Life on Other Planets (Page 2)

Spirit One
Spirit One: So you are an Evolutionist now ,you Atheist are an Obtuse and Confusing lot too understand . only a moron would think that we are the only ones out there ,man is Extraterrestrial in nature ,the Aliens that have visited are your 'KIN' ,they are waiting for all to progress from their WAR LIKE existence ,then they will let the whole world know they are here as well as sharing the secrets of the universe and the meaning of this thing we call life.
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Geoff
Geoff: Don't get me wrong I believe that there IS life elsewhere in the universe. Sorry if my last post didn't make that clear.

And the fact that I am an Atheist has nothing to do with whether I believe in extra-terrestrial life. I personally do not believe that the Earth has ever been visited by intelligent EBEs. ET-bacteriological seeding is another matter and the jury is still out on that one.
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The_Retributor
The_Retributor: I wonder what they'd make of a delegation from Wire..?
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RocktheFlaminCowboy
RocktheFlaminCowboy: I'd like to think there is but I think much of it has to come down to the chance another planet is within the required distance from an external heat source so moisture can exist within the form a nature cycle for life to exist. That's most probably why the chances are greater in winning lotto.
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bahcatcha
bahcatcha: I think most religious people shun the possibility of life on other planets due to the fact it would wipe out their one God one creation theory. I believe somewhere in the Universe there has to be intelligent life, possibly with enough technology to completely obliterate us without breaking a sweat.
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PerpetualDreamer
PerpetualDreamer: Here's a moment of humor. Why are we looking for intelligent life in the universe. We cannot even find it on Earth.
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RocktheFlaminCowboy
RocktheFlaminCowboy: I think it's we are looking for other intelligent life. Judging by our standards it won't be hard to find other idiots out there.
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racerjon
racerjon: There is life out there. While I was traveling around the universe in the rocket I built, I met many new people from stars millions of light years away. They were really nice but their green skin color was a little strange to me.

Seriously, with the size of what our universe is, I would believe there has to be life somewhere else out there besides here. I mean, trillions of miles of area with too many stars to count, something/someone has to be out there.
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RocktheFlaminCowboy
RocktheFlaminCowboy: Next time you head out take me too, I've done all I can do down here and need to set some new goals.
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Gregarious_Guy
Gregarious_Guy: "...even if we could suddenly develop some sort of faster than light drive, How many centuries would..."

There are a few problems with the above:

1) Time slows as speed increases. If you could travel a lot faster than the speed of light you could make a quick trip into space and come back again BEFORE you left.

2) Mass becomes closer to infinite the faster you go. You would need an infinite power source, and an infinite length of time.

3) You would appear not to have aged to the people on Earth. (Don't tell my wife about this one)
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RocktheFlaminCowboy
RocktheFlaminCowboy: I have my doubts about these points because they sound very scientific but don't really make sense. Besides there is no other life out there so why waste time when we should be working on optimum levels of life here. If the chance is so minute then it's not worth investigating it's just stickybeek value and a waste of resources. Spend what we've got wisely because there may be nothing else and that's not worth the time and effort to find out.
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Gregarious_Guy
Gregarious_Guy: Good point!
But if we had spent all the money we do on wars, on space travel we, could be living on other planets by now.
I want a little tropical planet in the Andromeda galaxy when I retire.
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RocktheFlaminCowboy
RocktheFlaminCowboy: I will join you only if it's not too hot and there is not too many people and buildings. Seriously though to find another planet looking at our situation we need to find another planet similar distance to another star for the right conditions and that is why there more than likely is none and no other life. This is not that amazing to comprehend when you mimmick what and how we have here. Call the new planet Tropicana.
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Gregarious_Guy
Gregarious_Guy: Don't forget the new planet needs to have the same (or slightly stronger) magnetic field or else we would perish pretty quickly since it blocks a lot radiation etc.


Even Earth's magnetic field as it is, would not protect us from a huge solar flare which could happen any time.

I will use my vast brain power to scan the universe for other races that have mastered mind over matter....wait I'm getting a signal now....what? ... geesh, it's just Beavis & B%@%z^w@ on the TV upstairs.
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RocktheFlaminCowboy
RocktheFlaminCowboy: Are you sure it's not My favourite Martain?
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PerpetualDreamer
PerpetualDreamer: I think the new Keanu Reeves movie (which I believe is a remake) is a very interesting view on a potential galactic view on planets and ownership. But sadly, if we did have a visitation from aliens that was as public, even if their intentions were completely non-agressive toward humans, they would be greeted by armed military personnel.
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RocktheFlaminCowboy
RocktheFlaminCowboy: I feel the same as many do and wish there was life out there and the fact that we are here proves it is possible. However looking at the circumstances as to how life is sustained on Earth it seems highly unlikely that another planet the same size and mass of Earth is out there with a sun or star the same size and mass of our sun creating temperatures that we have here. I think this is what it comes down to. Distances from a heat source and atomospheric conditions to produce water. It would be easier to win lotto than find another planet with life. While being extremely exciting it could be fatal if the other beings were more advanced and more warlike. It would be nice one day if we stopped dreaming and lived reality and concentrated on solving the problems of our own existance in some sort of harmony.
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Gregarious_Guy
Gregarious_Guy: I got my tin-foil hat on now, so aliens can't brain-bust me into thinking they are not already here!

They are coming FOR YOU!!

Oh sorry, don't forget, why does everyone assume that ALL life has to have water and be carbon based? This is limited thinking caused by our narrow view of the universe.
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RocktheFlaminCowboy
RocktheFlaminCowboy: It's all we've got though and it frustrates me though at the expenditure on something that might not and never exist when we could spend more on fixing problems right here at home. It's good to dream but every so often we have to wake up and get on with the job at hand.
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littlebombardier
littlebombardier: I don't believe, we will ever find or communicate with other sentient beings in the universe. It makes me sad. I think the best chance we have to find other life is on Europa. I have to admit, I am influenced by 2061, but it does make you think. Essentially, Europa is covered in kms thick ice. There is evidence, that there is liquid under that ice.

Just imagine, the kind of creatures that could have evolved in tha environment. I wish, humanities's sole purpose was to explore, not to gather wealth. If we would concern ourselves with getting out of there and explore, we would be way further out then we are now.

After all, eventually we will have to leave earth. IF we survive long enough.
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Nick_kciN
Nick_kciN: Where the conditions are stable I would expect the life to be very slow in evolving.
Life that evolved on a planet and left to live in space I expect to be everywhere.

As a species we are only just opening our eyes.
To have a viable civilisation in space would require a completely self sustaining, symbiotic way of life. Not radiating energy and collecting all energy that it encounters which makes them hard to see.
(I don’t think they have dimensions of 1,4,9 but I bet they appear dark)

We stop being a child when we can stand on our own two feet away from the support of our mothers and fathers. This is true for much of life on earth.
Eventually we will take the next steps, away from our cosmic parents, our planet and star.
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bahcatcha
bahcatcha: White Sands Test Facility in New Mexico, has an array of antennas that do nothing but monitor space for possible alien transmissions. So far, as far as I have heard they have received nothing, at least nothing that can be verified as an actual transmission. Could it be possible that an alien life form would not actually communicate in such a way that we humans could intercept any communication from them. I have grown up close to Roswell, and am familiar with the story of the alien craft that crashed there, supposedly they retrieved some metal from that site that wasn't like anything we have here on earth. There were also some beings that were supposedly taken to a laboratory that were not human, of course you cant prove it by me.
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Kalla
Kalla: Almost certainly, if you look at the planet Earth (as humble as it is), there would almost certainly be life on other planets, although not necessarily 'intelligent' as most people would want to place on such a life form.
I'm talking about flora, trees, plants, fauna, miniscule bacteria, animal lifeforms that would evolve to suit the gravity of its planet.
The notion that intelligent life existing is also fairly good, however most people think that if any intelligent life that existed would be far older and more superior to ourselves, but who is to say that if an intelligence did exist, it would not be younger than we are?
In just the last 100 years alone, we've only just invented and discovered space travel and radio waves, so what is to say that another species could still be sitting in their version of 1400 England, praying to Pagan Deities and not, as most expect, flying through space, abducting humans for their own sick amusement.

I'm placing my money on just flora existing however.The distance between stars is so immense that even if we did contact an intelligence, it would be more feasable to communicate via some form of radio or other communications device than an actual visit.
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deuce916
deuce916: You won't find life like us on other planets. Why are you so interested in life on other planets but not life on your this planet. Look at all the people, here on earth, that no-one cares about. Especially the starving people.

Look at all the trees on this planet that get chopped down for wood & paper products. No-one gives a s*&^ about them. Yet you're so interested in other planets. Why.

Why do you persist in thinking another planet would be more interesting than this one. We are so unique.

And just look at the way we treat the earth & each other. Why would you think that BS should be extended to another planet.

What are you looking for? Surely you can find it here. Makes me think you're missing the point of our existence.
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littlebombardier
littlebombardier: While keeping our yard clean and safe should be a concern of Humanity, but we can't keep looking inward only. If we did, we would have never migrated out of Africa. We would have never discovered the new continent. It is in us to explore. For better hunting grounds, or pasture. For new trade routes and in search of new wealth. What ever the reason is, we have to keep moving, or we will die. For better or worse, mainly worse, we had over populated this planet. It will not be able to support us for much longer at the rate we are going. We have to think outside of our little blue marble. Or we have to have a world wide pandemic or war.

Chances are, what ever we'll do, we will f***e it up as well, but we just have to keep moving. The universe is unfathomably big. a Million years form now, in different galaxies, there could be beings, who originated from Earth, but would look way different from us. But still, they would have human origins.

Imagine, we would be the "aliens" to other beings. What I wouldn't give to live forever. To see what will happen in 10,000,000, 20,000,000 years from now. It must be so unbelievable.
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