Evolution is a Bad Idea (Page 8)

Geoff
Geoff: How many times do I have to tell you that the fossil record isn't even the strongest evidence for evolution? Yes, it gives us an insight into the past, but it the theory is not predicated upon it.

The diversity of, and yet similarities between, the species living on Earth right now are the best evidence. The physiognomy, genetics, and geographic dispersal all point to common origins between species.
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PeterW60
PeterW60: Well said, Geoff
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duncan124
duncan124:

Well then give us a link to any serious website that relies on the factors you have listed to support the Evolution theory.

As Genetics was not invented when C D published his book I doubt that was ever used to support his ideas.
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Geoff
Geoff: Try researching yourself. There's are a lot of scientific textbooks out there which will explain that.

In layman's terms, here's an article from Scientific American that explains it clearly.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-fossil-fallacy/

While you're at it, here's a list of common misconceptions about evolution, and I have seen most of these trotted out at one time or another by people on this thread and others, so I'll include this link as well. It was compiled at Berkeley.
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/misconceptions_faq.php
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Blackshoes
Blackshoes: Geoff ( Try researching Evolution yourself ) Without the religious bias !
Again you assume all research must be carried out by those that agree with Evolution .
Genetic do not support Tran species development !
Number of Chromosome's do not 'nor can show common origins ,without Huge assumptions ,and conclusion ', without evidence on how it could had happen !
Nor is there any evidence of it happening present time !
Without facts and evidence ! Evolution logically should be abandoned !

Geographic dispersal means little to nothing on how species could have evolved into another species !

Falling back on Darwins faith in anthroposcopy ',maybe just as racist as he was ?



"The diversity of, and yet similarities between, the species living on Earth right now are the best evidence. The physiognomy, genetics, and geographic dispersal all point to common origins between species. "
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duncan124
duncan124:

That website seems to also support cruelty to dogs by comparing them to wolves and claiming dogs are made by man. As that is patently untrue and as it claims to be a US website it must be suspected of being racist as well.
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duncan124
duncan124:

Geographic dispersal tends to support other theories of selection and the main being that animals choose where to go , eg Cows who form herds of their own type.
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Geoff
Geoff: Actually I believe that research should be carried out by those who understand the subject.
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Geoff
Geoff: And Duncan dogs didn't naturally evolve from wolves. Humans specifically bred them from wild canines.

That process has been demonstrated with foxes in Russia.
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Blackshoes
Blackshoes: True Geographic dispersal "MAY support " selection? Yet : It MAY Not !
If you only use Geographic Dispersal !
All other *evidence rejects Evolutionary theories

*Biogenesis ,DNA ,RNA ,The fossil record , The hundreds if not thousand of Microbiological roadblocks within all specie .The absents of Present day Microbiological changes , The Absents of Scientific prove replicating life without live !


(Edited by Blackshoes)
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duncan124
duncan124:
What??? " Humans specifically bred them from wild canines " Geoff

Which the wolves or the dogs??

That is an illegal argument in the USA due to their problems with racism ; and utter rubbish everywhere.

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Geoff
Geoff:
1. Evolution does not attempt to explain the origins of life on this planet. I will keep repeating this until you stop saying that it does.
2. Life changes on a molecular now, which is why you need a new 'flu shot each year.

The geographic dispersal coupled with physiognomy, cellular microbiology, and genetics of the species does indeed support evolution.

In the first edition of Pahu's rambling drivel thread about evolution, Corwin, Lipton, and I went through each and every point of religiously motivied drivel that copypasta'd in and explained in simple terms why it was nonsense.
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duncan124
duncan124:

The same with cows . Humans selected the breeds we have still and worked hard to keep them in good health but all the breeds we have were there to start with and maybe a few more.
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Geoff
Geoff: Duncan, evolutionary science has no bearing on sociological issues, and anyone who attempts to use it as such misunderstands evolution. It certainly is no justification for racism.
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Geoff
Geoff: Duncan, that is utter nonsense. Cows (like all domesticated species) were bred from their wild predecessors into their current range of breeds. That is the very difference between domesticated and merely tame.
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duncan124
duncan124:
Wrong. Racists have often used evolutionary ideas to support their hate crimes and today we recognise that racism is one mental health problem.
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duncan124
duncan124:

Wrong. All cow breeds existed before humans started to catch them. A brief look at human history will show this and if you still disagree then find a website that proves you claim and explain how the various breeds were obtained!
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duncan124
duncan124:

" evolutionary science has no bearing on sociological issues " Geoff.

"... and I went through each and every point of religiously motivied drivel..." Geoff.

There is a problem with these two statements.
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lori100
lori100: message for Geoff from...someone....""physiognomy" is the now widely discredited doctrine that a personality can be read from one's face" and "please explicate the exact relationship that evidence bears on the theory"
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Geoff
Geoff: "the outward appearance of something"
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lori100
lori100: person said you did not address the evidence and used the wrong word
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Geoff
Geoff: Well, physiology would fit as well.

Tell Colin I said "hi".
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Geoff
Geoff: In answer to the other point; if someone presented actual evidence, instead of baseless refutations and the pseudoscientific equivalent of gaslighting, I'd respond to it.

Of course it would help to get questions or statements phrased in coherent English (that comment was not aimed at you, Lori, you're being lucid and to the point, which I do appreciate).
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duncan124
duncan124:
So how exactly does...

"The diversity of, and yet similarities between, the species living on Earth ...., genetics, and geographic dispersal all point to common origins between species."???

When common sense suggests that they were all made separately, or at least very many of them were.

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Blackshoes
Blackshoes: "1. Evolution does not attempt to explain the origins of life on this planet. I will keep repeating this until you stop saying that it does.
2. Life changes on a molecular now, which is why you need a new 'flu shot each year.""
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1 Evolution doesn't bother using evidence to explain anything with in it's Ludacris theory !
2 That's BS', No life has evolved from any syringe or test tube !
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