Do you think the consipracy nuts will shut up now? (Page 9)
AretoNyx: Yes are more conspiracies happen all the time...and much lacking burden of proof in evidence. Lol
Corwin: I got a funny story for you guys.
I had a friend who insisted that the Moon landings were hoaxed... a guy with very little education or knowledge of the subject. All the usual stuff, "Computers didn't exist then. The radiation would have killed them. You couldn't see stars in the photos from the surface. The flag is waving in a breeze." bla, bla, bla, bla...
Every single point of which could be easily dispelled as bunk with a little actual research, but it doesn't matter... NO amount of Science or evidence can convince them once they have their minds made up.
So.... ... to make a point... I said, "Fine then. I think the pyramids of Egypt are a hoax."
He said, "That's stupid, there's tons of pictures "
"Faked." I said.
He said, "I watched a documentary on TV about them."
"Video can be faked too." I said.
He said, "Ha! My wife and mother-in-law went on vacation to Egypt 2 years ago and saw them in person."
I had a good one for that, "Oh sure, that's what they WANT you to believe. They're in on it."
He says, "Never mind that, we could book a flight and go see them ourselves."
AND, for the win, I said, "Sure, we could do that. But when we get to the hotel their government special agents drug us and put us under hypnosis, and use their Psychotronic Brain Manipulator to implant the 'memories' of us having visited the pyramids. I mean c'mon, if it ever got out that the pyramids didn't exist it would kill their tourist industry."
He says, "Dude. Seriously. You can't possibly really believe that. That's ridiculous."
I said, "No more ridiculous than the Moon landings being a hoax."
whiteopenarc: The average conspiracy wonk will believe every comical load of crap written in some discredited work that can't make up there mind, which he believes for some unfathomable reason. My favorite these last 50 years (I'm a bit older than you maybe), is (Edit)
Oswald! He acted alone.
To prove this wrong, you have a half dozen (even more) theory's that have all been discredited. Your average conspiracy nut will follow everyone of them as gospel instead of looking a the truth, which is staring them in the face all along.
The real joke is when they start mixing and matching theory's to make up new ways to get around the fact that none of them work. It goes on and on. This kind of gibberish is what passes for intellectual reasoning, I guess.
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Corwin: Well, at least with the Kennedy assassination I can at least understand their "motivation" for wanting to believe in a big conspiracy... it's likely a bit frightening or unnerving to think that a man acting alone could take down a president, and such a beloved president at that.
The same motivation for the 9/11 conspiracy theorists... it's likely more comforting for them to imagine some huge secret government plot carried out from the inside than to face the fact that they could be that vulnerable to a handful of terrorists. The conspiracy idea allows them to feel that the entire situation went according to plan and was "under control".
But... the Moon thing... ..... I seriously don't understand their motivation of "why" they insist on believing it was hoaxed... and the huge stretches of the imagination and the sheer enormity of that conspiracy required to cling to that belief.
lori100: ----wiki-----Albert Einstein is reported to have asked his fellow physicist and friend Niels Bohr, one of the founding fathers of quantum mechanics, whether he realistically believed that 'the moon does not exist if nobody is looking at it.' To this Bohr replied that however hard he (Einstein) may try, he would not be able to prove that it does, thus giving the entire riddle the status of a kind of an infallible conjecture—one that cannot be either proved or disproved.
Corwin: Lori... that's like at least the 100th time you copy/pasted that exact same bit of spam nonsense. And no matter how many times you post that, it's not going to make the Moon vanish, nor does it have anything to do with Moon landing hoax conspiracy theories.
Corwin: You've been warned, Lori.... now knock it off with the thread-crapping and try to keep it on topic.
Corwin: See the title of the thread? The original post pertained to conspiracy nuts who think the Moon landing was hoaxed, but discussing conspiracy theory nuts in general is not that far off topic.
And that reference was a side-note of how I'm sympathetic to the motives of those who wish to subscribe to those kinds of theories, but could not understand the motives of those who wish to believe the Apollo missions were hoaxed.
Your Quantum hocus-pocus taken-out-of-context Bohr quotes about vanishing moons have NOTHING to do with either the belief in hoaxed Moon landings NOR conspiracy theories.
Do take the time to read Wire's Rules and Terms of Service where it pertains to "thread-crapping".
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Corwin: Some people have trouble taking a hint... perhaps a conspiracy is afoot.
Let the discussion continue.....
Angry Beaver: Oh well I watched a grainy b&w TV in the corner of the classroom beamed in via Our Parkes radio telescope when I was 10 years old and it all looked pretty damn real to me
AretoNyx: Talking to conspiracy nuts claiming cure all's for autism and such ...big woo makes so much money so doubt any time soon will they quit.
angpd: the thing about conspiracy theories is peoples belief that the truth will not get out. how many people can keep a secret? and for how long? the news media would have a field day with any credible facts. or do they think the media would keep something like that quiet?
AretoNyx: Seems people come up with new ways that conflict with similar conspiracy, and other newer conspiracies. The problem is like with destructive cults there are destructive tin foil hats.
AretoNyx: Lol Mate. True. I think conspiracy theories can have even more conspiracy attached about the conspiracies.