove it, I'm pretty sure you'll get a Nobel prize for it.

MJ59: Them aliens dun it

zeffur: re: "Angry Beaver: Them aliens dun it "

Seems like the only reasonable possibility--nature sure doesn't seem to be able to do it on its own.

ghostgeek: It could be evidence that points to us being part of an alien simulation of their universe.

m_leonora1111: My friends aliens are here, some outside, and some in humans and animals body.

ghostgeek: That's what Stephen King tells us.

Lumpenproletariat: zeffur: re: "Lumpenproletariat: If there are aliens, the best explanation is that they are really of earth origin, not distant planets or galaxies, and they are descendants of dinosaurs which survived the mass extinction 60 million years ago.

They have since evolved into something similar to human form..."

Given that evolution is an unproven belief & nothing more, it's likely what you believe isn't true at all.

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It might be "unproven" in the sense that we can never prove with 100% certainty what happened a million or billion years ago, but the increasing probability keeps getting stronger that our ancestors emerged as part of the same animal kingdom which produced the other primates and their predecessors.

The evidence for evolution is very strong, in the sense that if this is not the way humans emerged on the planet, over the millions of years, then there is no other explanation how humans appeared in earth history.

The evidence is that 10-20 million years ago our ancestors were subhumans, similar to some primates today, being of lower intelligence, and that their descendants developed to a higher level eventually, over thousands of generations of adapting and improving their genetic traits. Finally, 2000 years ago, someone of superhuman origin intervened in human history, when human intelligence had advanced far enough, and gave us evidence that eternal life is possible, and told us the value of believing per se as a condition to gain eternal life. This was at a point when human consciousness had advanced far enough to appreciate the fact of knowledge and science and faith based on evidence, and to have beliefs and hopes for the future as the primitive humans could not.

There was nothing SUDDEN in this development, from the period of less thinking ability to the later period of higher thinking/believing ability. But the superhuman intervention into history had to happen at a point in history, at a certain time, to give us the evidence that eternal life is possible, as an event which could be recorded and communicated to humans, as something to become part of our knowledge, or our reasoning and thinking and understanding, which is what makes us superior to other life forms and worth preserving instead of being annihilated according to the normal process of individual living organisms appearing and surviving for a time and then being extinguished.

Anthropology has discovered enough remains in order to prove the gradual advancement of humans, and development of other species, showing the gradual increasing complexity in the fossil record, from the earliest known organisms up to the latest. Humans are the latest, most recent life forms, with other complex life forms shortly earlier, in very consistent layers of fossil remains, showing the simplest forms down at the lowest levels, with the more complex forms gradually appearing in the higher and higher levels.

The patterns of increasing complexity, of increasing abilities, more complex nervous systems, increasing brain complexity and ability to think and do problem-solving, is undeniable and is documented again and again in the various discoveries.

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"The fairy tale myth of evolution is only believable to atheists & nitwits."

That's obviously not true, as more and believers are accepting evolution and allowing it to be taught in all the institutions of learning because of the overwhelming evidence from science. Most religious institutions have included it one way or another, Christian and Jewish and others, and have only added the qualifier that there is still a God who controls the process of evolution, however it took place.

And the Creation story is modified and made symbolic enough to accommodate the findings of science. E.g., the millions of years are no longer a problem, and the facts of geology and astronomy are accepted, while the geocentric theory and other earlier theories have been displaced by the more recent findings. 99% of hard scientists believe humans descended from earlier pre-human primitive life forms, which in turn descended farther and farther back to some beginning of life which probably cannot be explained.

The evolution theory is not necessarily tied in to one particular theory about the very Beginning, the Big Bang, etc., which yet has not been explained. Rather, the evidence for evolution is about the process, gradually, over millions of years, of increasing complexity, up to the present time of complex forms.

AND AS TO THE ALIENS, if this happened, the best possible explanation of these, in all the claims about sightings and encounters of one kind or another, is that they are OF EARTH ORIGIN, somehow, because there is no way to explain how any alien intelligent life form could have arrived to earth from distant galaxies billions of light years away. The findings of science are making this possible explanation more and more difficult.

But there is nothing preventing the possibility that they evolved as earthlings, from primitive life, millions of years ago, having escaped annihilation in the mass extinction, along with some others which survived. Nothing prevents the possibility that those life forms could have evolved to a form in some ways superior to present humans, e.g., having more advanced technology.