Evolution is a Bad Idea (Page 85)
kittybobo34: Blackshoes,, I hope you are around when they figure out how abiogenisis works. Please send a picture of your face when you realized you have been wrong all these years.
Angry Beaver: How can he be wrong...he knows "the truth" according to his criteria
And yet he's not prepared to show us his tits
Scientific Debate On Evolution
J: Hi, I'm Jerry Coyne
B: Hi, I'm Bobbi Blackshoes
J: I'm Professor Emeritus in the Department of Ecology and Evolution at the University of Chicago
B: I sit in mum's basement on the internet trolling chat forums
J: I have a PHd in Evolution and Biology, i feel qualified to debate this subject
B: HA!! I have watched over 5,000 creation videos on You Tube, I'm way more qualified!
J: But I studied at Harvard and the Rockefeller University and got my PHd in evolution and Biology?
B: 5000 Y O U.... T U B E... V I D S game over, you don't have the skill to debate me!
J: But I have written dozens of books and scientific, peer reviewed papers!
B: YOU TUBE.... are you deaf, go away, I know THE TRUTH
B: My god that man's dumb everybody knows abiogenesis is IMPOSSIBLE (unless god did it)
B: I don't even have to defend my hypocricy because....GOD! Hahahahahaha I win.. stupid atheists and scientists
B: Gosh I even have proof where 1 or 2 athesist scientists reject ToE!!!
Blackshoes: Kitty. I'll be around forever and ever. Them's the facts Jack! Believe me, there are times I wish It wasn't so.
You like most evolutionists, you are required to believe in the abiogenesis. Otherwise, you would have to accept the fact that, Abiogenesis is neither scientific or even plausible.
Ask any biochemist, if their unbias and honest they will tell you the truth.
Like so many of ToEs' assumptions, it requires huge amounts of faith to accept such unrealistic and illogical assumptions.
You have been conditioned to accept it because, it's what you want to believe, accept, and just plain tickles your ears.
The science clearly denies the religious belief that all ToEs followers adhere to.
Simply put: Evolution is a religious belief without God.
You are a very intelligent person like so many others that need to believe a false and unrealistic hypothesis' you cannot see the forrest pass the trees.
kittybobo34: That video seems pretty typical, claiming to have some highly educated person who doesn't seem to know the basics of his science.
1) He mentions Galapagoes as Darwins muse, but forgets that the islands are new, the creatures on it have changed from the original versions from the mainland, and even from each other, depending on the island and its unique environment. Those changes might be considered new information which isn't supposed to happen per creationist views.
2) This expert in the video says birds are from reptiles, when actually they are from dinosaurs. then he goes into great detail how birds are so different from reptiles they couldn't have come from them. (no kidding). Dinosaurs were 3 toed, warm blooded, and some had rudimentary feathers (from imprints in fossilized finds), they also had the circulating lung systems that birds have.
3) Then the video goes back to the Galapagos to tell us about the loss of information leading to flightless cormorants. This happens allot when species aren't using something (like eyeless fish in caves) The cormorants on the other hand are better swimmers than their cousins, in affect they are taking the same steps that Penguins took, once again showing us how natural selection can drive change. This is a good example of a species change in direction. The flightless version is now on a different evolutionary path than its flighted cousins. In a few thousand years you will see some major differences, in a few million you won't recognize they were ever one species.
Blackshoes: The Science and opinions within the Video are far sounder than ToEs ridiculous explanations.
You're so sure of ToEs claims, you refuse to see beyond it's assumptions, and truly look at the facts!
Without the addition of NEW information within the genome? All of ToE's assumptions dead end.
No matter how much one can rearrange or change the information within a model T to make other cars. You will not, nor can ever build a Saturn five Rocket.
There is no microbiological evidence for any macroevolutionary paradigms whatsoever.
With all, science knows now' ToE's assumptions are a thing of the pass.
kittybobo34: Blackshoes,, you do realize that all animal life, plant life etc, is the same information, just re arranged. We are all made up of the same DNA with the same 4 proteins per chain. This new informaton bs is just a smoke screen.
Blackshoes: Kitty That would only make sense if Orphan genes did not exist. Orphan genes are not rearrangements. Orphan genes are NEW information. Orphan genes are specific to all species 'which clearly indicate special creation.
It 's wishful thinking to say otherwise.
Also " Darwinists admit there must be at least something like 512 steps to create a new function, we would expect to find many
gene duplicates that are genetic intermediates - close to the size of an average
codons), without a "stop"
codon in the coding part, and with a properly located and at least minimally effective
promoter and TFIIB binding regions. There is also likely the need for the intermediate to have a
sequence-specific region nearby to trigger
DNA rearrangement and expose the
promoter region for transcription. A secondary mechanism for the source of genetic raw material for the evolution of complexity, namely the co-opting of one of the two
alleles of a polymorphic
gene and slowly modifying one of them, has a similar expectation, in that we should expect to find many
alleles in our genome that have different shapes and functions, with both having a positive selection coefficient in the same
gene. These things should be able to be verified now that the physical
genome mapping of humans is basically complete. So far, no evolutionist has provided any genetic evidence of the plethora of intermediates that would be necessary to affirm their mechanism of producing complexity."
Angry Beaver: Blackie "abiogenesis is IMPOSSIBLE"
Also blackie God created the world from nothing IE abiogenesis
Stop your lying hypocritical stance just because you hate science and atheists
Pls explain how abiogenesis is possible when you have categorically stated 3,475 times that it isnt
Blackshoes: I have never stated any such thing Angry! I stated that God created all things! You'll have ask God what he created all things from. I would normally tell you', however it's pointless to give pearls to swine or argue with a fool!
Yet a Liar and accuser know nothing of the truth!
Blackshoes: * Left-handed amino acids in space are still for the most part unverified!
Yet it does look that it is plausible and likely. That still doesn't change the fact that there is no evidence that we have had any bombardment of amino acids within the fossil record,
"Stardust passed through dense gas and dust surrounding the icy nucleus of Wild 2 (pronounced "Vilt-2" on January 2, 2004. As the spacecraft flew through this material, a special collection grid filled with aerogel – a novel sponge-like material that's more than 99 percent empty space – gently captured samples of the comet's gas and dust. The grid was stowed in a capsule which detached from the spacecraft and parachuted to Earth on January 15, 2006. Since then, scientists around the world have been busy analyzing the samples to learn the secrets of comet formation and our solar system's history.
This is an artist's concept of particle hits on the aerogel collection grid. The greenish areas represent the aerogel. Hits are the light green teardrop-shaped areas. Particles are represented by dots at the tips of the teardrops. Credit: NASA/JPL
"We actually analyzed aluminum foil from the sides of tiny chambers that hold the aerogel in the collection grid," said Elsila. "As gas molecules passed through the aerogel, some stuck to the foil. We spent two years testing and developing our equipment to make it accurate and sensitive enough to analyze such incredibly tiny samples."
Earlier, preliminary analysis in the Goddard labs detected glycine in both the foil and a sample of the aerogel. *However, since glycine is used by terrestrial life, at first the team was unable to rule out contamination from sources on Earth. "It was possible that the glycine we found originated from handling or manufacture of the Stardust spacecraft itself," said Elsila. The new research used isotopic analysis of the foil to rule out that possibility.
Isotopes are versions of an element with different weights or masses; for example, the most common carbon atom, Carbon 12, has six protons and six neutrons in its center (nucleus). However, the Carbon 13 isotope is heavier because it has an extra neutron in its nucleus. A glycine molecule from space will tend to have more of the heavier Carbon 13 atoms in it than glycine that's from Earth. That is what the team found. "We discovered that the Stardust-returned glycine has an extraterrestrial carbon isotope signature, indicating that it originated on the comet," said Elsila.
The team includes Dr. Daniel Glavin and Dr. Jason Dworkin of NASA Goddard. "Based on the foil and aerogel results it is highly probable that the entire comet-exposed side of the Stardust sample collection grid is coated with glycine that formed in space," adds Glavin. "
kittybobo34: That would be interesting if they found a majority of left handed amino acids vs right handed. It would lend lots of odds to the concept of Panspermia.
Blackshoes: Not at all',it would simply mean amino acids are common throughout the universe.
Abiogenesis is impossible! Just because you find aluminum throughout the universe. Doesn't give you any better odds that there could thousands of Boeing 777 flying around there throughout the universe
kittybobo34: My point about the amino acids is that in spontaneous generation there should be equal numbers of left handed and right handed amino acids. On Earth all life is based on left handed ones. It's thought that this version won out in forming life first. But, if space is full of left handed ones then life is more likely to have come from there.
Blackshoes: So if space is filled with aluminum. Boeing 747 most likely came from space?
Amazing sounds like some kind of miracle
Everything about Life screams design and creation, Without any possibility of Abiogenesis! Evolution has no beginning! James Tour and a number of very intelligent men and women don't see any of ToEs' assumptions as valid science.
Blackshoes: LOL Angry : that's not even close to a knowledgeable or intelligent response LOL
"The theory of evolution is false. It is simply not true. Actually, it is just a fairy tale for adults based on ancient pagan religious philosophy that hundreds of millions of people around the world choose to believe with blind faith. When asked to produce evidence for the theory of evolution, most adults in the western world come up totally blank. When pressed, most people will mumble something about how “most scientists believe it” and how that is good enough for them. This kind of anti-intellectualism even runs rampant on our college campuses. If you doubt this, just go to a college campus some time and start asking students why they believe in evolution. Very few of them will actually be able to give you any real reasons why they believe it. Most of them just have blind faith in the priest class in our society (“the scientists”). But is what our priest class telling us actually true? When Charles Darwin popularized the theory of evolution, he didn’t actually have any evidence that it was true. And since then the missing evidence has still not materialized. Most Americans would be absolutely shocked to learn that most of what is taught as “truth” about evolution is actually the product of the overactive imaginations of members of the scientific community. They so badly want to believe that it is true that they will go to extraordinary lengths to defend their fairy tale. They keep insisting that the theory of evolution has been “proven” and that it is beyond debate. Meanwhile, most average people are intimidated into accepting the “truth” about evolution because they don’t want to appear to be “stupid” to everyone else."
kittybobo34: And yet it still seems to work with the evidence found so far even after 150 years,, weird huh
Blackshoes: Not according to any real science discovered in the last 150 years. Of course, ToE makes up, and twist everything to fit its assumptions. I love how ToE has twisted Orphan genes, and DNA to fit its imagination.
No matter how much ToE has tried to twist and pervert the Impossibility of Abiogenesis
Only those that reject Science, all common sense, logic, and reason can be fooled by such ridiculous imaginations", that origin is by chance, unknown processes, imagined oceans of Amino acids, and eons of time.