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m_leonora1111
m_leonora1111: My friend, God has repent many times.
Go read again your Bible. Start by Genesis.
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zeffur
zeffur: God has reconsidered unleashing His wrath against sinners for a time--but, He usually allows such wrath to occur eventually--& in the end that is exactly what will happen. Read the book of Revelation & you will see...
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m_leonora1111
m_leonora1111: You speak about Revelation. Don't you have seen what is written in chapter 1? God is very angry 😠 to people that worship idols like Mary mother of Jesus Christ.
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zeffur
zeffur: Who worships Mary as a God?? No one to my knowledge. Even Catholics just have a healthy regard for her--not idol worship her as God or a god. Their hail Mary prayer just asks her to pray for sinners during their lives & when they die because she was highly favored by God to carry & care for Jesus Christ.

Do you not know what idol worship actually is? Idol worship is to worship an idol as a God. Mary is not God & no one worships her as a god. Do you know anyone who worships Mary as God?? I highly doubt it.

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m_leonora1111
m_leonora1111: Asking any dead person that are in their Graves, to ask God something for you. Is worshipping that person. Hail is the same as worship.


Mary is dead in her grave, so she cannot speak to God till she wake up from dead. Go read Exodus 20:1-5.

Nobody has an own spirit flowing in their body. When you die, you will remain unexcisting.

Making images of a dead person and kneels before them, and talk to them, and pray to them, is against God.
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zeffur
zeffur: No it isn't. "Hail" is just calling for attention--like hailing a cab. It isn't worshiping in any way at all. Catholics believe Mary has already been resurrected, so in their thinking you are wrong.

"Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord: (For we walk by faith, not by sight We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord." 2 Cor 5:6-8 KJV
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m_leonora1111
m_leonora1111: Their thinking is not Biblical. And if we keep let them in their wrong beliefs, then we are the same with them. Do you believe that Mary is alive?
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zeffur
zeffur: Says you.. You aren't God. Here's what The Bible specifies:
"Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord: (For we walk by faith, not by sight We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord." 2 Cor 5:6-8 KJV
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zeffur
zeffur: As you can see below, no one bows to nor serves any idol of Mary as a god. They just ask her to pray for them. That's not idol worship or serving any false God or god. Your belief is without any sound basis.

"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God,..." Exo 20:4-5 KJV
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zeffur
zeffur: You can also see in the following verse that after Jesus was resurrected, others were resurrected:

"And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many." Mat 27:52-53 KJV
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m_leonora1111
m_leonora1111: Yes! I am agree, but they are as the first fruit for us to see, what it would be like when Jesus return for the second time.

Those people was resurrected after Jesus has wake up from the dead. And when Jesus Christ ascended to heaven, the people didn't see the one's that has resurrected anymore.

So they are in heaven living in an immortal body, and worshipping God in heaven. They have nothing to do with this world anymore. And we cannot ask them nothing for God to do for us.

Jesus Christ said that He is the only way to His Father. That's why we prayed in the name of "Jesus"
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zeffur
zeffur: I was raised Catholic, but, I don't follow Catholic rituals & I don't have any Catholic objects as I don't believe that I need such things. I don't pray to Mary or to any saints either, as they are not God.

As to whether Mary has been resurrected or not---I see no Biblical verse/s that clearly shows either way. Some people believe 2 Cor 5:6-8 implies we are immediately with the Lord after death. NDEs & OOBs also indicate that people have seen Jesus & been to heaven & to hell.
So, if those people aren't lying, & there are many of them, it's pretty clear that human Spirits can depart their bodies & go to heaven/hell after they have died.

There is also Biblically sound reason to believe that the spirits of some people who die will remain asleep until resurrection day. On resurrection day those who have yet to be resurrected will be resurrected (including those who are alive at that time). Those who are born again & have the seal of the Holy Spirit will be returned to God for eternal life in Heaven & those that are not born again will be sent to hell for eternal damnation.
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zeffur
zeffur: Posted elsewhere:

zeffur: re: "TiU: The people who believe in an omnipotent and omnibenevolent god have to resolve the problem of evil and so far nobody has. This is very bad for these theists because it is a knock down argument against their view."

More ^^ delusions. I have already thoroughly addressed this question. What we see above is the dishonesty of another atheidiot who 1. fails to comprehend properly, & 2. ignores it because he doesn't understand it & because he doesn't want to accept it.

1. God is perfect & Sovereign. He doesn't owe ANYONE any explanations. We are subjects in a system that He created (utopia initially & a fallen world after disobedience)

2. God does whatever He wants for whatever reasons that He wants. He doesn't have to explain them to anyone & He doesn't care about anyone else's opinion of the systems that He has created.

3. The evil in the world is a direct result of the disobedience of Adam & Eve & it will continue until God puts an end to it. This means their disobedience caused God to remove His perfection from the world to allow humanity to experience for a time the full extent of good & evil to acquire that knowledge & to weigh it against the utopia that only God can create for them.

4. God has created a pathway for humanity to be reconciled to Him in a new utopia via Jesus Christ. Those that are wise enough to understand & follow it will be saved & have eternal life in God's Kingdom. Those that are unwise & defiant will be forsaken.

This isn't complicated. God can be perfect in his goodness to humanity & be perfect in his justified wrath.
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m_leonora1111
m_leonora1111: Okay, now I can understand you better.

If you are really searching for the truth, then just follow only what the Bible teach.

First of all, nobody have an own spirit, that are floating around in their body.

Matthew 12:43-45.

There is only two kind of spirit that can entered a human body. The Holy Spirit, or demons.

Now let me prove something to you that maybe can open your mind.

This is special for you!!

What is Man Exactly? How Was He Created by God?

Genesis 2:7 (NKJV) ... 'And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the BREATH OF LIFE; and man BECAME a living BEING.'

Genesis 2:7 (KJV) ...'And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man BECAME a living SOUL.'

As we can see here, a "living being and a "living soul" are the same exact thing. Also in this very verse is the entire equation of life. And did you notice the word "BECAME", instead of "WAS GIVEN"? VERY important point! So let's look at the equation of life:

Dust of the ground (Body) + The breath of life (Spirit) = A living being (Soul/Man)

If you didn't understand it yet, I will write more for you. And if you are interested in the Biblical truth, I will give you our side, so that you don't need nobody to show you what to believe.

We must only let Jesus Christ and His Apostles (the Bible) to be as our guidance.
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zeffur
zeffur: re: "m_leonora1111: There is only two kind of spirit that can entered a human body. The Holy Spirit, or demons"

That ^^ is not quite correct. A person is born with a soul & spirit that is from God--not satan as satan has no such power. When an evil spirit occupies a person, that person contains BOTH spirits. We know this because Jesus cast out evil spirits & the indwelling spirit was then present.

re: "Soul vs Being"

You quoted the same verse that was translated by different people with slightly different understanding of the original word. "Being" just means existing continuously--it does not mean life or spirit, specifically. Anything that continues to exist is technically being in the most general sense. A being that is alive is a "living being". The real question that you haven't properly addressed is: What are the differences between the body, soul, & spirit?
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The body = the material part of a being (whether dead or alive) that can become alive & contain 1 or more spirits (good or bad/evil).

The soul = "the breath of life"--the force/spark that energized a being to become a living/animated being. Some believe it is also related to mind, emotions, etc.

The spirit = the unique force/entity from God that can occupy & control a body & exhibits a personality & will. It starts out perfect, but due to free will, it can become impure/corrupted. It can also be born again, resurrected, & saved by God.
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Here are some useful verses on the topic:

β€œNow may the God of peace himself sanctify you completely, and may your whole spirit and soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.” 1 The 5:23

That verse uses the word β€œand,” which in Greek means to differ from each other. That clearly means that each part is different & serves a different function in a being.

"For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart." Heb 4:12

That verse shows that God's Word is living, active, & capable of dividing the soul from spirit & thoughts from intentions.

"Mary said, My soul doth magnify (or glorifies) the Lord, And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour. Luk 1:46-47

That verse essentially means that Mary's soul proves the Glory of God, as no other being can originate LIFE as God has done. Mary's born again Spirit rejoices in God/Jesus Christ.

"Behold, all souls are mine; the soul of the father as well as the soul of the son is mine: the soul who sins shall die." Eze 18:4

That verse is God's claim to ownership of ALL life. No other person has any right to take what is God's. All who sin shall die (which we obviously know all humans will die)--even those living who will be resurrected on resurrection day will lose the life of their soul & be transformed into a new incorruptible Spiritual being, who will be taken to Heaven to have eternal life with God.

"And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all." Rev 18:14

That verse indicates the soul & the emotion of lust are related.

"And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years." Rev 20:4 KJV

That verse indicates that souls were given life to reign with Christ for 1k years.

So, the division between the spirit & the soul isn't perfectly clear, but we have a pretty good idea that the soul can die & be brought back to life & the spirit is eternal.
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m_leonora1111
m_leonora1111: Zeffur! Did you have understand Matthew 12:43-45? I think not!!

Jesus Christ was talking there. What about Lazarus that was 4 days in the tomb?

Did Jesus says after His praying: 'Spirit of Lazarus come down and enter the dead body of Lazarus? Or did Jesus turn His face to the tomb, and said Lazarus COME OUT'!!

Let me write a little more BIBLICAL evidence that nobody has an own spirit.

Before you read the Biblical truth, go and read Ezekiel 37:1-14.
This statement is written in the future when Jesus return now for the second time.

The Modern Christian Theory

What is mostly taught today is that God created man and placed a spirit "being" inside of him. Additionally, it is taught that man also has a "soul" floating around inside of him, which will eventually "float off to heaven or hell".

Whoa, let me make an immediate STOP right there!

There is already a major problem with this theory. If most believe that we have a "spirit" inside of us, then why is it believe that we also have a "soul" too? Are we to believe the spirit and soul are the same thing? Are there TWO beings trapped inside of us?

At this point I have given you the Biblical support. But your mind is still blocked by this false teaching.

Look more. Used only your Bible.

Now doesn't the equation of life make a lot of sense? The problem is that the Bible truth already conflict with the modern theory that a person has a SEPARATE, IMMORTAL spirit/or soul/or both inside of him. We see that man before coming to live was merely dust of the ground - a breathless lifeless body. It was the breath of life from God that brought Adam to life, making him a living SOUL. That is the important point to gain from this. Adam wasn't "GIVEN" a soul. Adam BECAME a living SOUL with the breath (spirit) of God inside of him.

Need more evidence!!
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zeffur
zeffur: re: "m_leonora1111: Zeffur! Did you have understand Matthew 12:43-45? I think not!!"

I did in fact understand that verse. You, unfortunately, do not appear to understand it.

When the word 'empty' is used in that verse, it does not mean that there is no Spirit there--it means the evil spirit found no other evil spirits there & there was room for it & other evil spirits to occupy that body.

Consider this... "So the devils besought him, saying, If thou cast us out, suffer us to go away into the herd of swine." Mat 8:31 KJV

God creates all spirits & gives life to all bodies until He decides otherwise, but demonic spirits have no physical bodies & they seek to find & possess physical bodies. We see above that they know that Jesus has the power to cast them out of the 2 male human bodies that they possessed, so they beg Jesus to cast them out into the bodies of the pigs. Once that happened, the God-given spirit of the possessed people are present again--which means both spirits were within the human bodies. If you believe otherwise, then where did the God given spirits of the 2 men reside when they were possessed by demonic spirits? Obviously, multiple spirits can possess a human body as we see from Mat 12:45 "Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first." KJV

re: "Jesus Christ was talking there. What about Lazarus that was 4 days in the tomb?"

Jesus said that Lazarus was asleep--which meant his spirit was still within his body.
"Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep." Joh 11:11 KJV

re: "Did Jesus says after His praying: 'Spirit of Lazarus come down and enter the dead body of Lazarus? Or did Jesus turn His face to the tomb, and said Lazarus COME OUT'!!"

Let's take a look, shall we?? "Then said Martha unto Jesus, Lord, if thou hadst been here, my brother had not died. But I know, that even now, whatsoever thou wilt ask of God, God will give it thee. Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again. Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day. Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:" John 11:21-25

What we see there is that God will give to Jesus whatever Jesus asks for. We also see that Jesus is the resurrection & the life & anyone who believes in Him shall live. Lazarus believed in Jesus & Jesus restored life to Lazarus so that he would live & rise again. When Lazarus died, his life force was lost, but his spirit remained asleep. Jesus restored that breath of life by calling Lazarus to come forth.

re: "Let me write a little more BIBLICAL evidence that nobody has an own spirit."

That ^^ is an error. God provides/gives a Spirit & soul/life to all beings who He creates when they are created. We see above that life departs a being at death & the believing spirit can be asleep until resurrected back to life by God.

re: "Before you read the Biblical truth, go and read Ezekiel 37:1-14."

We see here "The hand of the Lord was upon me, and carried me out in the spirit of the Lord, and set me down in the midst of the valley which was full of bones" Eze 37:1, that the spirit of a man (Ezekiel) can exist outside his body & be restored to his body during his lifetime.

We also see here: "Again he said unto me, Prophesy upon these bones, and say unto them, O ye dry bones, hear the word of the Lord. Thus saith the Lord God unto these bones; Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live" Ezekiel 37:4-5 KJV, that God can restore the breath of life to the bones of dead Jews to cause them to become alive again.

We then see here: "Then said he unto me, Prophesy unto the wind, prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind, Thus saith the Lord God; Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live. So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army. Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel:" Eze 37:9-11, that God uses the wind to restore the breath of life back to the restored bodies of the Jews because the body alone is not alive.

We then see here: "Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel. And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves, And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live..." Eze 37:12-14, that God resurrects their bodies from their graves & provides/puts His Spirit in them so that they shall live again. So, from all of this, we can see that God has the power to resurrect & restore life & to provide His spirit to those that have died.

re: "The Modern Christian Theory: What is mostly taught today is that God created man and placed a spirit "being" inside of him. Additionally, it is taught that man also has a "soul" floating around inside of him, which will eventually "float off to heaven or hell". Whoa, let me make an immediate STOP right there! There is already a major problem with this theory. If most believe that we have a "spirit" inside of us, then why is it believe that we also have a "soul" too? Are we to believe the spirit and soul are the same thing? Are there TWO beings trapped inside of us?"

No, we are to understand that there are differences between the body, spirit, & soul--just as I pointed out in my last post. If the spirit & soul were the same things then there would be no need for 2 different words. The soul is the breath of life--the spirit is not the breath of life.

re: "At this point I have given you the Biblical support. But your mind is still blocked by this false teaching."

Actually, you have provided your 'opinion' about what you have partially incorrectly understood. Though not completely well understood, there are differences between the spirit & the soul. You just don't seem to comprehend, or you refuse to accept that obvious fact.

re: "Look more. Used only your Bible. Now doesn't the equation of life make a lot of sense?"

No, not really. You've failed to properly understand the differences between the spirit & soul--which is what I specifically pointed out in my previous post. You seem to be confused that the spirit & the soul are the same things--when in fact they are different things.

re: "The problem is that the Bible truth already conflict with the modern theory that a person has a SEPARATE, IMMORTAL spirit/or soul/or both inside of him. We see that man before coming to live was merely dust of the ground - a breathless lifeless body."

That ^^ is untrue. Babies for example are not formed as Adam & Eve were formed. Adam was formed uniquely from the dust of the earth + the breath of life + the Spirit that God that God provided for him. Eve was also uniquely formed from Adam's rib (which we have not been specifically provided with exactly how God made her--we were only informed that Adam was put to sleep, a rib was removed from him, & Eve was made from that rib). And all other humans are made via procreation--in which they are grown within a female host that God provides a spirit to before birth. The spark of life is also obtained from the seed of both parents.

re: "It was the breath of life from God that brought Adam to life, making him a living SOUL. That is the important point to gain from this."

Actually, the soul is the life part of a human.

re: "Adam wasn't "GIVEN" a soul. Adam BECAME a living SOUL with the breath (spirit) of God inside of him."

You are playing semantics with your opinion. The actual verse is "And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." Gen 2:7 From this verse we can understand that the breath of life that God breathed into the nostrils of Adam (which was a gift from God as God didn't take it back--it was meant for & provide to Adam) caused life to exist in Adam--which is what the soul is--the life in a person.

re: "Need more evidence!!"

Read above--I've provided more evidence & sound reasoning for you to understand properly.
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m_leonora1111
m_leonora1111: Are you the one that says, what is written in the Bible is NOT what it means? Are you saying that Jesus are putting His followers in doubt? Are you saying that everything in the Bible is a parable? It doesn't mean what it says?

Let's go to some chapters and verses.

What Jesus has said in Matthew 5:17-18, did Jesus doesn't mean what He says?

Are you telling me that the Bible doesn't mean what is written in it?

Sorry!! I think that you are so deeply hypnosis that your eyes and mind cannot open, to just to follow only what is written in the Bible. So sad my friend!!

When God said in Exodus 20:8. "REMEMBER" my Sabbath, and keep it Holy. The seventh day of the week, Saturday.
Did God doesn't mean the Saturday but the Sunday?

If you continue to try to find something to defend your man teachings. We don't have nothing to talk about anymore.
Because even if you have read it in the Bible, you are ignoring everything that the Bible teach.
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zeffur
zeffur: You are wrong & not honest to admit it. I used Biblical verses to explain everything to you that you are confused about. Now that you know it, you still reject it. That's a YOU problem, not a me problem.

May God open your eyes to properly understand.

Take care.
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m_leonora1111
m_leonora1111: Everything that you have shown me doesn't says that we have our own soul or spirit.

The problem is that you cannot understand even what the Bible says.

What about Luke 16:22-31?

In this parable, did Jesus says that the spirit of Lazarus was in heaven, and the rich man his spirit was in hell? No, it says: go read it again.

I'm sure that you didn't have go read the chapters and the verses that I have give you. And neither you are going to read this one to!! πŸ™„ So sad 😞 πŸ˜” 😟 πŸ™ πŸ˜₯!!
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zeffur
zeffur: I've read the whole Bible. I'm not going to argue with you. You are making some erroneous assumptions. Reread everything that I've previously posted to fully understand properly. If you don't want to do that, then you are on your own.

Here's an excellent teaching on the things that you obviously don't understand:
(While I don't agree with everything he stated, he did a very good job of covering many related topics (e.g. the body, soul, spirit, immortality, etc.)


Here is another useful aid in helping you to understand better:

"The Bible teaches that we consist of body, soul and spirit: "May your whole spirit, soul and body be preserved blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus" (I Thessalonians 5:23). Our material bodies are evident, but our souls and spirits are less distinguishable.

In the preceding passage, the Greek word for soul is psuche. This word implies our mind, will and desires as seen in our personal preferences, choices, and emotional responses to life's situations. Our soul is reflected in our personality.

The Greek word for spirit is pneuma. It refers to the part of man that connects and communicates with God. Our spirit differs from our soul because our spirit is always pointed toward and exists exclusively for God, whereas our soul can be self-centered. The joy, comfort and peace of God's presence can only be experienced through our spirit.

While everyone's soul is fully active, not everyone's spirit is, because when Adam fell the spirit died and was separated from God. Only in Christ is the spirit reconnected and reconciled: "At one time you were separated from God. But now Christ has made you God's friends again ... by his death ... " (Colossians 1:21-22)."
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m_leonora1111
m_leonora1111: Even that you are an English speaking person, you cannot understand English.

Where in the Bible I can read that when you die, that your spirit go to heaven or hell.

And if it so, then answer me my questions. Because you are following man teachings inplace of the teachings of Jesus Christ and the apostles.

Question 1. Elijah and Moses, are they a spirit being in heaven?
Question 2. Jesus Christ, is He now a spirit being in heaven?
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zeffur
zeffur: I think there is a language barrier problem here. I don't think you are able to properly understand the English that I used.

Did you watch the video??
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Blackshoes
Blackshoes:
RE:Where in the Bible I can read that when you die, that your spirit go to heaven or hell.


1 Thessalonians 4:13-18

13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.

14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.


Ecclesiastes 12:7

Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.


Daniel 12:2

And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

Ezekiel 18:4

Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.

2 Corinthians 5:10

For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

Romans 2:6-8

6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:

7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:

8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,

Ecclesiastes 9:5

For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

1 Corinthians 15:51 - Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

John 11:25 - Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

John 5:24 -

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

Romans 6:23

For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Matthew 10:28

And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Revelation 21:4

And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

Revelation 20:15

And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

John 6:50-71 50

This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die.

51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

52 The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat?

53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.

54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.

56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.

57 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.

58 This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.

59 These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum.

60 Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?

61 When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you?

62 What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?

63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

64 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.

65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.

66 From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.

67 Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?

68 Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.

69 And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.

70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?

71 He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve.

Psalms 146:4

His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.

Hebrews 9:27

And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

Genesis 3:19

In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

Revelation 20:14

And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
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m_leonora1111: Blackshoes: All These verses don't speak about your spirit. I have write what means spirit, soul, and body.

Aslong that you cannot understand that the word spirit in human body, is the Spirit of God. And the Spirit of God means here! The breath of God.

Go read it again or do I have to write it down completely? I'm sure if I write it down, you don't go read it.

I have ask a question. Is Elijah and Moses spirit in heaven or with their body?
Do Jesus Christ have a body in heaven or is He a spirit now in heaven?
Answered my question.
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