NASA says it Will colonize the Moon by 2024 (Page 25)

getthederr: it was a mystifying experience as a UFO researcher to watch how sy fy channel aided the education of human race by showing it in 2 or 3 parts 2 hours per night...in a row..night after night at a certain time....to make sure no one lost the impact of the material discussed and the visuals...then nothing of it again....3 or 4 yrs ago maybe.

briansmythe: like lambs to the slaughter
lol

Precious Pea: @Brian zombies

briansmythe: Zombies 2024 2030 case closed


Stop lurking

Precious Pea: I like the guy ABOVE, the guys chuckle LOL ha ha Brian only you would find something like that HA HA

Hey Brian LOL you want a slice of the moon? told ya, it's a Triangle LOL

FOR SALE?

Owning land here on Earth is nice and legal. But what about a plot of land on the Moon or Mars? When can I buy some ice on Europa?

THIS VID TELLS US WHERE NOT ALLOWED TO OCCUPY OUTER-SPACE or THE MOON, CAUSE THERE IS A TREATY lol



Outer space, including the moon and other celestial bodies, is NOT subject to National appropriation by claim of sovereignty, by mean of USE or OCCUPATION, or by ANY OTHER MEANS bahahahhahahhaha "The Outer Space Treaty"

NO country can own the moon, NO country can own another planet, NO country can own a tiny planet, off in the corner of the Andromeda Galaxy, and NO citizens or companies can own any property either. Space exploration is extremely difficult.

Hey Brian?, you want a piece of rock? an asteroid? lol

NO COUNTRY CAN CLAIM SOVEREIGNTY OVER A WORLD IN SPACE

CASE CLOSED zombies

Brian you wanna be an Astronaut or a Lawyer ? now's ya chance to be both an Astronaut Space Lawyer LOL


Compared to a regular human, the Earth is enormous. And compared to the Earth, the Universe is really enormous. Like, maybe infinitely enormous.

And yet, Earth is the only place humans are allowed to own. You can buy a plot of land in the city or the country, but you can’t buy land on the Moon, on Mars or on Alpha Centauri.

It’s not that someone wouldn’t be willing to sell it to you. I could point you at a few locations on the internet where someone would be glad to exchange your “Earth money” for some property rights on the Moon. But I can also point you to a series of United Nations resolutions which clearly states that outer space should be free for everyone. Not even the worst rocky outcrop of Maxwell Montes on Venus, or the bottom of Valles Marineris on Mars can be bought or sold.

However, the ability to own property is one of the drivers of the modern economy. Most people either own land, or want to own land. And if humans do finally become a space faring civilization, somebody is going to want to own the property rights to chunks of space. They’re going to want the mining rights to extract resources from asteroids and comets.

We’re going to want to know, once and for all, can I buy the Moon?

Until the space age, the question was purely hypothetical. It was like asking if you could own dragons, or secure the mining rights to dreams. Just in case those become possible, my vote to both is no.

But when the first satellite was placed into orbit in 1957, things became a lot less hypothetical. Once multiple nations had reached orbitable capabilities, it became clear that some rules needed to be figured out - the Outer Space Treaty.

The first version of the treaty was signed by the US, Soviet Union and the United Kingdom back in 1967. They were mostly concerned with preventing the militarization of space. You’re not allowed to put nuclear weapons into space, you’re not allowed to detonate nuclear weapons on other planets. Seriously, if you’ve got plans and they relate to nuclear weapons, just, don’t.

Over the years, almost the entire world has signed onto the Outer Space Treaty. 106 countries are parties and another 24 have signed on, but haven’t fully ratified it yet.

In addition to all those nuclear weapons rules, the United Nations agreed on several other rules. In fact, its full name is, The Treaty on Principles Governing the Activities of States in the Exploration and Use of Outer Space, including the Moon and Other Celestial Bodies.

Here’s the relevant language:

Outer space, including the moon and other celestial bodies, is not subject to national appropriation by claim of sovereignty, by means of use or occupation, or by any other means.

No country can own the Moon. No country can own Jupiter. No country can own a tiny planet, off in the corner of the Andromeda Galaxy. And no citizens or companies from those countries can own any property either.

And so far, no country has tried to. Seriously, space exploration is incredibly difficult. We’ve only set foot on the Moon a couple of times, decades ago, and never returned.

But with all the recent developments, it looks like we might be getting closer to wondering if we can own dragons, or a nice acreage on Mars.

Perhaps the most interesting recent development is the creation of not one, not two, but three companies dedicated to mining resources from asteroids: Planetary Resources, Kepler Energy, and Deep Space Industries.

Just a single small asteroid could contain many useful minerals, and there could potentially be tens of billions of dollars in profit for anyone who can sink robotic mining shafts into them.

The three different companies have their own plans on how they’re going to identify potential mining targets and extract resources, and I’m not going to go into all the details of what it would take to mine an asteroid in this video.

But according to the Outer Space Treaty, is it legal? The answer, is: probably.

The original treaty was actually pretty vague. It said that no country can claim sovereignty over a world in space, but that doesn’t mean we can’t utilize some of its resources. In fact, future missions to the Moon and Mars depend on astronauts “living off the land”, harvesting local resources like ice to make air, drinking water and rocket fuel. Or building structures out of Martian regolith.

Mining an entire asteroid for sweet sweet profit is just a difference of scale.

Precious Pea: Just to change the subject Brian need an interlude from all this

Elon Musk says Australia’s energy emergency is easily fixable - Part one | 60 Minutes Australia


It’s been a miserable few weeks for Malcolm Turnbull’s government, stalled by myriad cock-ups and controversies. But the greatest challenge it faces continues to be Australia’s crisis over energy supply and cost.

Who hasn’t been shocked by a recent electricity or gas bill?
And who isn’t infuriated that power prices have risen so sharply?

In a country as abundant with resources as ours it defies logic that there are now some Australians who can’t even pay for the electricity or gas to cook a simple meal.

While federal – and state – politicians scramble to act, Elon Musk, the American billionaire with the brilliant mind, says he wants to help.

In an exclusive interview with Liz Hayes, Musk says Australia’s energy emergency is easily fixable, and his construction of the world’s largest lithium ion battery at Jamestown in South Australia is proof.

Reporter: Liz Hayes


Elon Musk says Australia’s energy emergency is easily fixable - Part two | 60 Minutes Australia

briansmythe: No I don't want to be a Layer Oh thanks .vine Yeah I donno in the old days they built the houses off the ground had heaps of ventilation to keep them cool . Now every ones got air conditioning. and when everyone turns it on theres blackouts So there grand plan they reckon is to build a Space agency and build submarines and hi tech weapons for a threat that doesn't exist there Just the system is Colapasing

Precious Pea: I dunno Brian I might be dead by then and buried 6 foot under

Who cares

I ain't going LOL it's a conspiracy LOL

lt's only for the Elite. I mean who has 1/2 million to go flying to the moon anyways? right? only people like Rocketfellas and the illuminati and the Zionists, who are behind these million dollar schemes

Angry Beaver: Elon Musk says Australia’s energy emergency is easily fixable
me too....nuclear!
Elon's battery is a load of shite lol Would add about 1% capacity to just one state hahaha

kittybobo34: I used to be pro nuclear, until Japans mishap . Seems you need permanent power just to turn it off and keep it off, that's just stupid.

Angry Beaver: Australia is a pretty stable continent, and if we used the Canadian "flat pack" reactors I believe it would be way more productive and cheaper than anything we have now, after all we have huge uranium reserves

Angry Beaver: Whack a couple of reactors slap bang in the middle of Central Australia I reckon we'd be right!

kittybobo34: So what about war or some other disaster that makes everyone run away,, with no one to turn it off and keep power coming from somewhere it melts down and poisons your continent for 10,000 years.

Angry Beaver: Hey it's a REALLY big continent!
And it's a moot point, next WW is gunna be a doozy

kittybobo34: There was talk of building smaller reactors, and sink them into the ground, so they would be self sealing, good idea, but havent heard anything about it since

Angry Beaver: Well i have read up on the Canadian models and they seem like a good design which would work here I feel

kittybobo34: I used to work on reactors, mostly for space missions. It can be done, the problem is terrorism, and safety issues.

Angry Beaver: Well Central Australia is very isolated so should be fairly easy to guard against attacks, you'd see anyone coming for miles

kittybobo34: You guys have a ton of sun out there in the desert too, solar panels are constantly improving.

Angry Beaver: yeah but they still wear out relatively quickly, and we have a few solar farms already which dont really add that much to the grid

kittybobo34: Germany is doing really well with solar panels on each house, and wind farms in the mountains

Angry Beaver: Yeah we have a solar rebate going here, but the thing is, the way they have it worked it takes at least 5 years for them to pay for themselves, and their shelf life isn't really that great. Like Musk and his stupid battery idea, the cost would push prices up for years before it came down, Musk is just a self promoter with delusions of adequacy lol

Angry Beaver: It's like any good idea, once the government realise they can make money out of it, it becomes expensively umworkable

kittybobo34: lol you can say that again. I like the nuclear concept, they just need to work out the safety issues, and settle on a design that works.

Angry Beaver: Well from what I've read the Canadian model seems to be the most workable one we have at the moment, and it can only get better as they work to improve it