FAITH (Page 4)

I have start who or what is the Holy Spirit. When I finished, body, soul, and spirit, so that when you study it with an open mind, and used only your Bible. Then you can see the difference between: Spirit, Soul, and body. And also that the Holy Spirit is not a being. It is God's breath/mind, God's nature, God's power.

Show me in the Bible the word "god holy spirit". Because all in the Bible is written: "God's Holy Spirit", the Holy Spirit OF God".

So that means the Holy Spirit is something that belongs to God. Not an other separate being. That god holy spirit of yours, that you don't know how it's look like, and he has never spoken to God Jehovah or Jesus Christ or both!! Amazing!!🤔🤔

So this god holy spirit that are in your body, (temple) is Satan himself!!

You obviously do NOT know what you are prattling on about...
God goes by many names. Father, Son, Holy Spirit, The Word, Jehovah, Elohim, Adonai, I AM, etc.

Jesus was The Word before He became God incarnate.

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men." Joh 1:1-4 KJV

"Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life." Joh 8:12

The same goes for the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is also God (one aspect of God like The Word was/is one aspect of God). The Comforter was sent to the world after Jesus ascended to heaven. "And I [Jesus] will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;..." John 14:16

So, yeah, as usual, you apparently have NO sound basis at all for your peculiar beliefs.

Where in the Bible I can read God Holy Spirit?
I follow only what is written I'm the Bible.
As the Holy Spirit is a being apart from God the Father and Jesus Christ, why we cannot find a word that the Holy Spirit has spoken to God Jehovah or Jesus Christ or both?
He is a god in your teaching. But we that don't believe in nothing that we can't find in the scripture, don't believe what man says.
Show us where we can read that god holy spirit of yours has speaking with God or Jesus?
We want to see Scriptures and verses.

When I finished, body, soul and spirit. I am going to finished, who or what is the Holy Spirit?

Can you not read & understand properly??

"And I [Jesus] will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;..." John 14:16

"Mark 13:11 specifically refers to the power of the Holy Spirit to act and speak through the disciples of Jesus in time of need: "Be not anxious beforehand what ye shall speak: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye; for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Spirit." Matthew 10:20"

The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Truth! He comforts & speaks to believers. See above ^^. "How does God speak through the Holy Spirit? He also speaks to us through the glory of His creation. Additionally, He speaks to us through His Holy Spirit and through dreams, visions and our thoughts. Further, God will use events and circumstances to speak with us. More often than not, God uses the people He has placed in our lives to speak to us."

The Bible doesn't have to provide us with details about The Holy Spirit talking with The Father or Jesus. You are attempting to create a false requirement. There is more than enough information in The Bible to KNOW that the Holy Spirit exists. Stop being obtuse.

Let me write a little about the comforter here.
You people are so deeply hypnotized that you don't even go read on my page and proof me where I'm wrong Biblical. I know that you are just to trying to find any error!! But I used only what the Bible teach.

Now, just a little of the comforter. When I finished the BIBLICAL true of the salvation of open minded person.

THE COMFORTER

Nearly all denominations teach only the first part of the promise of the Comforter, which is John 14:16-17. But what does the full promise of John 14:16-23 say about who our Comforter is? Our Lord Jesus Christ expressly said that He Himself would come to us (John 14:18) and be in us (John 14:20), for He would manifest Himself to us (John 14:21-22). See the full promise for yourself:

John 14:16-23 ...'And I will pray the Father, and He shall give you another Comforter, that He may abide with you for ever; even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be with you. I WILL NOT LEAVE YOU COMFORTLESS: I WILL COME TO YOU. ....
So!! Take a look what the Bible teach!! A completely opposite of your false Trinity doctrine.

THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH

The Comforter will abide with you forever. (John 14:16)
The world cannot see the Spirit of truth, but ye know him. (John 14:17)
He shall be in you. (John 14:17)

CHRIST

I will not leave you comfortless, I will come to you and be with you always. (John 14:18) Matthew 28:20).
The world see me no more, but ye see me. (John 14:19)
I am in my Father and ye in me and I IN YOU. (John 14:20)

Christ - "I WILL MANIFEST MYSELF to you". (John 14:21-22.

So!! Do you see how to used the whole concept of the word of God?
The day that you STOP plucking verses here and there, and making your own fantasy teachings. Than God can used you to preached the Biblical truth.

Now from the Bible, who is the Comforter, another being that we don't know who he is? Or is he Jesus Christ Himself?

One thing I'm sure!! I have Jesus Christ in my body. So, my body is the temple of the HOLY SPIRIT. And now!! Show me where I'm wrong Biblical.

Wow are you confused! You are the one who is picking certain verses out of context, neglecting/ignoring other pertinent verses, not reading far enough, & then misrepresenting who the Holy Spirit is... Just Wow!

The Father & the Son (Jesus Christ) are not the exact same being--but they are of the same intent & purpose as Jesus did & does the will of The Father. Here's Biblical proof:
"Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works." Joh 14:11 KJV
"...I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you." Joh 14:20 KJV
"...I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I." Joh 14:28 KJV

The Holy Spirit is ANOTHER (different) Comforter--NOT Jesus. Here is the Biblical proof:
"I will pray the Father, and he shall give you **another** Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;" Joh 14:16 KJV
"But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you." Joh 14:26 KJV (In Jesus' name--but NOT Jesus).

When a person believes in Jesus properly s/he will be able to do as Jesus did because God/Jesus dwell in those who abide in God/Jesus Words:
"He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it." Joh 14:12-14 KJV

Here Jesus explains that His disciples ALREADY have the Spirit of Truth (Holy Spirit) in them--even before they were blessed fully with the Holy Spirit during the day of Pentecost:
"Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you." Joh 14:17 KJV

They knew the Spirit of Truth because they knew Jesus & He is God & represents God & has the Spirit of Truth in Himself & demonstrated it to them daily. That is how the Apostles knew the Spirit of Truth--they saw it in Jesus. Jesus also stated that He (Holy Spirit) dwelled with them & that it 'shall be' (future tense) in them (think the day of Pentecost).

Jesus is God incarnate & The Word & did & does the Will of God. The Holy Spirit is also God & does the will of God by speaking to believers, because He is also God. That is what you don't seem to comprehend--they are like 3 yolks inside one egg shell with 3 distinct roles/purposes for the same overall intents & purposes of God--as they are ALL God serving the will of God.

If the Holy Spirit is a God being, then why there is no record that he has spoken with God the Father and Jesus Christ the Son?

Show me in the Bible where I can read a conversation between those three gods?

Show me from your Bible, because I will show you again from my Bible, what your trinitarian Bible don't heave.

IS THE TRINITY DOCTRINE BIBLICAL?

Is the word "Trinity" found anywhere in the Bible? No, it is NOT. Is the phrase "God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit" in the Bible? No. So what does the Bible say?

THE FATHER: 'God the Father' 13 times; 'The most High God" 11 times; 'The Highest' 6 times; The only true God' 1 time.

JESUS CHRIST: 'Son of God' 48 times; 'only begotten' 6 times; God's 'Holy Child' 2 times; His 'firstborn' 4 times.

HOLY SPIRIT: 'Spirit of God' 26 times; 'God's Spirit' 9 times; 'Thy Spirit' 4 times; 'Spirit of your Father' 1 time; 'Spirit of Christ' 2 times.

TRINITARIAN: 'God the Holy Spirit' 0 times; 'God the Son' 0 times; 'God in three persons' 0 times; 'trinity' or triune God' 0 times.

This is just a little lesson for you to see that your trinity god is not mentioned in my Bible.

So show me from your Bible, chapters and verses, where I can read god holy spirit?

re: "m_leonora1111: If the Holy Spirit is a God being, then why there is no record that he has spoken with God the Father and Jesus Christ the Son?"

Because Jesus prayed to The Father--not to the Holy Spirit, which serves in a different role than The Father. The Holy Spirit was also intended to come to earth AFTER Jesus departed earth to heaven. There was no need to have such a dialog, as Jesus had already planned to pray to The Father to send the Comforter after His departure.

re: "Is the word "Trinity" found anywhere in the Bible? No, it is NOT."

It doesn't need to be in The Bible. We know that The Father, Son, & Holy Spirit exist. We can therefore refer them as The Trinity or Triune God, or anything else that makes sense about their unity.

re: "Is the phrase "God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit" in the Bible? No. So what does the Bible say?"

Yes, of course! Have you even read the whole Bible?? Or, do you just follow the misteachings of some cult some where? Sheesh!

"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost..." Mat 28:19 KJV

Holy Ghost & Holy Spirit refer to the same being:. Ghost = Germanic/old English & Spirit = Latin/French/middle English

Here's where you can see all of the Biblical references to the Holy Ghost
https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=Holy+Spirit&version=KJV%3BAMP%3BNASB%3BNLT

Zeffur: This is written for you and all the other people that doesn't follow what the Bible says.

You people are hypnotized by Satan priest, even if you read what the Bible support, you are keeping ignoring what Jesus and the whole writers in the Bible says.

Keep plucking verses here and there, to suit your wrong beliefs.

Listen what the same apostles said about yours teaching.

2 Thessalonians 2:8-12. Verse 11 Jesus has did it specifically for you all trinitarians. To all that cannot keep God's ten commandments and have the faith OF Jesus.

Revelation 12:17 and Revelation 14:12!! 😐😐

@m_leonora1111:

So you aren't intelligent or honest enough to accept the truth when looking right at it, huh? Pride is a terrible thing... It is you who is suffering from strong delusions, btw.

Anyway.. you can buy them books & send them to school, but you can't make them understand/learn when they refuse to do so...

Stop trying to teach YOUR confusions/lies to others--they are NOT Biblically sound at all & I have already proven it to you! You may fool some of the people some of the time, but you won't fool everyone. Let this online experience be a lesson for you!

Zeffur: Look what Paul has wrote for you all trinitarians, and are keeping the Sunday worship.

Galatians 1:1-10!!

When other people read from the Bible, everything that I have write. They can see that I am using Chapters and verses from the Bible.

But yours trinitarians theory is far away from the Bible. Only a miracle can open your eyes and mind.

A question: Did Jesus Christ dead on the cross has put an end to God's law? The 10 commandments?

re: " m_leonora1111: When other people read from the Bible, everything that I have write. They can see that I am using Chapters and verses from the Bible."

You have no doubt misled others, as you have tried & failed to mislead people in this forum. I have used Biblical book, chapter, verse, & sound reasoning to show you VERY clearly why you are WRONG & that you refuse to accept the truth that has been presented to you in print. That is a YOU problem that YOU need to get right with God!

re: "But yours trinitarians theory is far away from the Bible. Only a miracle can open your eyes and mind."

You cannot deceive me. You aren't that clever & I'm not that dumb. I implore you to repent & get right with God & stop trying to teach your false doctrine to others. The Bible is very clear that you are not being honest with yourself & with others!

Zeffur: Aslong that you accept that the trinitarian doctrine is not Biblical, then we don't have nothing to talk about.

All my questions, you didn't answered it all Biblical. I know that you cannot.

Again! Did Jesus dead on the cross has put an end to God His Father laws?

Do you deny that The Father, Son, & Holy Ghost/Spirit exist??

Only One God is Biblical. Only one son of God is Biblical. Only one spirit of God Is Biblical. Unless you know of another way of explaining ONE God in three persons. I don't know how you can consider yourself a follower of God's word?

@BS: Exactly!

Where in the Bible I can read three God's in one? Triune God, or Trinity?

Did Jesus tell us that they are three in one or they are two in one. And at least when we find the trinty that works together for salvation from the others people, that are looking for the true Jesus Christ.

We will find the true trinty here:
John 17. And it will sound like this, TWO GODHEAD and their church.

Not three gods in one, or triune or trinty gods.

The day you all trinitarians follow Jesus Christ and the apostles, then this choke will release from your neck.

Galatians 1:1-10.

My walking in Christian world is exactly what is written in the Bible.

I have ask a question, please trinitarians, answered my question.

Did Jesus Christ dead on the cross has put an end to His Father 10 Commandments?

Just yes or no.

M leon you're endlessly hooked on a simple doctrine that has been used for almost two thousand years to describe the Biblical dogma that Jesus is God the Son, God is God the Father, and the Holy Spirit is God the Spirit..

Unless you have a better explanation or word for One God in three persons . I don't know any way you can claim that it's not biblical .

Again Blackshoes!! Where in the Bible from 2000 years ago can I read the words God the Father, and God Jesus Christ, and God Holy Spirit. And they are three are 1?
I want to read it myself in the Bible, chapters and verses.

I know that Satan doesn't let go and read through my pages!! Why? Because a prophecy that the apostle Paul wrote has been completed. And this writer for you all that are taking and putting something, that even they self, if they can coming back and hear yours trinitarians teaching. They surely amaze and prefer go back without saying a word. Galatians 1:1-10. 2 Thessalonians 2:8-12!!

I have given you so many explanations, but your heart is still from stone. You have seen it in the Bible, and rejected the complete Bible truth.

What about Revelation 22:18-19? And read this first Revelation 1:2-3

Jesus is God the Son !

John 1:1 - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 1:14 - And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

John 10:30 - I and my Father are one.

Isaiah 9:6 - For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

John 20:28 - And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

John 8:58 - Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

There is only ONE God

1. Deuteronomy 4:35,39 — Unto thee it was shown, that thou mightest know that the LORD he is God; there is none else beside him. (39) Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that the LORD he is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else.

2. Deuteronomy 6:4 — Hear, O Israel: The LORD thy God is one LORD. [Note in Mark 12:28-34 how Jesus and a Jewish scribe he encountered understood this text.]

3. Deuteronomy32:39 — See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

4. 2 Samuel 7:22 — Wherefore thou art great, O LORD God; for there is none like thee, neither is there any God beside thee, according to all that we have heard with our ears.

5. 1 Kings 8:60 — That all the people of the earth may know that the LORD is God, and that there is none else.

6. 2 KINGS 5:15 — And he returned to the man of God, he and all his company, and came, and stood before him: and he said, Behold, now I know that there is no God in all the earth, but in Israel; now therefore, I pray thee, take a blessing of thy servant.

7. 2 Kings 19:15 — And Hezekiah prayed before the LORD, and said, O LORD God of Israel, which dwellest between the cherubims, thou art the God, even thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth; thou hast made heaven and earth.

8. 1 Chronicles 17:20 — O LORD, there is none like thee, neither is there any God beside thee, according to all that we have heard with our ears.

9. Nehemiah 9:6 — Thou, even thou, art LORD alone; thou has made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth, and all things that are therein, the seas, and all that is therein, and thou preservest them all; and the host of heaven worshippeth thee.

10. Psalm 18:31 — For who is God save the LORD? or who is a rock save our God?

11. Psalm 86:10 — For thou art great, and doest wondrous things: thou art God alone.

12. Isaiah 37:16,20 — O LORD of hosts, God of Israel, that dwellest between the cherubims, thou art the God, even thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth: thou has made heaven and earth. (20) Now therefore, O LORD our God, save us from his hand, that all the kingdoms of the earth may know that thou art the LORD, even thou only.

13. Isaiah43:10,11 — Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he:before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no savior.

14. Isaiah44:6,8 — Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.Fear ye not, neither be afraid; have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.

15. Isaiah 45:21 — Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time: who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Savior; there is none beside me.

16. Isaiah 46:9 — For I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me.

17. Hosea 13:4 — Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me; for there is no savior beside me.

18. Joel 2:27 — And ye shall know that I am in the midst of Israel, and that I am the LORD your God, and none else: and my people shall never be ashamed.

19. Zechariah 14:9 — And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.

20. Mark 12:29-34 —And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. And the second is like, namely this, thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these. And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he: And to love him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to love his neighbor as himself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices. And when Jesus saw that he answered discreetly, he said unto him, Thou art not far from the kingdom of God. And no man after that durst ask him any question.

21. John 17:3 — And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

22. Romans 3:30 — Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

23. 1 Corinthians 8:4-6 — As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, andthat there is none other God but one. For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

24. Galatians 3:20 — Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.

25. Ephesians 4:6 — One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

26. 1 Timothy 1:17 — Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.

27. 1 Timothy 2:5 — For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

28. James 2:19 — Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

The Hoy Spirit Is God the Spirit


John 14:26 - But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

John 16:13 - Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

Galatians 5:22-23 - But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, (Read More...)

1 Corinthians 2:10 - But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

Acts 2:38 - Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Acts 2:33 - Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.

John 14:15-17 15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

Galatians 1:12 - For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

Proverbs 2:1-5 - 1 My son, if thou wilt receive my words, and hide my commandments with thee;

2 So that thou incline thine ear unto wisdom, and apply thine heart to understanding;

3 Yea, if thou criest after knowledge, and liftest up thy voice for understanding;

4 If thou seekest her as silver, and searchest for her as for hid treasures;

5 Then shalt thou understand the fear of the LORD, and find the knowledge of God.

2 Timothy 1:7 - For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

1 Corinthians 6:19 - What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

John 15:15 - Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.

m_leonora1111 is still babbling without any understanding. It's just sad at this point...

BS, you are wasting your time with that one. He's got a fixation on the term Trinity as a reference to the various aspects of God. He ignores the truth of the scriptures that clearly point out that he is WRONG.

Zeffur: I ignore everything that isn't in the Bible, Trinity - Trio - Three God's - Three Gods in one - Triune God - God THE Son - God Holy Spirit - secret rapture - pre-tribulation - mid-tribulation, any many more that isn't written in the Bible.

And you are calling this Roman Catholic Church, God church? This people, the popes that declared themselves God on earth!! 🤔🤔!! Listen to the name that they have given themselves!

Vicarius Filii Dei! Do you know what this name means? I think NOT!!

Everything that is not written in the Bible. I am keep writing everything here, specifically for this false Trinity doctrine.

God said: "My people perish for a lack of knowledge!!". Your God is the pope Francis. You all are calling him holy father. Yes!! Sure he is yours god!!

Actually, it's very clear that you ignore everything in The Bible that doesn't conform to your cultish beliefs....

Do The Father, Son, & Holy Ghost/Spirit exist??

If not, then how do you reconcile your believe with the following verse?

"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost..." Mat 28:19 KJV

If so, then why are you so against the reality that there are 3 distinct entities that are one God in intent & purpose??

Zeffur: I hope this time, you can understand what the true meaning of the scriptures really are.

I hope that you will take your time and read it with only your Bible. Move the barrier between your mind and eyes!!