Most atheists dont know about science (Page 4)
mmickey782: ----------> atheists don't know anything, and they been brainwashed into believing there no God. so case closed!
Blackshoes: Intelligent or Ignorance is not perquisite for Belief '.Whether they're Believers or Unbelievers
The "Truth or Proof " is subject to the Judgment of the Observer of the Evidence, and facts presented .
I see ', as many believers do ,the Glory of God in his Creation ,and the Variety of Life, and the Universe
The Atheist is Blinded by his unbelief ',and rejects that God create all things ', rather they chose accept a *Pseudoscience ,and chance ',as the author of all things
Time will soon tell , which is the fool' and which has been Wise enough to accept ,the Eye witness reports of all things
* Present Day Science Clearly shows the Folly of DNA or Abiogenesis Developing or coming about by chance
Kaninchen: Most people misunderstand what the word atheist means: the popular and erroneous assumption is that atheist *believes* that God does not exist, when most all atheists just don't positively believe in God because of lack of evidence and accept the possibility of God, given adequate evidence - most of us are very open minded, so don't mislead yourselves and come to worthless conclusions. Thank you..
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kittybobo34: I was under the impression that an agnostic is one that accepts the possibility of God, but an atheist denies the existence of God or Gods. Even God believed in Gods, "have no other Gods before me" quote, never once did he say there are no other Gods.
Kaninchen: Atheists can be agnostic - atheism just means
that the person does not subscribe to religion.
Blackshoes: IMO Most if not many Atheist are not at all open minded . Just as a number of Believers can be !
As far as evidence is concern the World itself is all the evidence most wise Men need, to accept God creation . Those that cannot see the ,Science ,Wonder ,Beauty , Variety of Life ,and the Universe are lost to fairytales ,and Psudoscience that tickle they're ears
terryanderson1986: I believe we can only talk to god while handling snakes, I believe when he talks to us we speak in babbling tongues, I believe babies that are not sprinkled on the head go to hell, I believe only men can be cardinals bishops or popes, I believe god gives a shit about what we eat, how we prepare it and on what day we eat which food, .. I believe my believes are best believed on acid or at least good mushrooms.
Blackshoes: Terry I believe You 're a liar . I believe you think you see when you're just another blind Atheist
Always rejecting the truth . Like all those that accept lies and assumption .You never look into the mirror thinking yourself Wise.
You can either accept that Jesus rose from the dead so/as to Save the blind to prove his words an action and open the hearts and minds of the weak and lost .
Believe now 'or believe it when you face him at judgment day !
25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. 26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot*; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence. 27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house: 28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. 29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. 30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. 31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
kittybobo34: Wondering if Blackshoe, realizes that the version he is quoting is a translation of a translation, or a translation, and they didn't bother to check the meaning of words back then at all. Also the name Jesus was originally a Koine Greek word, from their historical son of a God who sacrificed himself for mankind. All this was a 1000 years before the biblical Jesus. Almost makes one wonder if somehow the legend got swapped over in the telling of tall tales. You have to remember, the earliest documented writing, Luke I think was 60 years after the crusifiction supposedly happened.
terryanderson1986: Blackstone all those passages are from the old testament.... which word for word was copied from the Torah.... Are you Hebrew? I don't think many Christians have considered that just because you slap a new chapter on the end of a best seller that makes it a new book.
Blackshoes: Kitty The Bible is the most accurate text to date !
You also reject that God exist, and that Christians have a personal knowledge, and relationship with Jesus .
It's no secret that any intelligent discussion or conversation needs to be done without personal attacks or emotional involvement . It generally create a learning and enjoyable environment for both sides
You're welcome to your opinion .Terry everyone has a right to be wrong
kittybobo34: "Christians have a personal knowledge, and relationship with Jesus ." as do Muslims with Allah, and Buddists, and about a 1000 other Gods that their believers feel they have a connection with. That is a common human failing. Superstition takes many forms.
"The Bible is the most accurate text to date !" That's not saying much given the sloppy record keeping of the time. The accuracy of the bible, drops drastically as you go back in time.
terryanderson1986: Saying I'm wrong doesn't contradict what I said..... by the which of the 12 or so odd version of the bible is the one you believe is accurate..... If you say the King James version then your a true comedian,,, the most accurate would have to be the Torah, the first as you Christians call it "Old Testament" or is it the Mormon bible that you prefer. ... I could respect being a Buddhist at least they have built in logic and don't kill,burn or torture non believers and believe all life is sacred.. they even try not to step on ants ...
Blackshoes: Nor does Assumptions , Semantics,Rhetoric make your faith in your own ignorance of God' any more correct . I know what I know ! What others believe ,is in God hands .Not mine .
You assume that you know that which you( If Honest ) must state that you do not know !
How can you speak of what you reject as real ',and claim you have any knowledge of in your faith or mind is unknown ?
God is real !
Jesus Rose from the dead !
Heaven and Hell is real !
Jesus will return ,and Judge the living and the dead !
The Bible is the Most reliable and accurate ancient text we have today !
Deal with it ! ,
1 Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things. 2 But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things. 3 And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God? 4 Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance? 5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; 6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:
If you believe those that have faith in God and the Bible as Superstitious fools ?
Then like me ',they're in good company
Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
Max Planck (1858-1947)
William Thomson Kelvin (1824-1907)
Gregor Mendel (1822-1884)
Michael Faraday (1791-1867)
Robert Boyle (1791-1867)
Isaac Newton (1642-1727)
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662)
Rene Descartes (1596-1650)
Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
Johannes Kepler (1571-1630)
Sir Francis Bacon (1561-1627)
Nicholas Copernicus (1473-1543)
Belief in God
"Is belief in the existence of God irrational? These days, many famous scientists are also strong proponents of atheism. However, in the past, and even today, many scientists believe that God exists and is responsible for what we see in nature. This is a small sampling of scientists who contributed to the development of modern science while believing in God. Although many people believe in a "God of the gaps", these scientists, and still others alive today, believe because of the evidence."
Blackshoes: You have no understanding of the "FAITH "you have, in your own opinions, and ignorance of those that were not present during the events that were witnesses of Jesus resurrection and all that God has stated Within the Bible !
Almost everything we read or hear is all second hand information from the News , books science , and Academia and the medias presentation of current or ' pass events .
In other words, it 's all based on the belief that the delivers of information are unbiased and truthful.
As for me I already know better . Trust God everyone else one Pays cash!
4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
terryanderson1986: You are wrong .. I do understand your riding on faith ..... but faith is opinion .... nothing more. .. evidence is a different animal .....of that you have none .....
Blackshoes: LOL I'm Far less faithful than you in your ignorance and bias of what you know nothing about .
I've given you evidence and the facts .It doesn't take a Genius to understand the fact that Jesus is alive and his tomb is empty .
Like I've stated to many a atheist that rejects the truth ' you'll see soon enough
You don't have too accept the truth .
You don't have too Believe the facts .
You don't have too understand the evidence.
You don't have too know what will come .
Sooner or later you will face the truth !
Only the Superstitious accept the Bias Academia Fairytale belief in the pseudoscience of Evolution .
Abiogenesis is impossible ! DNA cannot have developed by chance !
No matter how many Unknown and unscientific years and processes you add !
The Jury is Out ' Any chance of the Evolutionary process being possible' died with the discovery and Complexity of DNA !
Only the Religious and bias could hold on too the belief in impossible fairytales ,and assumptions that Academia has convinced, the masses as Science