What about if Aliens dont exist , and we are it ? (Page 4)
angpd: I find this an interesting question. If you are talking about today i think it is quite possible this is the case since I think intelligent life is a fleeting thing. If you are talking about the total time since the big bang, I'm not so sure.
AchillesSinatra: "I've never heard anything so stupid"
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maxaman2010: There is a zero chance that in all the vastness of the Universe, little, tiny Earth is the only place where life exists.
Cygnus X: Worrying about alien life is pointless and wasted energy. We cannot now, or in the far future, even develop space travel safe enough to go interstellar to "find new places to live".
Humans will be long dead before the discovery of life with any significant intelligence is ever found. Chalk it up to the vast distances in space where habitable life sustaining worlds are spread too far apart.
shadowline: I've always thought that the most likely thing was that, if there is intelligent life elsewhere in the galaxy - leaving aside for the moment all the other galaxies, because they're at such immense distances that it doesn't seem as if we can ever know anything about them - it is probably extremely rare.
Life, and intelligent life, there may be, but a "Star Trek" universe in which there is another civilization around every corner, so to speak, is probably pure fantasy. I'm not basing this on anyone's calculations, but, speaking for myself, I wouldn't be surprised to find that life comparable to ourselves has only happened, say, two other times in this entire galaxy, and that the instances of it are so far from one another that contact of any kind between them is impossible.
Ergo, it is also quite conceivable that we are in fact completely alone - which would seem to me to make us one of two things: either we are what existence is all about, and the universe exists so that we can be in it (which seems remarkably wasteful) or, we are an accidental by-product of the monumental grindings of nature with as much meaning to us as inevitability - i.e. none.
But the latter possibility is the greater mystery. That creatures capable of understanding the physics behind visible phenomena, capable of creating the entirety of human artistic achievement, capable of thought, language, and imagination, are as significant a consequence of existence as the veriest speck of dust, is harder to get your head around than that we are the children of an all powerful Deity.
The question here, though, seems to be, what do we do? And we've been doing that for about a hundred thousand years. And the last five thousand have been amazing.
Blackshoes: Ain't that the dying truth ! Chernobyl alone has proven that without a doubt !
Sorry about My off topic comment However : It's Just wishful thinking and hope, on my part that the Human race smartens up
"The nuclear power plant accident at Chernobyl was repeated, albeit with a different set of circumstances, at Fukushima. Have our societies yet learned any lessons from Chernobyl and Fukushima that will prevent the people of the future from experiencing such devastation? As poet Maya Angelou points out, “History, despite its wrenching pain, cannot be unlived, but if faced with courage doesn’t need to be lived again.” We need the courage to phase out nuclear power globally and replace it with energy conservation and renewable energy sources. In doing so, we will not only be acting responsibly with regard to nuclear power, but will also reduce the risks of nuclear weapons proliferation and strengthen the global foundations for the abolition of these weapons."
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chronology: Guys, people in some places must be bewildered to say the least. In the 1950s and 60s there was endless and earnest public debate of how the 'Space Brothers' were here to save mankind from impending nuclear destruction from A Bombs. There is only one problem there, there were no A Bombs, and Hiroshima along with Nagasaki were very clever hoaxes by the U.S. to end the war and save millions of Japanese lives and homes from destruction.
So are the 'Space Brothers' so slow that the U.S. Army can fool them? or are we just seeing people being carried along with mass hysteria? Seems like mass hysteria is most likely. It would be too stern to say people who claimed to be carried away on flying saucers and brought back to earth were liars, maybe they really believed their own stories.
George Knapp the American talk show host summed up the whole Alien thing best when he stated at a conference he was speaking at in Europe that 'U.F.O.s most likely fall into 3 categories. 1 secret military aviation that will some day be made public like the U2 and Blackbird planes. 2 classified aviation that we will never see in public such as the rumoured 'Aurora' hypersonic jet and the Black Triangle anti gravity craft. 3 quite frankly the inexplicable flying craft that fit into no known pigeon hole of sightings. They are not hologrames or nuts and bolts craft. Yet they fly streight into the side of mountains or rise up out of the sea and fly off. Some one somewhere is building and flying these weird craft. Are the 'someones' Aliens or a long established highly developed race that would rather leave the planet than openly share it with 'humans' ?
George Knapp does not think we will ever know the answer. He seems to be right there. A hundred years ago all over America people were seeing and even meeting the pilots and crews of Airships. To this day Washington has never made public just what the huge craft were doing or were they were going to or coming from. When a giant craft crashed in Aurora Texas the story was it was an urban myth or a 'spaceship from Mars' . That was over a hundred years ago. The documents about the crash are probably still locked up in Washington, along with thousands of other Airship historical documents.
The flying Squirrel: iIs alway Chemoble , Nothing about 5 mile Island or all the testing in the pacific
Evelyn99: You are here so aliens exist earth is just as place in the vast universe as any other point