LIES ABOUT THE TALMUD (Page 6)

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DontNeedChrist:
THE CLAIM:
A Jew is allowed to break Shabbat to save the life of another Jew, but not to save the life of a non-Jew.

THE TALMUD TEXT:
"Similarly, with regard to one upon whom a rockslide fell, and there is uncertainty whether he is there under the debris or whether he is not there; and there is uncertainty whether he is still alive or whether he is dead; and there is uncertainty whether the person under the debris is a gentile or whether he is a Jew, one clears the pile from atop him. One may perform any action necessary to rescue him from beneath the debris. If they found him alive after beginning to clear the debris, they continue to clear the pile until they can extricate him. And if they found him dead, they should leave him, since one may not desecrate Shabbat to preserve the dignity of the dead." - Mishna, Yoma 83a

THE SUMMARY:
Nowhere in that tractate does it state that Jews are to be favored over non-Jews in a life threatening situation. It actually says the exact opposite.

Basic logic here is a Jew can violate Shabbat to save another Jew so that he may observe other Shabbatot and commandments in the future. All life is precious to Jews and is often illustrated when Israel will be the first humanitarian response to a disaster scene even in enemy countries.
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GeraldtheGnome: When it comes to the Bible the earliest stories that are still around of the Bible are naturally the closest stories to what the original stories of the Bible were about. When it comes to every other religious story of every religion apart from Christianity, including Judaism, then if the original stories aren’t around any more then the earliest stories that are still available are what everyone of that particular religion and denomination should base their belief system on if they wish to continue to be of that particular religion and denomination. What is the earliest known name of the god of Judaism ? Whatever it is that is the name that Muslims and Christians should use as a name just as those of every religion that came from those religions.

So are even some Jews that are Jews in the religious sense guilty of going against the earliest known words of the Talmud ? I’m trying to work out what you mean about people lying about the Talmud.
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DontNeedChrist:

The Talmud is one of the most maligned of all religious works on the internet. Site after site misquotes it and spreads vulgar lies about what it says and what it means. A simple Google search will be ample to see that.

To answer your question about Jews "going against" the Talmud, that's an ill-conceived question because the Talmud is predominately commentaries, discussions and debates about both the oral and written Torahs, Jewish law, etc. Many of the rabbis, scholars, and sages that contribute to the Talmud more often than not disagree with each other on varying topics. It's not a book of laws that one can go against.

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GeraldtheGnome
GeraldtheGnome: Give me examples and explain to me fully what the Talmud is supposed to be about.
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DontNeedChrist:

The Talmud is too vast a work of writings to explain "fully" what it's about. Especially in an internet forum. I recommend you go through all the bogus claims I've posted in this thread and then do some of your own research. Not trying to bail out of your request, it's just not a feasible request.

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