Saul David Solomon and the Trinity Apokalupto: The Trinity foreshadowed by Saul, David, Solomon The Trinity foreshadowed by Abraham, Isaac, Jacob. Topic: Religion Jesus taught that there is one God in three persons. Anything more than "one God" in three persons is heretical and outside of the confines of Jesus teaching, scripture and this thread. Apokalupto: Saul, David, Solomon: Saul= 1st King of Israel, forerunner, “father” of the kings of Israel David= suffering triumphant servant, Gods son Solomon=increase of children/multiplying of seed, "holy spirit being poured out" Saul- asked for David – Beloved/ flowing (i.e. sick or diseased) Solomon – peace Let me park it on Davids name for a moment. Meaning: Beloved Weak, Flowing Etymology From the noun דוד (dod), beloved. From the verb דוה (dawa), to flow with disease. דוה, is used in Leviticus 20:18 to refer to menstruation flow. & in Deuteronomy 28:60 “diseases of Egypt” This is interesting because Matthew 8:17 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, Himself took our infirmities, and bare [our] sicknesses. The connection of Davids name with the job that Christ would undertake is a microcosm of the symbolism. This was not a novel thought about the Christ Babylonian Talmud Sanhedrin 98b In a discussion about the name of the Christ it was said: The leper of the house of Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi is his name, as it is stated: “Indeed our illnesses he did bear and our pains he endured; yet we did esteem him injured, stricken by God, and afflicted” (Isaiah 53:4). https://www.sefaria.org/Sanhedrin.98b.14?lang=bi&with=all&lang2=en\ This is proof of nothing other than the fact that it was no novel thought that this is what Christ would do. And instead of detailing Davids life which is a big great portrait of a suffering fellow and an unrecognized king like Jesus, I have decided to go with the shorter etymological side of his sufferings. David would represent the Son in the Trinity. Saul as the Father, David the suffering servant, son of God And Solomon as the Holy Spirit. 1 Kings 11:1 Solomon loved many foreign woman 1Kings 11:3 and he had 700 wives and 300 concubines. This is a symbol of the children of God being multiplied. The foreign wives he had children with are a symbol that the Holy Spirit would come upon the nations/gentiles. Here is Holy Spirit. Joel 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: (Solomon, like Jacob, who multiplied his seed was symbolic of the Spirit multiplying spiritual children unto God) Joel 2:29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit. Joel 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call. John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name: John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved and are born again by the Holy Spirit, which has for 2000 years multiplied the children of God through His spirit.  DontNeedChrist: Is the trinity foreshadowed by Abraham, Isaac and Jacob or Saul, David and Solomon? Make up your mind. There is NO trinity foreshadowed in the Tanach anywhere. Leave it be and focus on your Greek text. DontNeedChrist: Here is true foreshadowing from the Torah regarding all that you spout: Deuteronomy 13:2 — “If there arise in the midst of thee a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams—and he give thee a sign or a wonder, 13:3 and the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spoke unto thee—saying: ‘Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them...” Deuteronomy 13:4 — “...thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or unto that dreamer of dreams; for the Lord your G-d putteth you to proof, to know whether ye do love the Lord your G-d with all your heart and with all your soul.” Deuteronomy 13:6 — “And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken perversion against the Lord your G-d...” This is jesus fit to a tee. We were warned about men like him and therefore rejected him as instructed. He met his fate just as Hashem "foreshadowed." DontNeedChrist: Another unnecessary comment and also a deflection of the topic. I wouldn't expect anything else though.  Precious Pea: How about YOU go focus on our own topics on your own threads DNC = dummest nin-compoop "nincompoop" this noun is an unusual way to say "a foolish or stupid person," This TOPIC isn't about YOU DNC lol  this thread is about JESUS lolXp started the TOPIC not you (Edited by Precious Pea) DontNeedChrist:
All these "trinity" posts are nothing more than an attempt to stir up controversy especially with Jewish people on Wire. The author likes to throw things against the wall to see what sticks and then abandons his own posts. Our responses are nothing more than fuel for these trolls. He may think it's amusing but it's actually quite pathetic. Nothing to see here.  Fractured fairy tale: Dnc , Shore your not doing that Exact Same thing In reverse , With the Username you have Picked , When some one Tries to reason with you , You Cry fowl and go Antisemite  (Post deleted by staff ) Precious Pea: @poetry123 You use the word as a weapon, which is unrighteous lol  you use the word to condemn. I can USE the Word too in the same mannerPsa 7:16 His mischief shall return upon his own head, and his violent dealing shall come down upon his own pate. What you quoted IS not even correct, you've unrightly divided the Word of God and even changed it lol  bearing false witnessThis is what God says about people like yourself...... Pro 14:5 A faithful witness will not lie: but a false witness will utter lies. Pro 19:5 A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies shall not escape. Pro 25:18 A man that beareth false witness against his neighbour is a maul, and a sword, and a sharp arrow. Mat 15:19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: Precious Pea: @poetry123 You should read the CONTEXT instead of cherry picking, making yourself look foolish  Psa 7:9 Oh let the wickedness of the wicked come to an end; but establish the just: for the righteous God trieth the hearts and reins. Psa 7:10 My defence is of God, which saveth the upright in heart. Psa 7:11 God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day. Psa 7:12 If he turn not, he will whet his sword; he hath bent his bow, and made it ready. Psa 7:13 He hath also prepared for him the instruments of death; he ordaineth his arrows against the persecutors. Psa 7:14 Behold, he travaileth with iniquity, and hath conceived mischief, and brought forth falsehood. Psa 7:15 He made a pit, and digged it, and is fallen into the ditch which he made. Psa 7:16 His mischief shall return upon his own head, and his violent dealing shall come down upon his own pate. TOOLS Psa 7:17 I will praise the LORD according to his righteousness: and will sing praise to the name of the LORD most high. Apokalupto: Matthew 7:6 I urge Christians not to waste their time with people like this. Leave them alone. It's already been explained and dismissed. Talk to people who are interested, don't throw away your pearls. Have a nice day. (Edited by Apokalupto)  amoregrowers: I absolutely love your new profile pic. The Menorah is the oldest symbol . You also showed how each candle represents the 7 spirits/powers/forces. Good one. Glad to see you step toward hebrew. It will elevate your knowledge and give you fresh insight into the bible and hopefully give you the meat your zeal craves. You also quoted revelation. I would like to give you another opinion of it. Its a good read http://www.13petals.org/ntcommentaries/revelation-2/ DontNeedChrist: MATTHEW 7:6 “Do not give what is holy to the DOGS; nor cast your pearls before SWINE, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces." - KJV Convenient the OP omits the anti-semitic terminology of the NT verse. "I urge Christians not to waste their time with people like this." - AA aka XP "People like this." People who call out christians who misrepresent Torah/Tanach and crowbar their trinity dogma where it never existed. As I said before, whenever I see Hebrew scriptures maligned like this it will be called out. There is no reference to any trinity in the Torah. Stating groups of three people in the Torah are a "foreshadowing" of the christian godhead is deceiving and desperate. Next it will be Larry, Moe and Curly when they've exhausted threes in the Torah. Go ahead and delete this post. | Religion Chat Room 29 People Chatting Similar Conversations |
