The Genesis accounts and science ImAMoron: It's all too often I sit reading people explaining the events described in Genesis, taking creationist and literalist approaches, yet some of the most well known Rabbis seem to caution against that approach of creationism and literalism, instead calling for the text to be properly understood using science and scientific inquiry The Guide for the Perplexed - Rambam, circa 1300 This is pretty counter to what I see, in fact merely suggesting that Genesis and science have anything to do with each other is usually rejected by believers and non-believers equally Why would this be ? ImAMoron: Lmao, I guess among all these knowitalls in these chats, nobody actually knows what would have constituted science in the era Rambam is referring to Arias ?.....Jaguar .....witchdevil.....shadowslacker.........the list of cowards and dilettantes is rather extensive Must be comfortable sitting in chat making smartass remarks, but also convenient to avoid real discourse  (Post deleted by ImAMoron ) (Post deleted by ImAMoron ) ImAMoron: yup, here we go isaacnd200's Picture get back to me when you have any clue about what was considered science when the Torah appeared You have about 10 or so years of study if you want to catch up with me E s s e n c e: Nah, I just find amusing you had the need to mention me, you lack any communication skills for me to engage in a smart conversation with you. Nonetheless thanks for your expectations. ImAMoron: oh, well, you seem not to be able to handle the topic, so here is my response to you, ma'am The first time I stated in chat that Hebrew and Greek take their numerical structure from Egyptian Hieratic, you gave me a " crazy badge " That's how uneducated you are, deciding to label me as " crazy " for something that's well-known by language historians so, in short, blow it out your ass If you make any more responses that are off-topic I'll delete those too, flake ImAMoron: I'd suggest you start with the standardization of metrology under Naram-Sin in 2150 BC, if you want to understand what Maimonides says about using science to interpret Genesis en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Mesopotamian_units_of_measurement and that's before you even attempt to delve into Egyptian metrology or math or attempting to learn Hieratic, that would require you to at least learn a few problems from the Rhind papyrus Maybe try familiarizing yourself with the work of someone like Otto Neugebauer or Jens Hoyrup, for starters ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alternately, if the rigorous academic stuff is too much for you- you could compose a response addressing the major difference between Rambam and Ramban when it comes to the interpretation of Genesis, and ask something like " What makes Rambam's advice have any more gravitas than Ramban's, specifically ? " or even " why are both of them not a little right at the same time ? " That's something that's rational and worth responding to with a thought out post That's how I would have offered a counter to what is stated in the OP ImAMoron: Here's a link to Rambam's text, if you actually care to read it A Guide for the Perplexed - Moses Maimonides https://oll4.libertyfund.org/title/friedlaender-a-guide-for-the-perplexed  (Post deleted by ImAMoron ) (Post deleted by ImAMoron ) ImAMoron: I see a comment from someone who thinks he's educated isaacnd200's Picture Let's see this crafty defense of your statements, " theismisuntenable " Please explain why you would be an authority on Biblical exegesis, over someone like Maimonides  ImAMoron: harpalycus47 you are more than welcome to attempt to bullshit your way through a discussion on what was considered science in the antiquities lets see it (Post deleted by ImAMoron ) | Religion Chat Room 21 People Chatting Similar Conversations |