FAITH (Page 7) I have already answered that question. Go back & reread what I've written. It's all very clear, if you abandon YOUR erroneous beliefs. Okay, so your answer is, the word "word" is not Jesus Christ!! So this is what written for you. Galatians 1:1-10. AND 2 Thessalonians 2:8-12. In 2 Thessalonians 2:8-12, the apostle Paul is talking about your pope!! The trinity teaching (Edited by m_leonora1111) I don't have to read, go and learn where your trinity doctrine foundation has started. The origin of the Roman Catholic Church!! Find it on YouTube!! Maybe you can wake up and ask me to teach you how to understand the scriptures. Specially the prophecies of our time!! Revelation 1:3 There is no way to hide my friend!! Every real Christian search for the foundation of their beliefs. So, Everyone here who has go where I have sent you to go, knows that your teachings is not Biblical. You don't have any evidence that proves that your false Trinity doctrine is Biblical. I have ask you Biblical questions, you cannot answered them. Why? Because your three gods in one is not written in the Bible. Everybody that are following only the Bible as their guidance have the truth. If this false Trinity doctrine was true, then why can I find any statement, or chapters and verses with this WORDS: God Jesus Christ, God Holy Spirit, Triune God, Trinity, Three in one God, Secret Rapture, Holy Spirit with a Spirit? We want you to show us, for us to believe if this teaching is BIBLICAL. Stop lying. No one is hiding. You are just WRONG & incapable of accepting the truth that I have already shown to you using Biblical verses & sound reasoning. I've also already answered your questions in detail & you fail to comprehend because you do NOT want to accept the obvious truth. You are here just to argue & try to promote your irrational & false beliefs. (Edited by zeffur) You didn't show me where I can read the word "god holy spirit" and all the other strange gods from your Bible. Because in my Bible I cannot find god holy spirit. All that I can find is: "God's Holy Spirit", "THE Spirit OF God", "The Spirit OF Jesus", and the "Holy Spirit". What is the difference between god holy spirit, and the Holy Spirit OF God? You are an English speaking person, I'm not!! So, explain me the difference in details!! Yes! Some to live with God forever, and others with Satan in the lake of fire forever. This people belong to God. Revelation 12:17, and Revelation 14:12. And those that are now learning the true way of God. But those who know the truth, and keep sinning shall not enter the kingdom of God. Go read Revelation 14:6-13. Verse 12 is written for me!! Can your trinity teaching accept verse 12? God = (Father, Son, & Holy Ghost/Spirit). That is the reason that Jesus instructed His Apostles to baptize people in God's names. Funny how you can accept Jesus as God, but you can't accept The Holy Spirit as God--they are all from the same source. You really are a very confused person. (Edited by zeffur) God is not a name. Jehovah = Father, Jesus Christ = Son. And what is the name of the Holy Spirit? Holy Spirit is simple a spirit that is Holy. All other spirits in Heaven are holy, because they don't have sin. God's Holy Spirit is not a BEING!! HOW MANY TIMES I HAVE TO WRITE THE SAME THING!! O!! My LORD!! Can you open just one of this people their eyes and mind, so that they can see, and understand? I ask you this in the name of Jesus Christ. Go now that I have pray on my page, Matthew 28:19 explained. And ask God to open your mind and eyes, and also to change your heart ❤ of stone. God is a word that means deity. There is only 1 true God. He has many names Yahweh/Yehovah/Jehovah (YHWH), Adonai, El, Elohim, Shaddai, Tzevaot, Ehyeh, God consists of Father, Word/Son/Jesus, & Holy spirit. The Holy Ghost/Spirit is called Spirit of Truth, Spirit of God, Comforter, etc. Your confusion about this is YOUR problem, not anyone else's problem. (Edited by zeffur) No, you are confused because you cannot used only what is written in the Bible, and you cannot answered my questions. I ask you again, aslong that the Holy Spirit is a being in your false Trinity doctrine. It suppose to have I name like all the other being in Heaven. So we have Jehovah God the Father. We have Jesus Christ the Son. Now, what is the name of your god holy spirit (being)? We have Archangel Michael. We have Archangel Gabriel. Give me the name of this god holy spirit that are not Jesus and the Father, in your body!! Because I don't have any strange spirit in this temple (my body). You're just a liar at this point, dude. We've both used Biblical verses to show you the truth & to point out that your cultish beliefs are asinine. Is The Holy Ghost/Spirit of God or not??? Of course He is. Is The Holy Ghost/Spirit dispatched to the earth? Of course He is. Is God & Jesus in heaven without Spirits? No, of course they have the same Spirit but different attributes/functions/powers. So, yeah, you're just completely bonkers in your cult beliefs. God (Father, Son, & Holy Spirit) all exist & are all ONE in intent & purpose. Get over your dishonest self & stop trying to spread unnecessary confusion & false teaching. (Edited by zeffur) Answerd my questions!! What is the name of your god holy spirit? Because my Holy Spirit is not a God. He is God the Father and Jesus Christ They self in Spirit. (Breath/Mind, power). Not another spirit being. If you trinity teaching is Biblical, I will read the name of this being god holy spirit, that has never been spoken with God the Father, or Jesus Christ the Son, or both!! Show me where in the Bible, chapters and verses, where I can read that your god holy spirit has says a word to God and Jesus. No my friend, God the Father has always in existence. Jesus is the second in existence. Stop talking about consistent, because I cannot find what you are saying in the Bible. Now you are accepting a little about the Holy Spirit. Yes! The Holy Spirit, (not God holy spirit) is the Spirit OF GOD. THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH. I'm happy now that you start to understand the difference between god holy spirit, and the Holy Spirit OF GOD!! (Edited by m_leonora1111) Go read Proverbs 8:22-31. Maybe you can learn something more!! By the way!! What is the name of your god holy spirit again? The strange spirit that is in your body, that still have you under hypnosis!! (Edited by m_leonora1111) God is Spirit--in Him is no darkness. The Father, Word, & the Holy Ghost/Spirit always existed as God. God (Father, Word, & Holy Ghost/Spirit) were all in existence when God made Jesus via the Holy Spirit. The only person that is confused or in a stupid hypnotic state is YOU with your indefensible cultish beliefs. Your reasoning is illogical. You recognize that The Father & Word/Son/Jesus are God, but you deny that God's Holy Ghost/Spirit is God.. Could you be more illogical & confused?? Just incredible!! Do you also erroneously conclude that when The Holy Ghost/Spirits Comforts, guides, & otherwise blesses mankind that it sn't from God? Obviously The Holy Ghost/Spirits is of God & God in every conceivable way just as The Father & Word/Son/Jesus are God. You have NO sound basis for your absurd cultish beliefs. (Edited by zeffur) re: "Is the Holy Spirit God? The short answer to this question is, yes, the Holy Spirit as described in the Bible is fully God. Along with God the Father and God the Son (Jesus Christ), God the Spirit is the third member of the Godhead or the Trinity. Those who challenge the idea that the Holy Spirit is God suggest that the Holy Spirit may simply be an impersonal force of some kind, a source of power controlled by God but not fully a person Himself. Others suggest that perhaps the Holy Spirit is just another name for Jesus, in spirit form, apart from His body. Neither of these ideas lines up with what the Bible actually says about the Holy Spirit, though. The Bible describes the Holy Spirit as a person who has been present with the Father and the Son since before time began. The Spirit is integral to all of the things that God is described as doing in the Bible. The Spirit of God was present at and involved in creation (Genesis 1:2; Psalm 33:6). The Holy Spirit moved the prophets of God with the words of God (2 Peter 1:21). The bodies of those in Christ are described as temples of God because the Holy Spirit is in us (1 Corinthians 6:19). Jesus was clear that to be “born again,” to become a Christian, one must be born “of the Spirit” (John 3:5). One of the most convincing statements in the Bible about the Holy Spirit being God is found in Acts 5. When Ananias lied about the price of a piece of property, Peter said that Satan had filled Ananias’s heart to “lie to the Holy Spirit” (Acts 5:3) and concluded by saying that Ananias had “lied to God” (verse 4). Peter reveals that the Holy Spirit is God. Lying to the Holy Spirit is lying to God. Jesus told His disciples that the Holy Spirit, the Helper, was different from Himself. The Father would send the Helper, the Spirit of truth, after Christ departed. The Spirit would speak through the disciples about Jesus (John 14:25–26; 15:26–27; 16:7–15). All three Persons Jesus mentions—Father, Son, and Holy Spirit—are God while being distinct from each other within the Trinity. The three members of the Trinity show up, together yet distinct, at Jesus’ baptism. As Jesus comes up from the water, the Spirit descends on Him like a dove while the voice of the Father is heard from heaven saying that He is pleased with His beloved Son (Mark 1:10–11). Finally, the Bible describes the Holy Spirit as a person, not a mere force. He can be grieved (Ephesians 4:30). He has a will (1 Corinthians 12:4-7). He uses His mind to search the deep things of God (1 Corinthians 2:10). And He has fellowship with believers (2 Corinthians 13:14). Clearly, the Spirit is a person, just as the Father and the Son are persons. Indeed, the Bible is unequivocal that the Holy Spirit is, in fact, God, just as Jesus Christ and the Father are God." src: https://www.gotquestions.org/is-the-Holy-Spirit-God.html Further Study: https://www.christianbook.com/the-holy-spirit-revised-expanded/charles-ryrie/9780802435781/pd/35785?event=AFF&p=1011693& "Is the Holy Spirit a person? Many people find the doctrine of the Holy Spirit confusing. Is the Holy Spirit a force, a person, or something else? What does the Bible teach? The Bible provides many ways to help us understand that the Holy Spirit is truly a person—that is, He is a personal being, rather than an impersonal thing. First, every pronoun used in reference to the Spirit is “he” not “it.” The original Greek language of the New Testament is explicit in confirming the person of the Holy Spirit. The word for “Spirit” (pneuma) is neuter and would naturally take neuter pronouns to have grammatical agreement. Yet, in many cases, masculine pronouns are found (e.g., John 15:26; 16:13-14). Grammatically, there is no other way to understand the pronouns of the New Testament related to the Holy Spirit—He is referred to as a “He,” as a person. Matthew 28:19 teaches us to baptize in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. This is a collective reference to one Triune God. Also, we are not to grieve the Holy Spirit (Ephesians 4:30). The Spirit can be sinned against (Isaiah 63:10) and lied to (Acts 5:3). We are to obey Him (Acts 10:19–21) and honor Him (Psalm 51:11). The personhood of the Holy Spirit is also affirmed by His many works. He was personally involved in creation (Genesis 1:2), empowers God’s people (Zechariah 4:6), guides (Romans 8:14), comforts (John 14:26), convicts (John 16:8), teaches (John 16:13), restrains sin (Isaiah 59:19), and gives commands (Acts 8:29). Each of these works requires the involvement of a person rather than a mere force, thing, or idea. The Holy Spirit’s attributes also point to His personality. The Holy Spirit has life (Romans 8:2), has a will (1 Corinthians 12:11), is omniscient (1 Corinthians 2:10–11), is eternal (Hebrews 9:14), and is omnipresent (Psalm 139:7). A mere force could not possess all of these attributes, but the Holy Spirit does. And the personhood of the Holy Spirit is affirmed by His role as the third Person of the Godhead. Only a being who is equal to God (Matthew 28:19) and possesses the attributes of omniscience, omnipresence, and eternality could be defined as God. In Acts 5:3–4, Peter referred to the Holy Spirit as God, stating, “Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land? Didn’t it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn’t the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied just to human beings but to God.” Paul likewise referred to the Holy Spirit as God in 2 Corinthians 3:17–18, stating, “Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate the Lord’s glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.” The Holy Spirit is a person, as Scripture makes clear. As such, He is to be revered as God and serves in perfect unity with Father and Son to lead us in our spiritual lives." src: https://www.gotquestions.org/Holy-Spirit-person.html | Religion Chat Room 32 People Chatting Similar Conversations |
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