Do you believe in Aliens? (Page 159) mmickey782: nnever mind looking for “aliens” out in space… get you life right with God! it was to earth that Jesus came to save us, not to another planet to save another race of beings because there is none.....Duh!  Corwin: Mickey... you don't know that. How do you know that God didn't create dozens, or hundreds, or thousands, or even millions of inhabited planets throughout the galaxy? And maybe Jesus went to all of those planets as well to save them too? Oh, and I told you before... Religion Forums are that way -----> (Edited by Corwin)  briansmythe: why are they spending all this money on Probes to mars probes to where ever to look for traces of life , When they could just go on Utube Or go ask the Russians for an Into to there Space men   ghostgeek: When we can get there, wherever "there" is, then we'll know that "they" can get here. Until that happy day, unless an alien walks up and shakes you by the hand, what's out there will be 99% speculation and 1% ignorance.  Jesssaa: LOL, Ghost - what you say is true. Nevertheless, speculation IS interesting. I personally believe aliens are out there somewhere, and they are thinking, living things. I do not for one second believe there 'must be water' or that they would be even remotely humanoid. Nor to I believe that their thought-processes would be even remotely similar to those of a human. And before you ask, yes, I believe that God created them, too, even if they never get found, even if they come to destroy us for their pleasure. For all we know, they could be wonderful critters who happen to carry a virus of some sort that kills everyone except for them, or they come down and proceed to ignore us totally. Maybe they are ignoring us NOW.  hrlydude: Yeah i believe in aliens but they don;t come across the border as much now since Trump is President  Blackshoes: Interesting Subject . Does Life exist on other planets and did God create life elsewhere ' like he did here on Earth . I don't believe it does . Yet : how does anyone come too a reasonable conclusion Because Space is so Big and theres Trillions of Planets and Stars . Many assume there has too be life out there Interesting assumption Yet that's all it is 'assumption ! (Edited by Blackshoes) ghostgeek: Many assume that God exists and created life here on planet earth. All in all an even more heroic assumption than thinking life exists elsewhere in the universe. It will be interesting to see if either assumption is ever proven to have a basis in fact. Blackshoes: Well Ghost It's clear that we're here .God either created us or he didn't. Noting the complexity of DNA and life in general it's a good Assumption That God created all things just as stated by the Eye witnesses within the historical records ( the Bible ) I'll say no more here about God , due to it's a Alien forum  After all Trump is doing his best to solve the Alien invasion problem  (Edited by Blackshoes) ghostgeek: The world's financial system is more than a little complex but nobody, as far as I know, blames God for that sad fact. Complexity is evidence for one thing only: that things can be complex. Blackshoes: Odd didn't someone Create the Financial system or did Aliens do that also I believe Steven Hawkins stated that Aliens mite not be such a good thing (Edited by Blackshoes) Blackshoes: As My father would say easy to buy ' hard too sell . Like the saying goes " Why would any intelligent life bother Visiting here " (Edited by Blackshoes) mmickey782: .WHATTTTTTTT??? maybe we'll see those aliens waving at us??? there are no UFOs, no santa and flying rain dears, no bunnies laying easter eggs ,tooth fairy and all other fake tales. in fact, there’s no evidence that aliens even exist! and never mind looking for “aliens” out in space… get you life right with God!  duncan124: Is there an intellectual connection between refuting the Bible and proving or not that Aliens exist? ...and easily compatible with "... get you life right with God! " ghostgeek: The time to believe in aliens is when they start to deliver the christmas mail, and the time to start believing in God is when He dresses up in a Santa costume and starts to dish out the prezzies for the kids. Blackshoes: OMG This has Discussion is falling over the edge of None topic behavior . The supposed Aliens', would never approve . We Really need the Wall ghostgeek: It's a side effect of a warp drive. You get where you're going but you don't know you're there. Blackshoes: OK 99.99 % of ALL UFO sighting are either fuzzy unidentified or just plain Hoaxes' However ; Occasionally something like this comes along that just bewilders me and makes me scratch my head and think WTF is going on One would think that Navy and Airforce Pilots are as reliable as one can get ? This just doesn't make sense ? "Good Morning America Navy pilot recalls encounter with UFO: 'I think it was not from this world' Retired Cmdr. David Fravor spent 18 years as a Navy pilot, but nothing prepared him for what he witnessed during a routine training mission on Nov. 14, 2004. "I can tell you, I think it was not from this world," Fravor told ABC News. "I'm not crazy, haven't been drinking. It was — after 18 years of flying, I've seen pretty much about everything that I can see in that realm, and this was nothing close." PHOTO: An unidentified flying object shown in a photo first obtained by the New York Times. (Obtained by ABC News) Fravor's stunning retelling of his encounter off the California coast with what appeared to be a 40-foot-long wingless object that flew at incredible speeds in an erratic pattern comes as the Pentagon revealed the existence of a secret program to investigate sightings of UFOs. The program was shut down in 2012 because of other budget priorities, according to the Pentagon. "I have never seen anything in my life, in my history of flying that has the performance, the acceleration — keep in mind this thing had no wings," Fravor said. He recalled flying his F/A-18 fighter on a training mission on a beautiful Southern California day 13 years ago when things started to get strange. Controllers on one of the Navy ships on the water below reported objects that were dropping out of the sky from 80,000 feet and going "straight back up," Fravor said. PHOTO: Former Navy Commander David Fravor told ABC News about his encounter with what he believed was a UFO. (Obtained by ABC News) "So we're thinking, OK, this is going to be interesting," he said. As they were looking around for the object that appeared on the radar, another aviator spotted something. "I was like, 'Dude, do you see that?'" Fravor recalled saying. Once secret, now closed UFO program confirmed by Pentagon “We look down, we see a white disturbance in the water, like something's under the surface, and the waves are breaking over, but we see next to it, and it's flying around, and it's this little white Tic Tac, and it's moving around — left, right, forward, back, just random," he said. The object didn't display the rotor wash typical of a helicopter or jet wash from a plane, he said. The planes flew lower to investigate the object, which started to mirror their movements before disappearing, Fravor said. "As we start to cut across, it rapidly accelerates, climbs past our altitude and disappears," Fravor recalled. "When it started to near us, as we started to descend towards it coming up, it was flying in the elongated way, so it's [like] a Tic Tac, with the roundish end going in the forward direction ... I don't know what it is. I don't know what I saw. I just know it was really impressive, really fast, and I would like to fly it," he said. The disturbance in the water also vanished with object, he remembered. "So we turned around — we couldn't have been more than about a couple miles away — and there's no white water at all in the ocean," Fravor said. "It's just blue." At that point, they decided to return to complete the training exercise when they were told the object or something similar reappeared. "And the controller comes up and says, 'Sir, you're not going to believe this. That thing is at your half point,' which is our hold point," Fravor added. "And I'm like, 'Oh, great.'" Another plane that launched from the aircraft carrier USS Nimitz around the same time had its radar jammed and was able to pick up the object on an infrared channel. "He gets close enough to see a couple of objects come out of the bottom, and then all of a sudden it takes off and goes right off the side of the screen and, like, takes off," Fravor said. He recalled that the speed of the object, which he said had no exhaust trail in infrared scanning, was stunning. "No aircraft that we know of can fly at those speeds, maneuver like that and looks like that," ABC News contributor and former Marine Col. Stephen Ganyard said. Fravor said there is no rational explanation for what they saw that day. "I don't know if it was alien life, but I will say that in an infinite universe, with multiple galaxies that we know of, that if we're the only planet with life, it's a pretty lonely universe." There was no further investigation into the incident, he said. "You know, you see a lot of interesting things," Fravor said. "But to show up on something that's a 40-foot-long white Tic Tac with no wings that can move, really, in any random direction that it wants and go from hovering over the ocean to mirroring us to accelerating to the point where it just disappears — like, poof, then it was gone." https://www.yahoo.com/gma/navy-pilot-recalls-encounter-ufo-think-not-world-160503613--abc-news-topstories.html (Edited by Blackshoes) Blackshoes: How Could it be possible that a tiny craft ( about 40 feet long ) would be able too cross the universe Corwin: It probably isn't possible. And it's far more likely that if they were chasing an advanced aircraft of some kind, it came from China, not from another planet. That secret Pentagon program they referred to was the Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program (or AATIP), intended to identify advanced military aircraft threats to national defense and security from other nations... not from outer space.  You take a declassified program like that, and some retired ex-military guy who's down on his luck and could use a few extra bucks in exchange for some fantastic story (given a false sense of credibility because he's ex-military), and you have a recipe for an embellished BS news story that appeals to conspiracy-hungry Americans to boost ratings. Then they plaster the term "UFO" all over the story, because impressionable people have got it into their heads that UFO means "Space Aliens". UFO means exactly what it says... unidentified flying object - an aircraft of some kind that isn't yet identified. If somebody sees an aircraft and they don't know exactly what it is, jumping to the conclusion that it comes from another planet is beyond ridiculous. That story hasn't got anything impressive or new... a blurry smudge on a few frames of video, and some anecdotal-evidence / hearsay. | Science Chat Room 1 Person Chatting Similar Conversations |
