Who was the greatest scientific genius?

Nosferatu
Nosferatu: I'm curious to hear different opinions on who the greatest scientific genius of all time is. I'm currently reading a book about the Cosmos and it goes over the discoveries of Pythagoras, Kepler, Newton, and Einstein. Personally, I think Da Vinci was. Maybe there is one you'd like to share as well.
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lucyhaswings
lucyhaswings: I vote for Da Vinci.
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joskirin
joskirin: Albert Einstein
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Bell214
Bell214: It’s not easy to choose … so, this is my Top 10 random list of scientific geniuses:
1. Nicolaus Copernicus
2. Johannes Kepler
3. Leonardo da Vinci
4. Galileo Galilei
5. Sir Isaac Newton
6. Rene Descartes
7. Nikola Tesla
8. Marie Curie
9. Albert Einstein
10. Stephen Hawking

Then … Archimedes, Max Planck, Niels Bohr, Mihajlo Pupin (long-distance telephone communication), Milutin Milanković (Milankovitch cycles) ...

Personally, I like the most da Vinci, Einstein and Tesla.

By the way, Nos, what book are you reading? “Cosmos“ by Carl Sagan, “The Fabric of the Cosmos“ by Brian Greene, or …?
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ness_86
ness_86: Well, I'm a fan of da Vinci, lol, but I must say there are some other magnificent and ingenious scientists too...so it's not really an easy choice...
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Nosferatu
Nosferatu: I'm reading Cosmos by Carl Sagan.
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Outbackjack
Outbackjack: Tesla
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Goran
Goran: Isaac Newton, then Charles Darwin, then Maxwell, then Einstein, then Tesla

Am I the only one who thinks Hawking is full of shit? Possibly so
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drummer86
drummer86: Leonardo da Vinci
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Salticidae
Salticidae: For such Leonardo Da Vinci
he also my fave artist ^_^
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Goran
Goran: So many say Leonardo. I'm curious why? Is see him more as an inventor than a scientist.
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Bell214
Bell214: Leonardo was the universal genius – a “Renaissance Man“: scientist, inventor, painter, sculptor, anatomist, astronomer, writer … Or a polymath.

By the way, Galileo Galilei, Gottfried Leibniz, Sir Isaac Newton, Averroes, and Avicenna, among others, are also regarded as notable polymaths.
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Nosferatu
Nosferatu: I think it's funny how Liebniz and Sir Isaac Newton both came up with Calculus at the same time in two completely different locations. What a coincidence.
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Goran
Goran: He did lots of things, but other than studying and drawing some of the human anatomy, Leonardo has done very little scientific work.
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Nosferatu
Nosferatu: He drew plans for a parachute, submarine, and a mobile car that wasn't pulled by a horse. Those were some pretty astounding inventions in his era.
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jjasmine
jjasmine: I am not exactly THE scientific expert and referee, but I do not know the name of the wheel inventor, right ?
As far as the known ones go - Leo and Albert. And Mother Theresa.
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Goran
Goran: Nos, those were ideas. Leo was a great visionary and could put his thoughts on paper but that doesn't make him a great scientist. A great engineer and inventor yes, even if many of his inventions did not work as they were designed. There is difference between scientist and inventor and scientist and engineer.
I'd like to know who was the engineering genius who designed this thousands of years before Leo:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism
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Bell214
Bell214: *deep sigh* Goran, it’s your opinion and I respect it, but the scientific world regards Leonardo da Vinci as a scientist.

1. Leonardo da Vinci Italian artist, engineer, and scientist: “… Italian painter, draftsman, sculptor, architect, and engineer whose genius, perhaps more than that of any other figure, epitomized the Renaissance humanist ideal. … His notebooks reveal a spirit of scientific inquiry and a mechanical inventiveness that were centuries ahead of their time. …“ (http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/336408/Leonardo-da-Vinci)

2. The Columbia Encyclopedia, Sixth Edition. 2001-07: “Leonardo da Vinci, … Italian painter, sculptor, architect, musician, engineer, and scientist … versatility and creative power of Leonardo mark him as a supreme example of Renaissance genius. … The richness and originality of intellect expressed in his notebooks reveal one of the greatest minds of all time.“ (http://www.bartleby.com/65/le/LeonardoV.html)

3. “Leonardo the scientist bridged the gap between the shockingly unscientific medieval methods and our own trusty modern approach. His experiments in anatomy and the study of fluids, for example, absolutely blew away the accomplishments of his predecessors. Beginning with his first stay in Milan and accelerating around 1505, Leonardo became more and more wrapped up in his scientific investigations. The sheer range of topics that came under his inquiry is staggering: anatomy, zoology, botany, geology, optics, aerodynamics and hydrodynamics among others. …“
“As his curiosity took him in ever wilder directions, Leonardo always used this method of scientific inquiry: close observation, repeated testing of the observation, precise illustration of the subject object or phenomenon with brief explanatory notes. The result was volumes of remarkable notes on an amazing variety of topics, from the nature of the sun, moon and stars to the formation of fossils and, perhaps most notably, the mysteries of flight. …“ (http://www.mos.org/leonardo/scientist.html)

4. “ … Yet Leonardo was far more than a great artist: he had one of the best scientific minds of his time. He made painstaking observations and carried out research in fields ranging from architecture and civil engineering to astronomy to anatomy and zoology to geography, geology and paleontology. …“ (http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/history/vinci.html)

5. Zammattio, Carlo, Augusto Marinoni, and Anna Maria Brizio: Leonardo The Scientist
New York, McGraw-Hill Book Co., 1980.
(http://www.antiqbook.com/boox/gaq/012384.shtml)
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Nosferatu
Nosferatu: Nice research.
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Bell214
Bell214: Hey Nos, thanks.
“ …it's funny how Leibniz and Sir Isaac Newton both came up with Calculus at the same time …“
Well, as the saying goes, “Great minds think alike.“
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Goran
Goran: Mirabell, it seems you misunderstood me. I did say Leo was scientist. But if you look at your links, you will hardly conclude his scientific contributions are the greatest or are even in same category as those of the greatest scientific minds.

You're right that this is a subjective discussion. I'm curious which particular scientific work in your opinion qualifies Leo so high on this list? I may be missing something in science he did that would be considered very significant...
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Nosferatu
Nosferatu: Leonardo da Vinci made a few designs for flying machines in his day. Even though they failed one of his designs inspired Igor Sikorsky to develop the modern helicopter.
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Goran
Goran: Right, so he was a visionary. But science behind most of his work was flawed.
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Nosferatu
Nosferatu: Science is just a tool. Even Edison failed a thousand times before finding the right filament to conduct electricity in his light bulb.
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rhharris
rhharris: I don't think it's fair to ask who was the greatest scientific genius. All the scientists that have been mentioned were great in their own way. Even if their theories have not withstood the test of time, they all have left an impression. A more reasonable question is which scientist had the greatest impact on the scientific community? Personally, I think the most influential scientific thinker has been Sir Isaac Newton. In Principia, Newton formulated universal gravitation and the three laws of motion, which founded classical mechanics. As mentioned in previous messages, Newton, along with Leibniz, developed Calculus. Calculus is the most significant mathematical development, in my mind at least. Newton also investigated optics, the nature of light, alchemy ... the list goes on. As an engineering physics major, Newton's theories have dominated my studies. Everything seems to go back to Newton.
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Goran
Goran: rhh, I agree on all points. Newton was an alien
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