Can Science Exist without Evolution? (Page 3) oh_good_laughs: Pfft, well said Sits, on page 2.. Yea Sits, all scientific advancements are because of Evolution. The concept of Evolution, led us to everything we know today. Heck, motor vehicles are therefore upon us because of Evolution. Aircrafts is upon us now because this idea of Evolution came around. Texting and driving is illegal in Indiana now because of the idea of Evolution.. Without Darwin's idea Sits, we would never have moved from the era we were in. We would, for the first time in mankind's history, just stop advancing.. Good call. oh_good_laughs: Also, Sits is exercising his copy and pasting talents. As he loves to point out, lack of ones own thoughts. I guess anything to be on topic is kind of a plus eh? oh_good_laughs: For those who get giggly when defending Evolution, you do understand the big bang thing, that life originating from a single organism, is just an idea right? Ah, laughing too long makes my side hurt. XFixYourBrainX: Deep says, well, since science has a principle of not considering unverifiable theories, and there is NO way to Prove what cannot be observed (the past), i would say that trying to explain the origin of the universe is just as "unscientific" as considering the "god hypothesis". That makes science look contradicting. XFixYourBrainX: Believing in evolutionary theory is comforting. Belief is a comforting thought process for weak minded individuals that have biases towards other beliefs. Because having no belief is a frightening thought to have because it makes them feel alone, without others conforming to the same thought and belief processes. When people don't conform they feel alone or left out. When people don't conform they feel as if they are wrong, naive, or stupid, but this is what society has imposed psychologically subconsciously on others. I can only assume people have little psychological control of their thoughts in society without society having a subconscious influence on others. XFixYourBrainX: Risen says, "The big bang thing," "is just an idea right." A theory is a belief. The big bang theory cannot be observed, logic thinks, "I know what I see". Theory is a believable guess educated or not, its directed toward convincing without disputing and that goes for any theory. Most naive, fools are swept up off their feet because of belief. Their problem is they rely on belief instead of relying on doubt to question. They don't question if it makes sense, they do question how it happened, then they are fed spoonfuls of stories because they are told not to question but have faith. They are told to have unquestionable faith, and believe in God, but don't believe in what might make sense like believing they came from apes, but no they are too good to come from apes because they have knowledge that others don't have that is supreme and above others because they have a God that is powerful and mighty. So they take comfort in trying to become like God and maybe they will be followed like christ, which is funny because it pushes them to go even further in unquestioning faith to think they will gain more supreme knowledge than others. Then religious fanatics are born. LiptonCambell: >>>that life originating from a single organism, is just an idea right? Yes, just as creationism is just an idea. The difference between the two ideas, though, is there is evidence that directly contradicts creationism.... oh_good_laughs: Lipton.. hm, vain argument.. there is evidence that contradicts 'life originating from a single organism' as well. Evidence is circumstantial. oh_good_laughs: Ah Lipton, if you aren't sure there is plenty of research on it out there.. Don't really feel like playing catch up today. oh_good_laughs: You obviously know very little on the subject then, as i had thought. You've shown signs of google-knowledge before, perhaps you can run across the information there. Juba_The_Sniper: Obviously there is a mountain of empirical evidence that points to the fact that we all originated from the garden of Eden. inb4 'the garden of eden was metaphor' Juba_The_Sniper: 'defending Evolution, you do understand the big bang thing' defending the laws of Thermodynamics you dont understand anything about hanging curtains? oh_good_laughs: Juba, Creationism is based on faith. The big bang is, an idea. Faith-Idea, tomAto-tomatO oh_good_laughs: I'm not really saying faith is an idea, but in a scientific perspective, they weigh about the same. Juba_The_Sniper: Creationism is based on faith. The big bang is, an idea. Creationism is based on faith. The big bang is a theory based on peer reviewed science, both observational and mathematical. It is self correcting, so ideas are modified as new observations are added to the evidence. The creationist theory teaches us to be satisfied with not knowing. Are you defending creationism? Juba_The_Sniper: 'I'm not really saying faith is an idea, but in a scientific perspective, they weigh about the same.' BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I think we have a new definition for the word 'ignorance' oh_good_laughs: Theory, in the common context, means a scientific idea.. You've said, the idea is modified, the idea is self correcting.. No matter what you do with an idea, it's still an idea. Juba_The_Sniper: 'Theory, in the common context, means a scientific idea' lolwut? we are discussing theories in a scientific context. But i refuse to be drawn into debate with a creationist as its like trying to explain a card trick to a dog. Nevertheless i will be popping in occasionally to correct your inadequate knowledge of science. Juba_The_Sniper: An idea is substantially different from a scientific theory. The moon being made from green cheese, that we were all made from mud and magic are ideas. you're a little confused. what is your definition of a scientific theory? | Science Chat Room 3 People Chatting Similar Conversations |