Is psychology a science? (Page 3)

StuckInTheSixties
StuckInTheSixties:

Bullshit.

The amount of knowledge, both personal, and societal, has changed immensely.

Culture has changed.

The arts have changed.

Readers, what else has changed?

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CoIin
CoIin: swimsuits
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StuckInTheSixties
StuckInTheSixties:

(laughs)

Cuisine has changed.

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oh_good_laughs
oh_good_laughs: We think of mankind as being slow in the b.c. realm. Why?, every generation has built upon each other.
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Karma
Karma: Language has changed.
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StuckInTheSixties
StuckInTheSixties:

risen says:
"We think of mankind as being slow in the b.c. realm. Why?, every generation has built upon each other."

Not necessarily that the people had less intelligence. Who knows about that? There's no possible way to judge, other than that a few people left historical legacies indicating that they were pretty damn smart. But as a whole? Who knows?

But as you say, every generation has built upon each other. So the further back you go, the less they had to "build on," as you say. I wouldn't call that "slow."

But certainly they had less information. They didn't have the technology that succeeding generations acquired, so their "wealth" of knowledge was less.

So let's say that rather than being slower, they were less knowledgeable. I doubt many would dispute that.

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Harlet
Harlet: Love how some of ye fellas, are taking the bulls did bullsh*t out of your opining !!!!!!! instead of piling more of it into !!!! facinating reads............going on in this forum,
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Hman204
Hman204: And if it is, can it explain how every thread dissolves into an argument between science and evolution? When the oldest branches of Chsitianity, with the most followers, both accept evolution as 'how God get's things done.'?


Just ask George Carlin. He'll tell you all about it.
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CourtGesture
CourtGesture: Science is not absolute, not all things are understood and the human brain is a very complex machine. In short, if you go to a psychologist and it works for you, then the science is good.
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StuckInTheSixties
StuckInTheSixties:

And if you go to a psychologist and it doesn't work for you?

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CourtGesture
CourtGesture: Like I said, not all things are understood and the human brain is a very complex machine. You do the math. There could be various reasons it doesn't work. Tens of thousands of reasons in fact. Anybody home????
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spankdmonkey
spankdmonkey: Its open to interpretation .Who accredits what as being science ? Psychology is more or less behaviour paterns..I done 4 months at UNI in the 80s before throwing it in due to circumstances at the time .But i also done more then a year on practical and theory helping out at a psychological clinics learning different ways to help and discover patients problems goal setting decissional balancing ,To be honest it was very hard because you probably have to learn more then you would in chemistry .Some of the psychs and doctors of psychology are absolutely brilliant how they work and you see things unfold .You could call it a Science or even a ART .I have never heard a psychologist be called a scientist though .A doctor yes a scientist no
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StuckInTheSixties
StuckInTheSixties:

spankd says:
"Its open to interpretation"

Precisely. This is why I don't consider psychology, when applied to the individual, science.

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memberX
memberX: psychology is just one of the best brain gymnastics( there are few more), considering the fact that people are using only 10 % of their brain...

with respectable and available science up to date...we can not be proud too much....cause science comes from the brain as well as previous knowledge...


there fore i would't place it in the science category...its more in the category of ingenuity...

haahahaahaah
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Harlet
Harlet: I like ^^^^^^^^ very good..
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oh_good_laughs
oh_good_laughs: Psychology is an amalgam of science and philosophy. To state that psychology isn't science, would be acting the part of a rustic bumpkin.
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rain
rain: i agree risensun. further, psychology is an art, it requires a balance between theoretical knowlege and life experience. that is why one must choose a psychologyst very carefully. particularly considering that the bulk of those who can afford to become a doctor are far too wealthy to truly understand the plight of common man/woman.
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oh_good_laughs
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CoIin
CoIin: "rustic bumpkin" - that's twice you've said that. What have you been reading, Risen?
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oh_good_laughs
oh_good_laughs: haha Colin, i hesitated before i used it the 2nd time, then shrugged it off, it is an ample amount. This is a new term of mine.. like a new toy, i WANT to use it.
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memberX
memberX: If Sits gets you...you psychology lovers...he will diminish you right away, with his para- logical ""googled out" science proofs...and then you will see...
ahahahahaaaa
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brittisuomiseka
brittisuomiseka: @stuck in the sixties, aren't you mixing psychology with sociology?

@everyone else, dunno how the conversation got so heated on creation vs evolution right away, when *is psychology a science doesn't have anything to do with that question.

= then my answer is - of course psychology is a science. psychology is the study of the mind through scientific methods of investigation. that's all.

peace.
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StuckInTheSixties
StuckInTheSixties:

brittisuomiseka says:
"@stuck in the sixties, aren't you mixing psychology with sociology?"

No, I don't think so. Obviously, those branches are related, but I've been speaking only about psychology.

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SaffronSnaps
SaffronSnaps: Is it possible that psychology IS a science but that it is currently in it's infancy?
The human mind is largely unexplored and currently difficult to explore further.
So hypotheses are necessary and further examination/study/tests.

If objectivity is applied to observable data is that not science?

In the scientific study of the physical world improvements are made to technique, knowledge, understanding. This happens all the time. Yet no-one questions whether that is science.

A scientist gets it wrong but he is still a scientist. A psychologist gets it wrong and he's a quack who doesn't know what he's talking about. Seems a little unfair. If the nature of what you are studying is changeable then it stands to reason that your understanding will be limited.
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Harlet
Harlet: doesn't the fact, that not all patients are truthful,have something too do,with how successful or not a psychologist is .....
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