Who is the Holy Spirit? (Page 3)

youarewell2
youarewell2: GeraldtheGnome

YOU POSTED THIS:
If a Bible works then you think that it works in a certain way that is right and true when in reality you are delusional and brainwashed because of what you read

MY RESPONSE:
Hmm, well I guess you can't tell if the Bible works or not. Okay, sure friend. I see why you would make this statement. You really don't know if it works or not. Delusion and branwashed is not treating people like you want to be treated, which is what the Bible says. Delusion and brainwashed does not tell you to not to murder, not to lie, to respect and honor your parents, not to steal. Delusion does not make you better or well.

But if it this is working for me, why should I throw something that works for me? Now for you, you have problems getting it to work for you, that is not my problem.

YOU POSTED THIS
I shouldn't have to explain something as basic as that you. Most people that think properly know that the book is not based on a true story, that it is about made up stuff.

MY RESPONSE:
You don't have to explain anything ============you can't explain.
And we are not even counting on you to do this.
If I wanted someone to explain something to me I would go to the person that could explain it.
If you are saying God is "imaginary" and a "delusion", but at the same time you are telling us you don't know if God is real or not, then obviously you can't explain God to us.
You said you could DISPROVE God, but then you proceeded not to Disprove God.

Most people who think that something they can't DISPROVE is imaginary is not thinking properly, correction.

And just how many paragraphs are you going to write stalling us.

Either you have the Proof or you don't.
Scientist all over the world do not have the PROOF that God does not exist.
Just because they are promoting a "theory of Evolution" does not mean this is
"evidence" that DISPROVE God's existence. They are just giving an explanation for how life "progressed" on this planet They are not telling you where life came from in the first place. And they are not saying that God does not exist..

EVEN THE MOST FAMOUS ATHEIST IN THE WORLD SAYS THERE IS A "POSSIBILITY" OF A INTELLIGENT DESIGNER ( so who are you?)

"It could come about in the following way. It could be that at some earlier time somewhere in the universe a civilization evolved, by probably some kind of Darwinian means, to a very, very high level of technology, and designed a form of life that they seeded onto perhaps this planet. Now that is a possibility, and an intriguing possibility. And I suppose that it's possible that you might find evidence for that if you look at the details of biochemistry and molecular biology. You might find a signature of some sort of designer… And that designer could well be a higher intelligence from elsewhere in the universe." -Richard Dawkins, in Expelled


Source: https://kgov.com/dawkins-transcript-from-expelled-on-intelligent-design
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GeraldtheGnome
GeraldtheGnome: The anonymous story tellers of the original tales got their words compiled to make up The Tanakh, those that put The Tanakh together put down the words onto paper in such a way that it convinced a lot of people that the main god of Judaism that they couldn’t see and couldn’t prove was around then, to further that point High Priests, Priests and Rabbis who believed in what was in their because they were conned about words that in reality can’t be proven was true, they then told others that it was all true and the fools fell for it, that is how people got brainwashed by Judaism.

After that a cult started and brainwashed more people by adding a story about a chosen one, that was how the brainwashing happened and how with Judaism people had the Tanakh ‘working’ in their father, they told the Jews of Judaism that whatever is in the book is true and that it is from a god and Christians later on did that with The Bible. That is what I meant by how The Bible works, it works in the favour of the preacher that cons others with it. You are so stupid that you couldn’t even work that out. It’s you that cannot work things out, not me. It’s not great that I have to tell you in several ways about the same thing that should have been obvious to you the first time around. You though think that it works by telling you that everything is true within it. Well if you actually read it properly then you would know why that is not so. Thanks for all of your false claims and false accusations in this forum and in others.

So who in your mind is the most famous god of all and is he the more famous than any Human on the planet according to you ? The Holy Spirit is another that’s only found in religious books.
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GeraldtheGnome
GeraldtheGnome: It must be great for you to play ‘God’ on each forum that you are on or more to the point for you to be God on every forum that you are on. Your proof that Jesus does exist has not been shown and so far you proof that the main god is around somewhere right now as well as that the claimed to be around right now Holy Spirit is not just about the wind has not been shown. Lack of proof means that your certainty about what is right is what you should not be certain about.
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youarewell2
youarewell2: GrealdtheGnome

Sure, Sure

Any evidence that God does not exist?

I respect you are emotional about the subject of God, but that is not legitimate evidence that God does not exist.. But this forum is not about your "emotions".

You either can Disprove that God exists or not.

Proof ======= would be any of the Scientific evidences that God does not exist
Any of the over 25 types of evidences that God does not exist

Please provide this evidence.

If you cannot DISPROVE that God exists by providing any of these evidences , then all of your arguments against the existence of God will be disregarded as fact or true. But will be respected as just your emotions.

Freedom of Speech is cool with me. I respect and encourage your right, but I can't take your emotions as a basis to make any decision about God. But please do pour your heart out. Sometimes you just need an outlet to your emotions.

You said God is imaginary, God does not exist. God is not real. This is an emotional protest, but not a real argument without some type of evidence. Again, evidence -----------------is not you arguing and cherry picking scriptures, it isn't your videos, it isn't cheap tricks like calling me God or the Holy Spirit air we breathe and cute little insults that amuse us.

It is real scientific evidence (8 or more exist) or at least one or more of the other 25 different types of evidences in the world.

I made my decision on God, not based on emotions.

But because of real legitimate "evidence". God is proven by at least one or more ot the different types of Scientific forms of evidences. Although, physical proof of God Himself is not possible , due to the fact He is not physical.. However, His Son who came from Heaven (physically) became Human and left us a message that works. It literally changes the lives of people who interacted with the message==========it makes them well, good and healed . Therefore, not only did I look at the message, but it's impact on the people who read and trusted that message. Their outcome is wellness, health, goodness, moral wellness, physical health, social wellness, emotional wellness, mental wellness, etc. Why is this message making these people healthy? If an "outcome" is goodness, healthy and well, then the "income" (whatever came in their live to cause the outcome) must be true. A bad income would cause a bad outcome (bad, negative, harmful, hurtful,not well, sick, diseased).

Good Income -----------------------produces----------------Good Outcome------The truth or true

Bad Income------------------------produces------------------Bad Outcome--------Not truth or true.


Also, God leaves us at least one of more of the other 25 different types of evidences. I considered that. In fact, you can't get through all the other evidence of God in one life-time.

But nothing is going influence me more than "Direct Evidence". This is also a type of evidence and that is my own personal experience with God. This is the main evidence that confirms God's existence.

I used all these "evidences" to make a decision about God. God is real. God exist.


So, since I didn't use "emotions" as the "evidence" God does exist, then why should I consider your "emotions" as evidence that God does not exist. If you can give us legitimate evidence that can dispute the legitmate evidence we have then I am all ears. I will consider your legitimate evidence. But please, get a hold of yourself and stop expecting us to throw away literally thousands of years of historical records, archaeological artifacts, testimonial and witness evidences, extraordinary experiences and events and other evidences for your emotions.
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GeraldtheGnome
GeraldtheGnome: Zeffur and you beat me. You've got me ! I concede defeat. God is gracious and around right now, in fact he's everywhere. Praise the Lord ! Jesus Christ ! Hallelujah and what have you. I've seen the light ! Lord have mercy on my soul !

Only creationism is true, it's not like any of it can't be disproven or anything. I mean all of you have never made grammatical errors or for that matter heaps of the like I can see that both of you didn't do. Mensa is the place for both of you. It's not like all of you are basing things on emotional responses, it's not like you are all hypocrites and it's not like you both make absurd claims, are irrational, illogical and completely biased. In fact none of you are ever wrong, you all know everything that is needed to be known, all of you never have dodgy evidence, none of you are smug, arrogant, narcissistic, none of you are ignorant, all of you know that using evidences rather than evidence is the right word and that God is not a Medieval name for a god. Jesus really was born, nothing about the census or anything else back in The Iron Age didn't match, you both have credible evidence and you both don't have ridiculous beliefs. While am at it all of this applies to fair, just, Bob who has never deleted something for unfair reasons, he's never done that after all, historical records and so on prove everything, it would all stand up in court. There are no Bible contradictions either. You two are never hypocrites that have insulted myself and others. None of you have made false claims and false accusations about myself and others. I have converted back to the faith that isn't blind faith.

God is within all of us, I mean after all it's so easy to prove, my new experience with him has shown me that and sweet Jesus, that I now know everyone called him in The Iron Age. There is so much evidence away from religious books and with the experience that we all have with God and Jesus that there's no doubt about it. None of you are delusional at all. None of you ever show confirmation bias and religious bias. None have you have ever just claimed that a Jesus and God are around somewhere now without proof of it and looked for everything that confirms what you made sure was all that you looked for. I'm crying now ! Sweet Jesus and God or "Blessed by God" as my Aunt Lydia has said, she also said, "Blessed be this day." She was so right, never a fanatical one. No religious person is ever brainwashed, each religious person is completely rational, logical, sensible and real critical thinkers at all times. So yes I now am for God. God bless you all ! I have seen the light !

So each of you are educated Christians, you all think logically and rationally in the world that we live in ? Us Christians always have the right answers to the problems of evil, God gave us the answers after all when he talked to us. We have had an experience with God, no one can fault us. Those vile atheists hate God, they won't let them into their lives, they deny God, we know that this is true, no one can tell us we're wrong, searching our hearts for so long from the first knowing. Love is a battlefield.I 'm off to pray, I found out what wonders it brings. I have seen the errors of my ways. The Holy Spirit guides us.
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GeraldtheGnome
GeraldtheGnome: I found what The Holy Spirit really is. It's about 10 minutes, maybe 15 minutes down the road from me. I always thought that The Holy Spirit was a god.

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m_leonora1111
m_leonora1111: Zeffur, come here and learn something new.
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m_leonora1111: I am going to see the video.
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mrsmargaret48
mrsmargaret48: Holy Spirit, third person of the Holy Trinity. God/Holy Spirit is divine, supreme and unknowable, he permits us tiny glimpses of his glory in life/death, nature and the universe.
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m_leonora1111
m_leonora1111: No my sister!
What is the difference between "A" and "OF"?
I want you to think before you answer the other question.

Which person should you follow? Paul abd Jesus, or your pastors, brethren and leaders?

Galatians 1:1-10!!
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GeraldtheGnome
GeraldtheGnome: person
/ˈpəːs(ə)n/

noun

a human being regarded as an individual.

That's the Dictionary meaning of the word person, so the Spirit, who there are always very vague references in The Bible to, was just reduced to the claim that it was about a third Human. So unknowingly someone claimed that The Holy Spirit, Christ and the Feudal Age name for the main god is about three gods who are Humans. Since the World Cup is on I would consider that an own goal in a sense by someone on here. Well done to the one who stuffed up big time. Then after she falsely claimed that a god named God and another named The Holy Spirit are divine. The divine bit meant nothing. But of course just after the accidental admittance that it's about three main gods in Christianity she then contradicted herself that those supreme beings are whom we are unable to know about.

Yes, they cannot be known because they are made up and that fact that she claimed that they are not about means that she doesn't know anything about any god at all. Two people stuffed up on here in the last 20 hours, but the thing is that Leonora's mistakes were at least minor mistakes. He is not the one who made a bold claim after all.

The Book of Galatians, chapter one, verse one.

Paul an Apostle not of men nether by man but by Iesus Christ and by God the father which raysed him from deeth: 2 and all the brethren which are with me. Vnto the congregacios of Galacia.

3 Grace be with you and peace from God the father and from oure Lorde Iesus Christ
4 which gave him selfe for oure synnes to deliver vs from this present evyll worlde thorow the will of God oure father 5 to whom be prayse for ever and ever. Amen.

6 I marvayle that ye are so sone turned fro him that called you in the grace of Christ vnto another gospell: 7 which is nothinge els but that ther be some which trouble you and intende to pervert to gospell of Christ.

8 Neverthelesse though we oure selves or an angell fro heve preache eny other gospell vnto you the that which we have preached vnto you holde him as a cursed.

9 As I sayde before so saye I now agayne yf eny man preache eny other thinge vnto you then that ye have receaved holde him accursed.

10 Preache I mannes doctrine or Godes ? Ether go I about to please men? If I stodyed to please men I were not the servaunt of Christ.

That was from the 1526 edition of The Tyndale Bible. That was during the time of The Renaissance.
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GeraldtheGnome
GeraldtheGnome: The Holy Spirit is not a who or him, The Holy Spirit is just the wind. Just read the second verse of any complete Bible. Some people decided that the air is a god or at least a supernatural force for some or at least that was the way it was described thousands of years ago.
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mrsmargaret48
mrsmargaret48: Dont worry Gerald, God knows that's all that matters.
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GeraldtheGnome
GeraldtheGnome: The bit about spirit comes from a reference about the wind, the spirit going over the water is just about the breeze going over the water that was dreamt up as having a supernatural element to it. As for a god named God, we’ll that name was dreamt up in The Middle Ages. There is no god named God around anywhere and The Holy Spirit is also made up.
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