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GeraldtheGnome
GeraldtheGnome: To you are religiously brainwashed. You indeed lied to me. God is a name that was never used before The Middle Ages. You used the word speak the wrong way so I can't reply to something that does not make sense. You use too many capitals, you should also use spaces every time that you should do so and you use the word say the wrong way on this text based site. No one has literally said anything to you on here. You also use commas too much. Only life forms exist so you used that word the wrong way too. Stop repeating what others tell you, either ignore them or no longer be on any forum where you feel the very dumb compulsion to do that. I don't use the word posted in that manner. You are the one with the problem, not me, you need one if you are hearing voices in your head, if you aren't then you are just lying that you can hear a god. I cannot hear someone who is nowhere right now and who is nowhere in the future. Stop using too many capitals also.

Please, really, the one thing that you are not is respectful. You keep making one false claim after another. I never mentioned if god does or doesn't exist, I stated that he is made up which is so. Nothing on here sounds narcissistic by either of us on this text based site. Neither of us have literally said anything on this text based site. That means that I don't literally sound like anything on here and neither do you. It is very unhealthy to have your kind of thinking, not mine. Then you made some other false accusations and false claims about me after the crap that I just mentioned on here. I fear that you are severely mentally ill if you are extremely delusional, which is possible, that's all that I fear in regards to you instead of what you assume is right about me hypocrite. We never had a conversation on here. The word is exist, not exists. Biased means that you have an unfair and unreasonable way of thinking about certain things. The word is silly, it isn't sill. Don't use quotation marks that way. God is the dreamt up main god of certain Christians belief systems. My parents gave me the ability to exist, not some imaginary god by any name. It's him, not Him. All your own Atheist Friends cannot help you Atheist. I can help myself regardless of what anyone else does. Don't use the word and at the front of a sentence and stop using too many capitals.

You also don't know the authors for the same reason, no one around personally knows any of them. Whether the authors were once known or not by anyone is something that we both don't know and no one will ever know. Use full stops whenever you should also. The Holy Spirit is still really just the wind.
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youarewell2
youarewell2: GeraldtheGnome

YOU SAID THIS:
You are the one with the problem, not me, you need one if you are hearing voices in your head,

MY RESPONSE:


Unfortunately, the human family is born dying. Not one person on this planet is without "problems". So, there is no need to try to elevate yourself with me. I know you got problems. I know I got problems. I know everyone has their own unique set of problems. And if you think a God that telling me to love you and treat you like I want to be treated is a problem, then you got a serious problem. How is Jesus telling me to love my enemies a problem? And if I hear a voice in my heart, it is telling me to respect others. How is that a serious problem? Out of all the "problems" I could have in this world, I would rather have the "problem" of having a voice that teaches me to have compassion and respect for others. That is the voice in my heart. It tells me to love others. And if you want to keep saying I have a problem with hearing the voice of God in my heart, that is telling me how to have a good character, then you keep on saying that. I don't have a problem with you saying I have this problem.

YOU SAID THIS:
. I cannot hear someone who is nowhere right now and who is nowhere in the future.

MY RESPONSE:
I think God speaks to everyone. I think God is alway working to get our attention. I think many people "silence" that small voice in their heart. I think many people "deaden" their own conscience, where God speaks. I think people take God's message to the world and mock it. They mock the message that Jesus came to bring to the dying human family. I think God speaks to us everyday when he gives us good things from this life that we didn't really create. We didn't create the beautiful sun that shines on our skin. We didn't create the air we breath in our lungs. We didn't wake ourselves up this morning,when others died this morning. We don't give ourselves yet another second, minute, hour or day to live. That is all a gift of God. That is all the goodness of God. We don't hang the moon in the sky and the stars. Who are we kidding? We just found ourselves on this planet. We didn't create ourselves. We were created and came from something that gave us the life force and energy in our bodies. Many babies were born dead. Not that they are worse off for this. Their tiny energy just went on back to God. But God, pushed our life forward and we had no choice in that. Our parents had no choice in that. That is something a Source of Life choose to do for us. So, yes God speaks to me in many ways. He speaks to me on the inside to, like a friend. He tells me how to be a better person. He gives me a conscience to treat others like I want to be treated. He warns me when my behavior is bad and out of order. He helps me to correct negative energy.

And I strongly know God is speaking to you daily, but you are so busy trying to keep active thoughts that He is not real. You don't realize that that voice in your conscious mind is God talking to you. You reject His voice. You reject His presence because He is "invisible" and you can't see Him. You want a God you can see, touch and feel. So if you can't satisfy your 5 senses you reject God's voice. Well, I hope that one day you can come to the deeper mystery of life on planet Earth. That there is one that you can't see that loves you and yes He is talking to you too.
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GeraldtheGnome
GeraldtheGnome: You do come out with a lot of crap. There is no religious god by any name around somewhere right now, that includes the one that you use the Medieval name for as well the one you name Jesus, a name that no one in The Iron Age and earlier than that ever had. Whatever the hell your elevate statement meant is something that I didn’t do, it really meant nothing just like every false accusation apart from that and false claim that you have made so far. Stop twisting my words for your own convenience to cater for your confirmation bias. I’ll be more specific since I realize that you were too stupid to understand what I meant. You are the one with mental problems, not me. Go and see a shrink as soon as possible if you have heard voices or at least one voice in your head that is not your own and if you don’t then don’t then don’t lie to me ever again.

You used too many spaces, don’t use quotation marks that way again, you used one too many spaces at one point, you should always use spaces where they should be, used a full stop without a sentence, you also left out a full stop elsewhere, you used too many commas and stop using and at the front of a sentence, that’s just laziness by you. I literally said nothing to you on this text based site and learn to use the word saying properly for once at least. That Human family crap meant nothing, so too the born dying rubbish, none of it made any sense at all. Since it looks like you are only mentally capable of very rudely repeating my words and that of others when you reply back to someone in a forum you should stop replying back to everyone on every forum who you don’t agree with. So either don’t repeat my messages and that of others or just never reply to myself and others. You are an expert of nothing on here. If you unable to prove what you are certain of then cease crapping on that you are certain of things when in reality no one should be certain of that, that means I won’t see your certainty about gods, goddesses, dimensions and so on anymore. You really have nothing left to go one after the fantasy and possible, yet unproven stuff is no longer mentioned. I meant that he will be nowhere in the future, not who is nowhere in the future. I made a mistake, your mistake was being certain about something that even in the future no one will ever be right about. You aren’t right about it right now and you never will be. You use too many capitals.

The title is grammatically incorrect. What is The Holy Spirit ? That is what the question should be, not who. It’s really just the wind or the damn communion wine.
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youarewell2: GeraldtheGnome

YOU SAID THIS:
You do come out with a lot of crap.

MY RESPONSE:
That is the message of Jesus. You would know that if you took the time to read it. But you want to argue with me like I am responsible for your life decisions. I am only responsible for my choices. It is not my job to "convert" you. So you can stop acting like I have to work extra hard to win you over to my belief. For what? You choose what way you will live and die. You have the same Bible I do and acess to so much information to verify that Bible. What are you arguing with me for? I made my choice.

YOU SAID THIS :
That Human family crap meant nothing, so too the born dying rubbish, none of it made any sense at all.

MY RESPONSE:
You don't know you are part of a Human family? You don't realize you are born dying? Wow, you seem to be in great denial.

YOU SAID THIS :
If you unable to prove what you are certain of then cease crapping on that you are certain of things when in reality no one should be certain of that, that means I won’t see your certainty about gods, goddesses, dimensions and so on anymore.

MY RESPONSE:
I didn't come here to prove anything to you, because that is not my job to do that. The disciples preached the gospel in order to spread it. But you already have a copy of the Bible. So, it is up to you now to make your choice.

YOU SAID THIS:
Go and see a shrink as soon as possible if you have heard voices or at least one voice in your head that is not your own and if you don’t then don’t then don’t lie to me ever again.

MY RESPONSE:
Yes God speaks to people like me. We can hear His voice. And He tells us the truth. The truth is not a mental illness. So please keep trying. God tells us how to love and respect others. Love and respect is not a mental illness. But insulting others is mentally disturbed.

YOU SAID THIS:
You aren’t right about it right now and you never will be

MY RESPONSE:
Only God is right. That is why God's Presence gives you a character that is right. He heals character defects in your being.

YOU SAID THIS:
What is The Holy Spirit ? That is what the question should be, not who. It’s really just the wind or the damn communion wine

MY RESPONSE:
The Holy Spirit, or Holy Ghost is the Ghost that comes from God. He comes to live in the person. This is how God communicates to us. This is the "6th sense" ability. God's Presence living in the person is what makes that person life changed and healed . You don't drink a Ghost. So no, the Ghost is not wine. The Holy Spirit is like the wind in that He is invisible and He goes and comes and you can't see who He goes to live in next.
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GeraldtheGnome
GeraldtheGnome: Stop repeating my words, you are also on report for your behaviour. I will try to get you removed or at least have one of your messages deleted. You can respond to something without repeating the words of the other person so do so or never reply even once to myself and to everyone else that you harass in that manner. Use full stops when you need to, use spaces when you need to before colons, question marks and so on (if and when you actually need to use colons and so on), be realistic, stop using too many capitals and understand that no one has literally said anything to you on this text based site. If you are claiming that someone who was around in The Iron Age was named Jesus then you have to wake up to yourself because no one was named Jesus that long ago. There never was a Jesus born in The Iron Age, he doesn't exist, no one alive is 150 or more years. Each mere mortal is responsible for their own decisions so stop making false accusations and false claims in each forum. Your choices are dumb ones. Stop crapping on about life decisions, your not a pretentious 'Life Coach'. It's such a dumb, self appointed title by those who are self important. Don't use quotation marks the way that you do.

I'm not acting fool, learn to spell and I understand what is in any Bible better than you do, actually I take it back, you don't understand it at all. Stop crapping on about the made up term Human family, it's pretentious. You are pretentious. Stop using the born dying rubbish too. It just comes off as being silly. I know how the hand forms, entropy and so on. You aren't impressing me at all, quite the opposite is what you are doing. Don't be a hypocrite and also use double standards when referring to denial. You are in denial in a very big way, not me, you.

When you make a claim of certainty then it is for you to prove that claim rather than preach your ignorant and arrogant stories to me. If you can't prove something then at least show how it is possible, if you can't do either then never bring them up ever again and admit that you can't prove what you claim and that you can't even show why it is possible. Get that Bible, go to the bin and drop it in there and never use it again. You are severely brainwashed and need a shrink.
So if you don't come here to prove anything then show at least why anything you claim is possible or never tell myself and others about it ever again. The Disciples never existed. Sure, storytellers of the myths existed in their anonymous way,, but that is it. I can disprove things in The Bible with The Bible alone. You are either lying that a god has spoken to you, the word is spoken, not speaks, then again if that is not so then you are completely delusional, the only one who is truly insulting and mentally disturbed is you. You have no love or respect. You also have no shame with your preaching of The Bible.You and people like you are either liars or straight out insane. Stop using the word and at the front of a sentence. The truth is just the truth, nothing else and certainly nothing you know about. I am not trying anything. It's he, not He.

Use full stops. The Medieval named god and every other religious god is made up. Without an origin there is no possible way that the main god of Christianity is even around right now. Stop using quotation marks the wrong way. Bye air worshipper. P ss off ! Do you want to buy a vowel ? Spirits are alcohol you fool. Religious spirits are really just what the wind is, it is a breeze, it is air.



Regardless of what even most people that aren't religious believe, we are all Atheists in some way or another.

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youarewell2: GeraldtheGnome

YOU SAID THIS:
Spirits are alcohol you fool. Religious spirits are really just what the wind is, it is a breeze, it is air.

MY RESPONSE:
Correction. Alcohol is called spirits because ancient alchemist believed that the steam produced when they distilled or made alcohol were actual "spirits". They also believed when you drank their potion (alcohol) a spirit you. Jesus already told us how the Holy Spirit enters our body and it is not through drinking wine or alcohol. When you get a chance research why they called hard liquor "spiriits'. Also, research how the Holy Spirit enters the human being (John 3).


YOU SAID THIS:
Religious spirits are really just what the wind is, it is a breeze, it is air.

MY RESPONSE:


THE HOLY GHOST TALKS, AIR OR WIND DOES NOT TALK

Luke 2:26 - And it was revealed unto him by the Holy Ghost, that he should not see death, before he had seen the Lord's Christ.

Luke 3:22 - And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.

Luke 12:12 - For the Holy Ghost shall teach you in the same hour what ye ought to say.

John 14:26 - But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

Acts 2:4 - And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.


JESUS SPEAKS TO US THROUGH GOD"S HOLY GHOST, NOT THROUGH WIND OR AIR

Acts 1:2 - Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen:



THE HOLY SPIRIT HAS EMOTIONS, LIKE GRIEF. WIND DOES NOT HAVE GRIEF

Ephesians 4:30 - And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
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GeraldtheGnome
GeraldtheGnome: You were grammatically incorrect once again and you don't even have proof that there is any god around by any name, yet you have the cheek, audacity, hide, arrogance and ignorance to not only claim that a god is certainly around right now, but that you also know the names of gods and what they were like. Every religious god is made up. If you don't believe me then show what you think is evidence that proves that even one of them is around. Failure to even show the possibility that a Medieval god named God and a god named Jesus (which wasn't a name for anyone in The Iron Age and earlier than that) are certainly not made up will mean that unless you prove that they are around somewhere right now or possibly are should be followed up by you no longer crapping on that they are certainly around right now.

So far you have just gone on about complete nonsense. I want what is proven on possible, not just someone's imagined piece of crap because she can't bring herself to admitting that she doesn't know, that by the way is exactly what you have done so far. All that I have rejected is what is unrealistic from you. The spirit mentioned is the wind. Read the bloody book properly fool.

Regardless of what even the guy of the video thinks it still is true that we are all Atheists. If you think that I'm wrong about that then show me why. Reply without repeating my message and apologize for repeating every message of mine that you have repeated so far, do that or don't respond at all. I literally said nothing on this text based website.

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youarewell2: GeraldtheGnome

Over half your post has nothing to do with the topic. That is why I have to weed through all that nonsense and crap, just to get to your statements about the topic. You need to drop all that nonesense about grammar it makes it hard to follow you and read you. That is why I repost your statements that I feel are on topic and I respond to them. I do that so we can both get to the point of the discussion. That shouldn't stop you from responding to me in any way. I repost to organize the conversation because you are literally writing paragraphs and paragraphs about your dislike for grammar. Who cares! This is not an online English Class okay. And you have had so many grammar mistakes that it makes no sense for you to criticize others on grammar. So, again, if you see me repost your statement it is because you are leaving me with the extra task of trying to find your statements on the topic. Now, that we are clear why I have to repost let's move on with the topic. Btw, you keep repeating the same sentences over and over and I already gave you a response to it. But you don't seem to respond back. So I just ignore any and all statements that I already answered. And I definitely do not need you to teach me grammar because your grammar is not the best I have seen. If I want to learn grammar I wouldn't learn it on a forum from you. No offense, but I didn't pay you to teach me online grammar at all. If I make a mistake a spelling error or grammar mistake than please don't allow that to discourage you from addressing the topic. Be of Good cheer!! The topic still goes on. As long as you post all those long paragraphs that have nothing to do with the topic, I will repost your statements that I feel make sense to respond to. I will repost any of your statements and then give you my response to those statements.
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youarewell2: GeraldtheGnome

YOU SAID THIS:
Failure to even show the possibility that a Medieval god named God and a god named Jesus (which wasn't a name for anyone in The Iron Age and earlier than that) are certainly not made up will mean that unless you prove that they are around somewhere right now.......

MY RESPONSE:
There is "evidence" that God exists. But we can't really have a discussion about God unless you take the time and "investigate the evidence". I showed you that there is over 25 different types of evidence in this world. Science has over 5 different types of "evidence" it uses. Not all situtations, cases, studies require the same kind of "evidence". So far, if I am understanding you right, you want to debate with me without a thorough investigation of the "evidence" that proves the case that God exists and is real. Not that I want to argue, but if I did want to argue, I would prefer not to argue your fears or emotions. I would rather stick to arguing the "evidence". I don't care what you personally think of me, so you can stop filling this forum with off topic statements regarding me and stick to the topic and subject at ahand. How many people have you "interviewed" to gather "testimonial evidence" so you can come to your own personal decision? You may not like the Bible, but it is a historical document. How thoroughly have you examined the historical documentst of Ancient Israel's encounters with God? What other extra-Bibilcial evidence have you examined, such as artchaeological artifacts or documents? What other discoveries have been made by other people have you reviewed? What about your own personal experience? Have you had any extra-sensory experiences that led you to understand that they are from God? This is called "direct evidence" and it is also called "individual or expert witness evidence". It is premature to make a your personal decision on whether you can believe something or not without a fair, unbiased and through examiniation of the evidence. Further, to demand a certain type of evidence not available and to ignore the evidence available is not something any Scientist in this world would do. No investigator in the world would ignore the evidence available because they prefer another type of evidence. This is not a restaurant where you are ordering food, where you can sit up here and demand the evidence of your choice and reject the evidence available. Admissiable evidence in it's various forms is "admissiable" whether you prefer it or not.

LET"S BE CLEAR
I don't have to prove God to you. God proves Himself to the entire world. God chooses to give us the "evidence" of His choice. You will never dictate to a Superior Supreme force what it will and will not do and get the results you want. We don't tell acts of God, when it comes to nature what to do and not do. For instance, an act of God is out of control weather. We recognize that humanity is not in control of the weather. If God permits a Tsumai to swallow an island, you screaming that you prefer God not to do this is not going to do anything to stop an act of God.
God is not a human where you can tell God what He will and will not do. We accept the "evidence" that God is willing to provide us. And yes, God did provide us with that "evidence and proof".

God is being "testified" to exist. There are literally hundreds and hundreds of "testimonies" to observe. Tell me how many of these "testimonies" did you actually investigate? What are you statistics and findings of those "testimonies"? Do you not know that this is called "testimonial evidence" and this is admissiable evidence?

The Case for God continiues to rage on and forward. I shared with you the "evidence" that helped me to make my personal decision that God is real and God exist. But, it is your responsibility to do your own investigation, examination, observation of the "evidence" that we have and come to your own personal choice. Stop trying to shift your responsibility on me. I don't mind sharing with you my own discoveries, but I don't do that because I am forced in any way to prove anything to you. I am just like you. I am exercising my right to examine the evidence of God. I am exercising my right to make a personal decision whether I accept there is a God or not. That is purely everyone's right and their choice. If someone is making a different choice then I would ask why. That is really why we might come on a forum is to see what "evidence" or "information" led us to make different choices.

God leaves his case not in the hands of scientist , or our judicial courts, but in the hands of the common people in this world. Every person, will make their decision about God based on the "evidence" that He provides. Your job is not to sit on a forum and insult others for their God given right. You can share what you discovered if you want to. I can also share if I want to. We are not "required" to do this. It is just an act of courtesy if we do. You can take it or leave it. I am not here to convert you, change you or get you to do anything. That is between you and God. Only God's "evidence" can change your mind and change you anyway. I don't have any power to change you in any way. That is up to you and God.
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GeraldtheGnome
GeraldtheGnome: The difference is that I at least partially got back onto the topic, for 100 percent of the time you never tried to and of course you never did hypocrite. It's better to have something partially about the topic than not at all. So the one who did the worst thing on here accused me of doing the worst thing. You can see faults in others yet you cannot see faults about yourself. I'm aware of my own faults, where I have them, you should be aware of your own faults. It's hard for you to follow what people tell you and for you to read what they tell you, especially when they disagree with you and also because you don't even display that you understand what most people understand. I don't enjoy telling you that, it is true though. Don't use the word weed the wrong way, learn to spell, learn to read things correctly and be grammatically correct or at least try to be. The only things that are forms of nonsense (that you god right only once) and crap are what you come out about with your unrealistic way of thinking.

If something is a matter of fact in any way then it is proven, you haven't proven anything so far except that you are someone that makes false accusations and false claims constantly. Stop repeating my own words and that of others or never message me or whoever it is if it isn't me obviously. When you accuse someone of something that you yourself don't do then it shows that you have zero credibility and that you are a hypocrite. There literally never was a discussion on this text based site. You claimed that I dislike grammar. Do you even know what the word means or do you just like coming out with stupid false accusations or both ? Whatever the case is one of them is right. As I told you before, use spaces where they should be. You have a reading disability, well I hope that you are able to read like most people one day, until then improve on it.

Repeated crap such as the certainty that a god is around right now is not proof that there is a god, you fail to understand that, then again you fail to understand almost everything that is true. You repeat crap all of the time, so until you are an example of the opposite you should stop being a hypocrite and keep your rubbish statements to yourself. You are constantly rude and never answer questions, instead you dodge them, so once again Agnostic Polytheist Atheist you either show yourself as a good example of being worthwhile with your opposition or keep it to yourself. So you can keep being a hypocrite or you can bugger off or you can behave properly, take your pick. You never answered anything, at least not properly, you just have made excuses all of the time.

You never paid me for a lot of things, such as reading your unrealistic crap time and time again, Are you going to repeat the false claim that I am denying any god that you are for ? I'll address the topic alright and every mistake that you ever make, as I have hypocrite. Never use the word reposting ever again and in a sense no one has literally posted anything on here. Stop using too many capitals. Don't tell me to be of any type of cheer when you just want to constantly do the Bible bashing bit on me. The I must be wrong because I am not worshipping some invisible men in the sky (who in reality are made up) is the wrong way to think. Don't do that with exclamation marks. You yourself hypocrite make long messages that have nothing to do with any topic and because of that to address your rubbish I have to mainly go away from the topic. Bugger off !

I never literally said anything on this site, also I never used that many full stops, so you took things out of context again. So stop being a complete self righteous bitch, you know sweet bugger all. You couldn't prove that there is a god around named God, but then again you know in a sense that God is around. you are your own God. You are that one. That is why everything about him is right, it's because he is you and you are him. The word is exist you stupid woman.

There is no evidence, you made quite a lot of grammatical errors even in the latter half of your convoluted message. All the self confirmation rubbish of yours amounts to nothing. Yes to you it is true that in your mind you know that The Holy Spirit is a kind of god, in the real world it's about the wind blowing over the ocean just like what I saw when I went to the seaside on the weekend. Sure, you also know a god named God, in reality you don't, he is just whatever you want that god to be, that is why no matter what anyone tells you about that imaginary one he is whatever you want him to be and that a kind of Casper the friendly bloody Ghost is in him and in his father. Is that violation and rape just like the father is in the son and the son is in the father rubbish ? It's a rhetorical question so don't give me an answer to it. Everything you claim about your god according to you is true because you are your own god.

You literally do have a God complex in more ways than one. You can't prove that there is a god by any name, you can't prove that there is a Holy Spirit of the type that you think and you can't prove most of the stuff that you go on about. There is more than one made up creator god of this planet, to narrow it down to one does show your disbelief in not just a god, but with many gods. I have nothing against you having Polytheist beliefs, I am though against your misguided certainty that they are around right now though when neither of us will ever be certain that even one god is around anywhere right now, that goes with any Holy Spirit. There are also other spirits of that sort in other myths, so you rule them out too. Stuff this, you still use too many commas and you use quotation marks there. Maybe your self dreamt up version of a Medieval god named has an answer for that the next time you hear a voice in your head that you think is from him. I have to leave, the wind, I mean The Holy Spirit (after I've had a few too many drinks) just went past, I should try to catch him. Praise the Lord ! Jesus bloody Christ !

Amen.
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youarewell2: GeraldtheGnome

YOU SAID THIS:
You can see faults in others yet you cannot see faults about yourself. I'm aware of my own faults, where I have them, you should be aware of your own faults.

MY RESPONSE:
This is off topic.
What does this have to do with you investigating the "evidence" of God?
This is not about "faults". This is about you making a decision based on the "evidence".
You are sitting in a world of "evidence" but you say give you "evidence"? You are just making an excuse to stay in denial. Btw,you don't act like a person that thinks God is "imaginary". I don't know about you, but I don't spend all day in forums becoming so emotional about something I know is not real. I don't have time to be writing paragraph and paragraphs to people you claim are delusional and mentally ill. I am too busy going to do things I enjoy and things I really feel passionate about. I like to enjoy things that are "real" to me not "imagined". Your behavior seems "contradictory". But, I am not "faulting" you for this. I just think you owe it to yourself to stop denying the "evidence" and start looking at the "evidence". If you have to go around challenging others for "proof" then it means you are not satisfied with your current decision and answer. Who wants "proof" for something that they keep saying is "imaginary"? Who cares if a group of people think something is real? If I really know something is only imaginary I don't hang around them and argue with them all day. I am like let them think whatever they think. It makes absolutey no sense at all to insult people about something you can neither prove or disprove. Do you think insulting them, makes what they believe not proven or something? If you need "proof" of what you say is imaginary, then it seems you are not done investigating the "proof" that is actually availlable. So, you really don't think God is "imaginary" if you are still asking for "proof". I don't care if you type God is imaginary a million times, it does not matter, because you keep asking for "proof" of God a million times. You are contradicting your own so called belief that God is imaginary by even asking for the proof in the first place. But, I am not "faulting" you for this. I am just here to tell you good news, there is "plenty of evidence" that proves God exists. It is up to you to come out of "denial" of this evidence and start investigating it.




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youarewell2: The Holy Spirit is The Ghost of God that comes to live in the bodies with a person. Jesus communicates with a person through this Ghost. Also, known as the Holy Ghost.
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GeraldtheGnome: You made a lot of grammatical errors again, Btw,you is one example, no one said anything to you and because I never said anything to you your crap about I said something is a false statement by you. Never repeat my words when you make a message again ever.

This is nothing other than about faults, it is completely about the topic, A Holy Spirit is supposed to be a supernatural god entity that is around two gods, within them, it's everywhere, including with in each of us, that is the theory. Well in a way it is true, it's within the gods of those that think that certain gods are around so they mistakenly convince themselves that their self thought up versions of those gods all that they claim them to be, in reality the only thing that is within everyone everywhere on Earth and around every living thing as well as within every living thing and around every life form is the air. So enough with your false accusations and false claims, I just proved that I was completely on topic and that you well and truly cannot spot your own faults, Touche.

This forum really isn't about the evidence that proves or disproves that there is a god, instead it's about a false claim about a supernatural god entity that is supposed to be like Casper the bloody Ghost. But yes, there never was a spirit of any god, the god is made up, an uncreated god is around claim is just a claim by someone who didn't have the guts to admit that that one made it all up because that one did not know at all what was true. No evidence has been provided to me, only false flaims have. No one so far has said anything to you on here. Hypocrite, you deny that you don't know because you think that you are certain that you know and then you make excuses because even the idea that the one you blindly worship is made up is too much for you to handle. The Bible has in it that he is around right now and because it has that he is around right now you mistakenly think that he must be around right now. The claim is not evidence that proves what is claimed. You and your circular reasoning. I never once showed any denial of what you falsely accuse me of being in denial of. Your pathetic attempts have failed once again, Bob has a 'safe space for you though'. I don't act like anything on here.

No one does what you falsely accused me of, don't get any more emotional about that though than you already have delusional one. But you do do what you don't claim to do and you are mentally ill as well. You keep telling everyone your false claims and thinking that they are certainly true. You are not as busy as you claim when you have very rudely repeated my words and that of others when you were told to cease doing it. A lot of things aren't considered imaginary to you due to your very unrealistic way of thinking. You constantly contradict yourself, I haven't done it at all. No one rational is satisfied with your unrealistic claims and accusations, that is all that is true about what I have encountered from you just as others have. I want proof about what is so, something that was possibly overlooked by me, time and time again you have shown that I overlooked nothing and that you haven't shown why what you believe in is not imaginary. A lot of people have thought that many things were true throughout time that weren't, at worst millions died due to the belief system that many got conned over by, so many people care what a group of people think is true. No one has argued with you all day, besides you are arguing that I am not aware of what you think is true. All of the worst people in the world were allowed to think whatever they wanted to think, look at what happened due to that.

You insult people all of the time, especially with your crap about denying a god that you yourself have no evidence that proves that he is around anywhere. So please hypocrite, never show that self righteous rubbish again. If you keep on telling me that he is around right now then you show that you are right or you show nothing about him and never use the God name for the Christian god ever again on a forum. I haven't contradicted myself, you have contradicted yourself many times. Use the words I don't know if you can't find anything overlooked by me and stop making false accusations about the one that you so far have no proof of or find what you think that I have overlooked. The Holy Spirit concept was in The Bible well before any rubbish about that. The crap about the spirit of God (which originally was about the spirit of the gods and goddesses) was in Genesis chapter one, it's just about an ocean breeze over the ocean.

Jesus, yes Jesus, a name that no one in The Iron Age ever used. The original named used wasn't even remotely like Jesus and the first 'eyewitness accounts' were by those that were eyewitnesses to nothing well after the event is claimed to have happened.
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youarewell2: GeraldtheGnome

YOU SAID THIS:
A Holy Spirit is supposed to be a supernatural god entity that is around two gods, within them, it's everywhere, including with in each of us, that is the theory. Well in a way it is true, it's within the gods of those that think that certain gods are around so they mistakenly convince themselves that their self thought up versions of those gods all that they claim them to be, in reality the only thing that is within everyone everywhere on Earth and around every living thing as well as within every living thing and around every life form is the air.


MY RESPONSE:
Okay, I understand you.

So, since air is everywhere and everyone breathes air, you think "air" is the Holy Ghost.

This is a simple "error" that can be fixed with you "reading" what the Bible calls Holy Ghost.

Now don't get me wrong, I acknowledge and understand you call the Holy Ghost air. But the problem with your explanation is the Bible is calling the Holy Spirit something else.


THE BIBLE SAYS

1. HE HAS EMOTIONS. The air does not have emotions.
You can anger Him, displease him, hurt him, grieve him, make him very sad or heartbroken. You can make him happy as well. He reacts to you through emotions.

2. HE CAN TALK TO YOU. The air does not talk.
The Bible shows that the Holy Spirit has an ability to communicate to people and can actually talk to them.

3. HE CAN TEACH YOU. The air does not teach you what you don't know.
The Bible shows that the Holy Spirit can tell a human being things they don't know. He can teach the future.

4. THE HOLY SPIRIT IS INVISIBLE. The air is also invisible.
You can't see this invisible Presence. You can't see air, but that does not mean they are the same thing. They just share a similarity, of being invisible.

5. THE HOLY SPIRIT IS SOMETHING GOD GIVES TO PEOPLE. SOME PEOPLE HAVE THIS GIFT SOME PEOPLE DON"T. All people breathe air, unless they are dead.
We all breath air, but we dont' all have the gift of the Holy Spirit living inside of our body.

6. THE HOLY SPIRIT DOES NOT COME IN THE BODY THROUGH THE LUNG,, but comes to live in your human inner being, soul, ghost and consciousness.

7. THE HOLY GHOST CAN GIVE HUMANS THE ABILITY TO SPEAK LANGUAGES THEY DON"T KNOW. Air cannot give you an ability to speak a language you never learned instantly.

8. THE HOLY GHOST CAN HEAL PEOPLE SICK WITH ILLNESS. The air does not heal anyone.

9. THE HOLY GHOST CAN RAISE THE DEAD. Breathing air does not keep you from dying, nor once you are dead does air bring you back to life. The Holy Spirit gives the human the ability to revive or transition through death.

10. THE HOLY SPIRIT EXISTED BEFORE THE ATMOSPHERIC AIR EXISTED. The Holy Spirit existed before there was Air. Air is just Nitrogen and Oxygen mainly, with some other trace elements and molecules etc, in it. Before there was Oxygen or Nitrogen and other elements the Holy Spirit was already here.

11. THE HOLY SPIRIT CAN TELL PEOPLE THEY ARE DOING WHAT IS RIGH OR WRONG. The Holy Spirit is the invisible force telling the minds of all humans about Jesus and what they are doing right and wrong. The air does not talk to you or tell you anything.

12.THE WORLD CANNOT ACCEPT THE HOLY SPIRIT BECAUSE THEY CAN"T SEE HIM.You can't see air either , but you still accept it is real.
The people in this world are stuck in animalistic mind set of only knowing the natural world through the 5 senses. They cannot detect or mentally accept the Holy Spirit because they are unable to sense HIM through their animal senses. Animals 5 senses, means that even the animals have 5 senses. They live, eat, drink, fight mate to reproduce, urinate, defecate and die. Human beings, have an higher function and is a higher creature than an animal, once the HOLY SPIRIT comes in their lives, they function as a Higher being. Air does not do this.

13, THE HOLY SPIRIT WAS WITH GOD CREATING THE WORLD. The air did not Create Planet Earth.




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GeraldtheGnome: Use full stops when you should do so, use spaces when you should do so, use quotation marks when you should use them, you haven't done that, stop using too many capitals and stop being a know it all. I said nothing on this text based site, never message me again or at least never message me with repeated words of mine included. 'And the Spirit of Élöhîm moved upon the face of the waters.' It's a failed attempt to claim that it is about a god who moved over the water. Here's what's wrong with it, the word and should not be at the start of a sentence for a start, Elohim or elohim is the plural of the word god, as in any god, not just that of any specific Christian god. So it means gods, the other problem of it used as Elohim/elohim as the name of a god or falsely claimed to be a title is that it is about gods and even then there's the other problem that the word god was not gender specific for a certain amount of time, this is proven by what is shown later on in Genesis chapter one where it's specifically about gods and goddesses with the bit about the Humans being created from nothing being in their image, it was specifically about the claim of the first male and female of the Homo Sapiens Sapiens Subspecies being created from nothing rather than about anything realistic about evolution.

So it's about imaginary gods and goddesses that are falsely claimed to have created Humans from nothing. Eloah is the word for god and for a time it was also the name of a god if you trace Judaism back to the Pagan Polytheist religion that it came from or more precisely one of the religions that it came from. El for example was another early name that is also a word. Now back to the spirit that some refer to as The Holy Spirit or The Holy Ghost and how some mistakenly replaced Elohim for the name God and that of many other names.

The Hebrew וְרוּח means rûªch which means ruwach (roo'-akh) which means wind/breath in English and by the way of the imagination it also means spirit/ghost/Holy Spirit/Holy Ghost and using the stretch of an imagination is the wrong way to use the word. So after that one religious fool after another who assumed they knew what it meant added a supernatural element to it and that it meant some Ghost god who is the ghost of another god according to some. So yes imaginary gods and goddesses are mentioned quite a lot in The Tanakh, The Bible, The Quran and so on. Earth was not created. North Americans always say "Aloominum" when they speak makes me laugh, pronunciation errors such as that are odd. You used one space too many in one spot and you used return before you finished one paragraph.





The Bible says nothing, stop using the word says the wrong way. The Bible just simply has in it whatever those that used those stories wanted people to know about, that is all. The Bible has claims within it and the claims within it are also claimed to be proof of what is claimed. No one is really sure about how Earth's Moon formed, everyone has guessed how, it is most likely never going to be known how exactly it formed. The Earth and The Moon are not life forms so they were never born, they were therefore never young and so on. I never called anything anything on this text based site.

'He' is you and you have emotions, you are the god with the medieval name named 'God' that you believe in. In reality you are not a god, nor is anyone else and every religious god is made up. The world is not a life form, it literally can't see anything.
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youarewell2: GeraldtheGnome

YOU SAID THIS:
And the Spirit of Élöhîm moved upon the face of the waters.' It's a failed attempt to claim that it is about a god who moved over the water. Elohim or elohim is the plural of the word god, as in any god, not just that of any specific Christian god. So it means gods,

MY RESPONSE:
Well, you are reading 2 verses out of 31,102 verses. Obviously, you would have to read more than the first 2 verses to see which "Elohim aka Rulers/Judges" the first 2 verses are talking about.

What you are doing is trying to tell us about a book you are not reading. That is like reading the first two sentences in a book and then trying to tell us who the characters are.

Haven't you seen books open up about a character that has no name, For instance, a book might start off describing a woman, with no name by using a general pronoun "She". Even if it was talking about a group of women, it might say something like "The women". That does not mean every entire women in the world, even though it is using a "general word" that is "plural".
to describe a "particular group of women" or a "particular woman". As you read on in the book, you will see exactly what "woman" or "women" the book is referring to.

Obviously, as you read past the first 2 verses of the Bible you will learn exactly who the "Elohim" are. And you will find that it is the Christian God, and not the Pagan gods.

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youarewell2: GeraldtheGnome


YOU SAID THIS:
Humans being created from nothing being in their image, it was specifically about the claim of the first male and female of the Homo Sapiens Sapiens Subspecies being created from nothing rather than about anything realistic about evolution.


MY RESPONSE:
The Bible does not say that the first male and femaile were created from "nothing". You might want to go back and see what they were created with.
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youarewell2: GeraldtheGnome

YOU SAID THIS:
Eloah is the word for god and for a time it was also the name of a god if you trace Judaism back to the Pagan Polytheist religion that it came from or more precisely one of the religions that it came from. El for example was another early name that is also a word.

YOU ALSO SAID THIS:
And the Spirit of Élöhîm moved upon the face of the waters.' It's a failed attempt to claim that it is about a god who moved over the water. Elohim or elohim is the plural of the word god, as in any god, not just that of any specific Christian god. So it means gods,

MY RESPONSE:
1, True, "Eloah" is "singular". It means "god" or not more than one god.

2, True. Elohim, is the "plural", meaning more than one "judge, ruler, god, goddess, angels, diety, divine one".

3. True. Genesis 1:2, uses the "plural" "Elohim" and not "Eloah" the singular. Which tells us there was more than one "Divine one" . Which is consistent with what Jesus message revealed to us.

4. False. Judiasm does not trace back to Paganism or Polytheism, just because the Bible uses the plural "Elohim". to describe more than one "Divine one" at the beginning of creation.

5. True. We find out who the "Elohim" are when we finish reading and studying the other 31, 102 verses in the Bible. Stopping at the first "2 verses" and then concluding that Elohim meant the other Pagan gods is a " false conclusion" due to the other verses that tell us who the "Elohim" are. The "Elohim" of the Bible are not the same as other pagan gods or goddesses.

6. True. The Bible goes on to reveal That there is only 3 Divine persons that possess the "ONE GOD NATURE" and there is only "ONE GOD". This means all the other pagan gods or goddesses do not have the "ONE GOD NATURE" and they are are not "GOD". There is only "ONE GOD FAMILY". The other pagan gods are created beings of the "ONE GOD". If you continue to read the book it will reveal all the characters.
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GeraldtheGnome: Use full stops when you should, don't end a sentence with a comma, I said nothing on this text based site you self righteous and self entitled brat, stop using too many capitals, use spaces when you should and use words instead of numbers.



I am not reading any verse right now, you really don't know how to use the past tense for a start. Elohim is the plural of eloah, eloah means god, not elohim, so you can in the future continue to crap on about what you think something means but it still won't make a difference. As it is the myth is about imaginary gods and goddesses. Verses don't talk by the way. You are still using quotation marks for no good reason whatsoever. Books don't talk, they never have talked.

Using who that way and are about elohim/Elohim is plural reference only, so you just went against what you first tried to tell me, well done. You still use too many commas in some parts of your messages and you use and at the front of a sentence and after a comma. That is not on. The Christian gods are based on the gods of Judaism and those gods are based on the Hebrew Pagan gods from before than. It goes back even further than that, it will do for now.

You are right. It doesn't say anything at all, it's text based. It is also not about a male and a femaile that were created from nothing. You got me there. You are too smart for me. A male and a femaile weren't created by anything. Your second thing is a false claim that some believe in, then again I sometimes forget that you are 'God' and of course 'God', you in other words, is all knowing, so sorry 'God', it must be right because you are always right according to you God. A Jesus (that isn't a name that was even around as far back as The Iron Age) never revealed anything. Sorry about that, I forgot, you are God and God is always right so you are right again (only in your dreams).

You are so right, Judaism doesn't because it is Polytheistic, just less so then Christianity is though. They both are based on earlier Pagan beliefs. Oh wait, I'm wrong again, I keep forgetting that you are God and that God is always right. Creation must have happened because you told me that it did, after all you are God and God is always right. Even you mentioned that they are pagan gods and goddesses and after all that you told me there it means that because it came from Judaism so Judaism too has Pagan gods and goddesses. What a 'tangled' web (in a sense) you weave, you are getting caught up virtually in a virtual web that you made. The word is people, not persons, so stop using politically correct English. Since you claimed that they are people this means that they are not truly gods at all and since you know such much about it (even though in reality you know nothing about it at all) you are God. You are the God to whom you refer to. Who is The Holy Spirit ? No one. The answer my 'friend' is not even blowing in the wind, the question still should be 'What is The Holy Spirit ?' for the answer my 'friend' is the wind.



Never copy my words in a message or just never message me.
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youarewell2: GeraldtheGnome

YOU POSTED THIS:

I am not reading any verse right now, you really don't know how to use the past tense for a start. Elohim is the plural of eloah, eloah means god, not elohim, so you can in the future continue to crap on about what you think something means but it still won't make a difference.

MY RESPONSE:

The point was "Eloah" is not used in Genesis, so why is it relevant? Genesis uses "Elohim", which is plural. "Elohim" used in Genesis is not talking about all gods and goddesses and you find that out when you finish reading the rest of the Bible. You can't take (1 ) verse out of context of 31,102 verses and come to a right conclusion. You have to study the rest of the verses, to see who the "Elohim" of the Bible is.
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GeraldtheGnome: There wasn't enough full stops by you, you used too many capitals, you used the word posted instead of the words 'replied with', that of course means that you stuffed up and you keep using colons without spaces. Only use colons when you need to. My point was and still is that every part of the damn Bible, which by the way you should either sell or put in the bin, where Eloah is not and Elohim is, which is not just in The Book of Genesis (or more appropriately the Hebrew name) then it is never about a singular god, I know that there were umpteen bad attempts to make the book look like whenever elohim/Elohim was used to be about one god, but those times were dismal failures. If they wanted those parts to be passed off as being then it should have been about eloah in those parts or without the word elohim in them at all. I never even used one verse out of context hypocrite, you did that instead.

Later on there were various ways to counter the problem with that, which by the time English came about it included using the name God and the title Lord. It still didn't solve the problem though and it is still a very big problem just like you are. Use words instead of numbers, only use commas when you need to, don't use brackets that way ever again. There also isn't exactly such and such amount of verses. It varies on the denomination, so you just made another false claim, well done. Stop making false accusations and false claims. Use a space before the question mark also. Stop repeating my words in your messages or stop sending me messages on here. The Holy Spirit is still only the wind.
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youarewell2: GeraldtheGnome

YOU SAID THIS:
My point was and still is that every part of the damn Bible, which by the way you should either sell or put in the bin,


MY RESPONSE:
Why put something in the bin or sell it, if it works? I Also, even if you sell it, people will buy it because it is the number one best selling book in the world. No other book has been sold as much. 5 billion copies and counting has been sold.


YOU SAID THIS:
where Eloah is not and Elohim is, which is not just in The Book of Genesis (or more appropriately the Hebrew name) then it is never about a singular god, I know that there were umpteen bad attempts to make the book look like whenever elohim/Elohim was used to be about one god, but those times were dismal failures

MY RESPONSE:

I didn't say that Elohim was only in the Book of Genesis. I said the word and description of the word is consistent throughout the Bible.

But you are the one that posted Genesis 1:2 , that is why I am referring to Genesis. Do you post and say stuff and forget what you say or something?

Yes, the Bible is talking about ONE GOD. Even though, Elohim is plural, the Bible is saying that there is only ONE Elohim. There is only ONE-ELOHIM family. So, all the other gods, goddesses are not this ONE ELOHIM that Genesis shows created life, humans, plants, animals and the planet. As you keep reading, the Bible you will see who and what the ONE-Elohim is. But you can't tell that from just reading (1 ) verse.

This is not the same as Poly-theism where the gods or goddesses are often not related or sharing "ONE" nature.
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GeraldtheGnome: It worked on brainwashing you, so if you think that it works, well then I must admit that it works that way. You still have a lot of grammatical mistakes on here. You never said anything on this text based site and neither did I, so in that way you are right there God. I never used things out of context and I certainly never said anything on here. You really have made too many false accusations and false claims on this site. I posted nothing on here, I told you that I do not use the internet version of that word. I never forgot anything that you think I did, you just have failed to understand something basic, that is all there is to it. The Bible never talks, if you think it is then lie on a couch and tell someone about how your mother is.

The Bible is about many gods and goddesses. All of them are made up, it's still about them though. There is no Poly-theism, it's just one continuous word. You don't understand what the word Elohim means and you keep mistakenly assuming that it is about one verse, you have repeated that same crap message several times now. No matter how many times you repeat it the case is that it will never become correct. So if you have nothing other than more false claims and false accusations then be on your way now. There is no Holy Spirit, it's the wind, even you stuffed up and claimed that all three were people. Well in a sense they all originated from people in the way that you perceive it since anonymous story tellers made them up.
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youarewell2: GeraldtheGnome

YOU POSTED THIS:
It worked on brainwashing you, so if you think that it works, well then I must admit that it works that way.

MY RESPONSE:
This is a contradiction.

If a person is brainwashed, you can't then say "So if you think it works".

Brainwashing is not "thinking".

Thinking something works, is "thinking".
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GeraldtheGnome: There was no contradiction by me. False accusations from you never look good for you. If a Bible works then you think that it works in a certain way that is right and true when in reality you are delusional and brainwashed because of what you read. I shouldn't have to explain something as basic as that you. Most people that think properly know that the book is not based on a true story, that it is about made up stuff.

There is only one gods doesn't make any sense. You just don't get it. One gods, one gods family, please stop making up excuses about things that you don't understand. Whatever way you try to make it out to be about one god it just doesn't make any sense. It's grammatically incorrect and it's silly too. If you think in a certain way about things in an unrealistic way by what you have read then you are brainwashed by what someone wrote down in a book. No one is The Holy Spirit.
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