Most atheists dont know about science (Page 109)

AchillesSinatra: Are you speaking for the entire scientific community?

kittybobo34: it works well on the molecular side, so the math and results add up there

AchillesSinatra: I have never challenged instrumental efficacy.

What I have been challenging is the literal truth of scientific theories.

For the record, are you telling us that Einstein's theories should not be believed to be true?

kittybobo34: not as a universal theory no, it only works in the molecular universe

AchillesSinatra: "All swans are white" works well too in its own domain.

Do you think it's true?

kittybobo34: Einsteins concepts fall flat in the quantum side

kittybobo34: no

AchillesSinatra: so his theories are true or false?

kittybobo34: 1/2 true

AchillesSinatra: There is no such truth value.

What logic did you study?

kittybobo34: why do you have problems with gray, things are not always black and white

theHating: This is how it goes on wireclub

Make fun of blackshoes for being in denial -->
Achilles comes to defend the helpless creationist nutters -->
Achilles gets his much earned attention -->
All the nutters adorn achilles with alpha nutter respect ->>
Achilles shuts down the beta nutters -->>
Achilles resumes shaming ignorant denizens to maintain status quo and leadership of an ironically unorganized cult following; the subconscious manifestation of combined nutters all on one forum.

I've seen it happen before.. on Craigslist

AchillesSinatra: I agree. Some swans are grey.

But according to bivalent logic, a statement is either true of false.

Are you refuting bivalent logic now?

kittybobo34: that works great in algebra but not in real life

Angry Beaver:

AchillesSinatra: It sure does.

But please please please answer the question....

If a theory is construed as a conjunction of claims... [a & b & c &.... n] if any one of the conjuncts is false then the theory is false.

Right?

Or are you gonna invent "unrecognized forces" preventing logic from working as it should now?

AchillesSinatra: There is no "1/2 truth" fer crying out loud!!!

kittybobo34: In your little math case, if A and B are true, but C and D are false, then the statement is 1/2 true

Angry Beaver: half-truth
noun: half-truth; plural noun: half-truths

a statement that conveys only part of the truth

kittybobo34: Einsteins theorys works great in the molecular universe, but not at all in the quantum universe

AchillesSinatra: FFS!!!!!!!!!

We have reached an impasse.

When logic breaks down WE break down!!

theHating: Colin, you are the only one breaking down

AchillesSinatra: Do you have a source for logic which assigns a value of "1/2 truth"?

I know of none.

AchillesSinatra: I mean, you cannot even understand simple logic, and I'm the bad guy?

kittybobo34: I haven't used that kind of logic in many years. Seems like we used it in electronics and AI work more than anything.