Is psychology a science? (Page 8)

StuckInTheSixties
StuckInTheSixties:

Perhaps psychology is a "protoscience."

"Protoscience is a term sometimes used to describe a hypothesis that has not yet been adequately tested by the scientific method, but which is otherwise consistent with existing science or which, where inconsistent, offers reasonable account of the inconsistency. It may also describe the transition from a body of practical knowledge into a scientific field."

I found that definition in a Wiki article on "pseudoscience" ...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudoscience

There is apparently also a Wiki article on "protoscience," but when attempting to access it, all that would happen was that I would get a momentary glimpse of that article, and then be "redirected" back to the pseudoscience article.

Weird ...

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StuckInTheSixties
StuckInTheSixties:

WARNING!

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Don't go to that website! It is a trap! If you enter that website, it automatically invades your computer with extremely harmful malware that will mess up your system!

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oh_good_laughs
oh_good_laughs: hmmm, grounded in science, scientist, protoscience.. alot of science
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USEtheUSER
USEtheUSER: Since when wikipedia is science ?
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hellbhoy
hellbhoy: Oxford dictionary definition of science = systematic study and knowledge of natural or physical phenomena ; any branch of study concerned with observed material facts.

Yes psychology is a science in it's own right.
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hellbhoy
hellbhoy: ONE BAR science is not only measurement and experiment with exact or clinical results.If that's your view on it half the science departments would not exist.And science is from Latin for knowledge,so if psychology is the acquisition of knowledge of the mind then it's science.
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hellbhoy
hellbhoy: One bar ! total rubbish there coz your talking about exact science there and that's just like all the other branches of different science and like I said if that's your argument we may as well close up the theoretical science departments gave gave rise to the exact science departments.
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Comrade_
Comrade_: Why would Psychology want to be labelled as a Science?

When people refer to science they think of Biology, Physics, Chemistry, etc. A universal, steady, straight-forward concept. If you put in X you will get Y, and nothing changes through time or culture. With psychology when you put in X you may or may not get Y...you might get Z, depending on if X had psychological problems..

haa nvm nvm..ah carry on.
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oh_good_laughs
oh_good_laughs: This.. method - experiment and measurement.. Does psychology NOT have this?
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Comrade_
Comrade_: there's more to it than experiment and measurement. The experiments must be based on a system that can't be changed. You do the experiment with controls and constants. Nothing left for human interpretation, the data will speak for itself. What variables you use in Psychology?
The measurements are what in psychology? Can you use those measurements over time and not have them change with culture or any other interference?
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StuckInTheSixties
StuckInTheSixties:

risen_sun86 says:
"This.. method - experiment and measurement.. Does psychology NOT have this?"

Yes ... umm ... or No ... umm ... you're statement contains that negative qualifier in there that makes a reply in this fashion a bit clumsy. Let me modify it, if I may, to make this all clearer:

risen_sun86 says (statement modified) :
"This.. method - experiment and measurement.. Does psychology have this?"

Yes.

When it's applied statistically to large "sets" of people. The larger the "set," the better the measurement. It's very reliable, very "scientific" when applied this way.

But when applied to the individual?

No.

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hellbhoy
hellbhoy: Even exact science comes up with a curve ball when the data suggests otherwise.The data from Cern in the hydron collider and the protons traveling apparently faster than light.Several experiments later and the data still came up with the same conclusion even though the known data and variables stated otherwise and Einstein was apparently wrong.
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StuckInTheSixties
StuckInTheSixties:

And by that, you extrapolate that psychology IS a science, or that psychology IS NOT a science?

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hellbhoy
hellbhoy: NO SITS I was pointing out that even accepted science parameters sometimes are not always correct and definitive and cannot be changed manipulated or in any way shaped otherwise.

Ask any university if psychology is a science and you'll get of course it is,it's the science of the mind and how it works.
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CoIin
CoIin: Why are we still talking dictionaries?

A dictionary definition only reflects the way a word is commonly used. Under "mackeral" it says "a fish". Case closed.
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hellbhoy
hellbhoy: colonian ! EH ? none of my last few posts have anything dictionary about them.
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oh_good_laughs
oh_good_laughs: .. speaking of psychology, Tyrion really psychology lost it when he sneaked in to the Tower of the Hand..
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CoIin
CoIin: @ Hellboy

Ok, cool

and haven't seen you for months. Where ya been? And how's dear ole Glesca?
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hellbhoy
hellbhoy: HEY COL it's freezing up here wi some Siberian weather front FFS and we should expect minus degrees for weeks.
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